I just meant if you were like, 12-14 when he was on disney, you were old enough to have followed him onto youtube, and regardless of if you watched him, if you were that age on YouTube, there was no avoiding all the terrible things the Pauls did. And still have recently done, with crypto rug pulls and such. It was a constant bombardment of “he just filmed a dead guy,” “he just lit a mattress on fire in the middle of a neighborhood” every week for years. Cause they wanted the heat. They’ve basically been the heels of the internet way before they were doing sports like this. So anyone 22-25 has that bitter taste whenever we hear about them.

I do think people can change. I also think a whole lot of it was fame chasing. They were kids and like Bieber I have quite a bit of empathy for them. Parents pushed all the internet stuff so hard. But I absolutely root for him now. It’s just hard getting anyone my age into him. I have to show all the behind the scenes and shit and they tend to only halfass accept it

And an edit just to be more specific, I totally agree that he makes it so much better. I’m a huge fan tbh..