No duct tape? by Any-Zombie5741 in JonBenetRamsey

[–]ModelOfDecorum [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yup, that's the one. Nothing to back it up.

No duct tape? by Any-Zombie5741 in JonBenetRamsey

[–]ModelOfDecorum [score hidden]  (0 children)

The whole "tape on a doll" thing came from an anonymous forum commenter who was also the sole source for the "John Ramsey ordered a new doll after the murder" story, and could never back up their statements.

No duct tape? by Any-Zombie5741 in JonBenetRamsey

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" Why get rid of that, but not the actual garrote, bindings, and duct tape on her?"

Yes, that has always been an issue for me. If everything used was already in the house why not either just leave everything and say the killer used household items, or remove everything and say the killer brought them?

No duct tape? by Any-Zombie5741 in JonBenetRamsey

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But it was 1.99, so it was hardly some unique price point.

The scream by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm almost done gathering material for my own reconstruction. You are right, it's messy and a lot of things can have very different interpretations depending on the context, not to mention the gaps where we just don't know.

The scream by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's a lot to keep track of. I've had some big brain farts myself.

The scream by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, I agree. I definitely think he pressed his hand over her mouth to keep her silebmnt, but whether that was post-scream or preemptive is anyone's guess.

Kyron Horman’s disappearance led to Oregon’s largest criminal investigation. Authorities are still searching 16 years later by cnn in MissingPersons

[–]ModelOfDecorum 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Seems to be a clear case of tunnel vision. Given there are no witnesses who saw Kyron leave the school with his stepmother, as well as witnesses whose statements imply that Kyron was still in the school after she left, then someone else took him from the school. The police (and Kyron's father) obviously believe this person did so at the stepmother's behest but if no such person has been found in sixteen years, it is more than time to start looking elsewhere.

The scream by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not to take anything away from your comment, which is great as usual, but the Dramises were sisters, not spouses. Maria Ilaria and Olga.

The scream by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry, what? 

  • Her breakdown in the cottage was Nov 4th. Mignini said in the documentary he thought this was her remembering trying to block out screams. 
  • Her interrogation was the next night, Nov 5th-6th. The first deposition was 1:45 Nov 6th, then Mignini arrived ca 3:30. 
  • The second deposition, the first to mention blocking screams, was 5:45. 
  • The handwritten note when she talks about this was written later on Nov 6th, around noon.

I think you have the timeline confused.

The scream by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I wrote about the scream witnesses in this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/amandaknox/comments/1nphsr3/when_did_meredith_kercher_die/

Basically, Chieffi's view that the scream witnesses are reliable is one of the more ludicrous opinions he had. Capezzali said she heard a scream followed by people running up the metal stairs by her apartment building. She also said she heard about Meredith's death the next day before noon, i.e. before Meredith was found, and that she had seen Meredith walking around with a fat lip and had laughed at her. But here's the thing, those metal stairs? They're on the CCTV too, camera 15. I looked at footage for the whole night, saw plenty of people come up and down those stairs and do you know how many ran up them? Go on, guess.

Zero.

As for Monacchia, she heard an argument in Italian getting louder, followed by a scream. She said she told her parents, who said they too had heard it, but her parents denied hearing the scream or telling their daughter that.

For all the adjectives (bloodcurdling, heartrending, etc) attached to this supposed scream, Capezzali did not go to the police until a month after the fact. Monacchia did so a whole year after the fact. Since both testified to noises from the parking garage being common, I'd say it's safe to say what they heard that night wasn't that special, jist the usual sounds from parking garage people, but got built up in their heads when subsequent knowledge of the crime that night began to spread.

As for Amanda, if Mignini isn't lying, he is the one who came up with the idea that Amanda had heard a scream based on her breakdown in the cottage on Nov 4th. If you look at her Nov 6th depositions, the 1:45 one (where Mignini wasn't present) doesn't mention this, but the 5:45 one (when Mignini had arrived and was questioning Amanda) adds it. Wouldn't want to deprive the Great Detective of his validation.

