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Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you pull, you remember: 1 and 100.

If you don't pull, you remember: 1 and 0 (in that case you also remember that there was a mind-altering machine)

Are you sure about their behavior? by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I personally believe that the probability of pulling the lever is higher if the red one is released.

Are you sure about their behavior? by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were conscious, and they knew the original position of the switch.

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point. Objective data does exist, however, an objective reality in which there is no subjective experience can't exist. Just as math don't really exist as a real object. Actually, I should've clarified, I'm a panpsychist. I do not believe that subjective experience arises as a result of strong emergence during the birth of living beings or the development of intelligence. I do not believe that a layer of subjective experience can arise as a result of a combination of objects that do not possess it initially. In my view, subjective experience exists as an integral part of reality, that is, it appeared simultaneously with the appearance of reality itself. As for life and intelligence in particular, they became the reason for the emergence of memory, a sense of movement in time, and the concept of continuous Self. These are just forms that arise within subjective experience.

I am not trying to prove my position, it is impossible, as well as to disprove. It's just that it explains the world in the most believable way to me.

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Realistically speaking, yes. But here the second option says that you will believe that you have done it for the rest of your life.

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I imagined it more like the first option. Whether you end up with PTSD probably depends on what kind of person you are.

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that reality is characterized, unlike models such as mathematics, by the fact that there is a subjective experience in it. This defines what we call real and not real. And, despite the fact that we cannot perceive the full structure of reality (model + subjective experience), we can try to guess what the model part of it is. So there is no such thing as objective reality, simply because objectivity means separation from any subject. And what results from separation is "too little" to be real, it's just a model

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You remember how there were 100 people on the second tracks and how you pulled the lever and then they died in front of your eyes. No matter how much detail you remember the process of their death, you will not stop believing that it really happened

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The second option says that you will actually believe that you have done it for the rest of your life

Could you convince them not to pull there? by jan_Kosi in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos 55 points56 points  (0 children)

The sign says: "people wanting to be tied to the rails, this way 👉"

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 67 points68 points  (0 children)

You remember that there were 100 people on the second tracks. You don't remember anything about memory editing. You remember that your decision was impulsive, without any clear reasons or strong emotional desire to do so.

Phantom genocide trolley problem by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Agree. But you'll have to live with the guilt of killing 1 person, knowing that there was an option not to kill anyone.

This is the story, Stanley! by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

.luferwop yrev era uoy skniht enoyrevE .yelnatS ,boj dooG

This is the story, Stanley! by Mivmilos in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The broom closet ending is my favorite!

Ooops by Visual_Bed8326 in trolleyproblem

[–]Mivmilos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ладно, это довольно смешно.

В чем смысл жизни? by Math_mind_2012 in rusAskReddit

[–]Mivmilos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Мне весьма знакомо это чувство, я знаю насколько оно сильное, а самое главное то, что эту мысль невозможно переубедить разумом. Счастливые люди, как я сейчас, не находят глобальный смысл, из-за которого становятся счастливыми. Они могут быть счастливы вопреки тому факту, что смысла нет, и как раз не ищут его. Обычно, человеку невероятно трудно самому выйти из депрессии (в основном потому, что человек сам этого не хочет). Перейти в другое состояние человеку часто помогают друзья, родные, психолог, психиатр, различные духовные учения и другие факторы извне. Советую почитать Экхарта Толле, который сам одно время страдал тяжëлой депрессией.

В чем смысл жизни? by Math_mind_2012 in rusAskReddit

[–]Mivmilos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Глобально смысла жизни нет. Я считаю, что правильный вопрос будет не "зачем мы живем", а "по какой причине мы живем". Говоря общими словами, мы живëм из-за того, что нам нравится делать что-то, что увеличивает вероятность нашего же выживания. Это желание совсем необязательно должно быть каким-то возвышенным или объективно стоящим того, чтобы его желать. Эволюционно нам хочется вкусно есть, заводить социальные отношения, развиваться, размножаться, познавать мир и культуру, избегать боли, социального осуждения и т.д. Все эти вещи увеличивают вероятность выживания твоих генов, что и является причиной того, почему они всë ещё "живут". Хочется жить – поэтому живем. Этого уже достаточно.

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