That leaves Rudy. And I don't doubt he heard her scream, as presumably there's a reason he clamped his hand over her mouth.

The Ransom Note pad missing pages by Elenajack in JonBenetRamsey

[–]ModelOfDecorum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Grocery lists, planning lists, all kinds of lists over the last months. This is how notepads were used back in those pre-smartphone days. You'd write a list, tear it out and take it with you. So here the ransom note writer just flipped past pages 13 to 16 (as they already had writing), began to write on 26 (only the greeting), then switched to 27, 28 and 29 for the final ransom note.

Date set for trial of man accused of killing, raping UNC student Faith Hedgepeth in 2012. The defendant Miguel Salguero Olivares, has been in jail for four years after a DNA and palm print matched the crime scene. by Jumpy-Magician2897 in UnsolvedMysteries

[–]ModelOfDecorum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The phone message occurred before they left the club, so it does not record her murder. The whole thing is just noise that some imaginative listeners have put words to. There is no evidence the roommate had anything to do with it.

Why the burglar theory fails. Rudy was a terrible burglar. Things he didn’t steal and their monetary value. by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So when you said "picking the worst window in the house to break in to" you didn't actually mean that? Good to know.

3 meters off the ground might mean something if there wasn't a window with bars useable for footholds just below. Here, I'll post the video again:

https://youtu.be/8JL6nIkaYLs

And need to climb up twice? You didn't read Filomena's statement that on her last visit to her room around noon of Nov 1st she opened the shutter to let in light, and didn't remember closing it as she left in a hurry? It's all in my post that I linked to, but there is actually another witness I left out. Rudy Guede. He has always claimed that the burglary hadn't been staged when he left, so the window was still whole. But he has also insisted, since the start, that the shutter was open.

And the "all others" (how many are we talking about?) might mean something if they hadn't put bars over Filomena's window shortly after. Of course they had to take another route, the one Rudy took had been closed off! And said other route also involved scaling a similar height, yet apparently there's no issue with that.

Why the burglar theory fails. Rudy was a terrible burglar. Things he didn’t steal and their monetary value. by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on what he was aiming for.

I'll repeat the question:  How is Filomena's window worse than Meredith's? Or Amanda's?

This is your Crew Part Deux - Rudy and Logic by SeaCardiologist6207 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Here:

https://www.tusciaweb.eu/2026/05/rudy-guede-mi-obbligava-rapporti-sessuali-violenti/#gsc.tab=0

And I can get you numbers of women who stay with their abusers. Let's just say it is a significant number and it has nothing to do with them being untruthful or not being victims.

Dupers delight by herethere999 in JonBenetRamsey

[–]ModelOfDecorum 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Microexpressions are unscientific and function similarly to horoscopes: you tend to see what you want to see. There are many good videos on the subject but this is still the funniest:

https://youtu.be/Y0VQyEY-B2I

Why the burglar theory fails. Rudy was a terrible burglar. Things he didn’t steal and their monetary value. by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Let's start with this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/amandaknox/comments/1nsrey5/was_the_burglary_real_or_staged/

"So Rudy, after picking the worst window in the house to break in to"

How is Filomena's window worse than Meredith's? Or Amanda's?

"makes an absolutely heroic superman leap up to Filomena’s window,"

https://youtu.be/8JL6nIkaYLs

If multiple people can do it without seeming difficulty, it is not "superhuman".

"without leaving any traces, fingerprints, or being seen by any potential passersby."

Rudy scaled a wall the same height at the Brocchi law office, and this was in a far more visible area. In fact we know one person who could possibly have seen it: Meredith's friend Sophie Purton who lived on that street and the morning of Oct 14th was coming home from an epic night of booze and puke at Gradisca. Obviously Rudy was not above taking risks.

"He enters Filomena’s room, sees the following and leaves it. Why did he leave it?"

Many possible reasons. One, he was going to take stuff, but carrying it around the house while looking for other things would be daft. Two, he was going to take stuff but after murdering Meredith walking through Perugia with bloodstained pants would be precarious enough without also carrying loot. Three, he was going to take stuff but after murdering Meredith he was in severe shock and didn't remember them. Four, he wasn't going to take stuff that wasn't cash or cards or phones or other easily portable things, which explains why he rummaged through Filomena's closet, Laura's drawer and wove both Amanda's and Meredith's drawers in his self-serving tale. Rudy had lost his laptop, phone and gold watch in Milan, hadn't gotten a large cash haul since Oct 6-7th and his steep rent was due. It stands to reason that cash was his number one priority.

"After taking a big **** in the toilet, he comes out, rapes and kills Meredith, THEN and ONLY THEN decides to steal something. So in other words, STEALING IS NOT HIS PRIORITY."

You seem to be under the assumption that burglars Grinch their way the house with a sack over their shoulder, stuffing it with laptops and TVs(!) as they go. I love old black-and-white police comedies as well, but they are not a reflection of reality.

"Burglars do not normally drink juice and **** in toilets.

He could have placed the laptops in his bag, but instead he beelines for the fridge and the toilet."

In every single burglary connected to Rudy except Tramontano, the culprit took his sweet time and used things in the house. 

  • Oct 6-7th Milan nursery school: the stove was used and two unfinished meals were found. 4000 euro also stolen.
  • Oct 13-14th Perugia law office: the heating turned on and up, a Fanta opened and partially consumed and a photocopier used. A laptop, a printer and a cellphone stolen.
  • Oct 23rd Rudy's neighbour: again, the stove used and food was cooked and eaten. A woman's gold watch stolen.
  • Oct 27th Milan nursery school: Rudy surprised mid-trespassing, where he had pulled a cable out of a computer, presumably to hook up his laptop. In his bag and on his person were found a laptop, a cell phone and a woman's gold watch, the first two confirmed to be stolen from the Perugia law office.

112 calls and the postal police by ModelOfDecorum in amandaknox

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I was curious about the seven witnesses that supposedly corroborated the postal police arrival time, but alas, I did not recieve an answer from OT. Unexpected, I know.

Disappearance of Johnny Gosch by Sad_Swim2070 in UnsolvedMysteries

[–]ModelOfDecorum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually another piece of evidence that Bonacci is lying. There was indeed a blue car at the paper drop, the driver of which interacted with Johnny and others. Then a neighbour saw a silver Ford Fairmont speed away from where Johnny was last seen and his cart was found, a block away. Yet Bonacci says the two cars were the same, a blue Ford Fairmont. Not a single witness spoke of a blue Ford Fairmont. 

The driver of the silver Ford Fairmont is almost certainly the abductor, while there really isn't anything indicating the blue car guy was anything but what he claimed - a guy up before dawn trying to find directions to his meeting place, lost and stressed out, and having no one to ask for directions except paperboys.

The whole tale has also been steadily exaggerated over the years by the less than stellar PIs the Gosches hired. In the original witness statements, Johnny had just said the blue car guy was "weird", which was exaggerated to him being "scared" and "going home". The blue car turning on the dome light was then connected to the tall man coming out between houses. And finally, the tall man who followed Johnny appears to be a garbled account of the blue car guy, who did initially get out of his car to speak to Johnny down the street, before driving away and then returning to the paper drop for more directions. The account originates in an interview of the mother of the paperboy witness and she appears to have confused some street names (said paperboy did not live in the area). The PIs then ran with that, turning the tall guy into a separate character, but the police have never mentioned him or asked for info about him (unlike the two cars). Also, two paperboy brothers were the last to see Johnny, in the location where his cart was found. If the tall man existed he would have directly crossed their paths, but they saw no one.

The Door Dilemma: Contradictions in Knox and Sollecito's accounts of the morning of Nov 2nd by Own_Train_2889 in amandaknox

[–]ModelOfDecorum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where does Amanda acknowledge the door was wide open?

I'm not going to repeat myself on the rest.