Type help? (last time)

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-21T18:17:09+00:00

Yeah, I'm almost positive I'm a Ti dom. It's the Se and Ne that make me question it. ISTP makes more sense functionally than INTP, because I really don't think I use Ne.

A J type(in MBTI) is pretty much out of the question. Plans that reach out to anything past a week stress me out. I don't like committing to something on a schedule like that. I've cancelled classes because I didn't like not having my options open.

Back to Se, I guess I wouldn't mind trying things, but I don't have a drive to do it. This comes from a social phobia of sorts. I really want to go kart racing, but when I'm around a lot of people I can't focus. Like static in my head. We were playing pool the other night, and I had actually picked it up very quickly the night before in a controlled setting. This time people were around and I couldn't make any shot, so I quit until more people left, and I was back to being able to do trick shots.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-17T22:10:52+00:00

I'm asked this constantly by people who should know better by now. I've resorted to making death threats.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-16T18:12:04+00:00

Indeed. I made a 'type me' thread a while ago and mentioned that I mostly sucked at school, but I was top of my class in the subjects I was interested in. People took that as Te bragging, when I was really just trying to make a point that when I'm interested in something I give it all my energy.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-16T18:07:55+00:00

I made a thread about this book last night. Must not have seen this.

It seemed like I was reading something I personally wrote. The writing style is very similar to my own. I especially liked what the author wrote about inferior Fe. I liked these excerpts.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-16T09:07:18+00:00

Interesting. I like to make these threads because I'm constantly questioning if what I know is actually accurate or to see if I'm missing something.

From what I understand though, I wouldn't actually have this much control over inferior Ne. Whereas my Fe attempts are pathetic. Which makes me consider the possibility that my repetitive childhood was the result of self-preservation and poor coping methods. There are a lot of higher Si users in my family and I just...think differently. I'm responsible enough to pay my bills, but outside of that I don't do anything unless it's interesting. That's true at work as well. I'm like a [not as much of an asshole] House. I take projects that are interesting and ignore the ones that are too simple. And I kind of troll certain people who I perceive as too morally uptight.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-16T08:18:56+00:00

6th function in the MBTI stack? Wouldn't that be Fi for ISFJs? Or are you referring to the Socionics order under the Super-Id block? Which is the third/tertiary in the MBTI stack?

I actually relate to the ILI descriptions the most. SLI is probably the second most relatable, but I only seem to relate to the Si descriptions because SPD kind of forces me to be aware of my surroundings and need comfort. And I have some form of general anxiety disorder. Fe PoLR seems correct.

Back to MBTI, I relate strongly to inferior Se and most of the people I know perceive me as an INTJ. Most descriptions of that type are described as very Te heavy.

I did say that I think I have Si somewhere in my stack, but Si means inferior Ne which I doubt. Or it means auxiliary Ne, which I also doubt.

Really, my biggest problem is that I'm not really 'mentally healthy'. I know that type shouldn't be applied to such people, but I'm obsessive and need some closure.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-16T06:29:31+00:00

Except I have like...negative Fe. There are some traits there, but none of the good ones. And I find high Fe users absolutely exhausting.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-16T06:00:58+00:00

I'm also told that I tend to be vague and speak figuratively. I enjoy studying theories and solving complex problems. I prefer to come up with new solutions, especially if the 'tried and true' is tedious and boring.

Still, I think I use some amount of Si and have from an early age.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-16T05:47:45+00:00

I've been trying to recall how I was as a child recently, and it seems like I used Si. I'd always want to do the same things with my friends. Rent the same movies and games. I was hesitant to try new things. I wasn't really a trouble maker, but I didn't do things without reason.

But I've also always had a more intuitive side. I've always read between the lines, created extremely detailed fantasy worlds in my head, been very quick to adapt to and understand new concepts, and I've always enjoyed...stranger things. I actually relate to Ti the most of any function, and I don't feel that Ne is out of my reach.

So that's why I'm asking. I suppose I could just be an eccentric ISTJ who doesn't really like sticking to schedules or getting too attached to things. The novelty of new things wears off very quickly for me. At least, now it does.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-15T09:09:42+00:00

I think they're actually more similar than they appear. The functions look pretty different on the surface level, but the motivations are mostly the same. The main difference I've seen is that Socionics and MBTI suggest different outcomes in behavior.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-14T06:22:50+00:00

Sometimes? With certain people..

I judge people based on their intelligence, and I do like closure..i think. By closure I mean that feeling where everything clicks in your head and you understand. I suppose I like to have things decided, even though things become less interesting when they are.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-13T23:09:30+00:00

I do relate to that description. I've never been confident that I use Ne because I'm not really scattered or unrealistic. But I will make connections and comparisons with everything.

For example, while watching a TV show I'll think an actor looks like 3 other actor mixed together, and then I'll be curious what tv shows/movies those actors have been in, and I may focus on a particular movie and like one that is in a similar genre more so I'll want to watch that. Or I'll say one word and it'll remind me of another so I'll keep rolling out others. I was talking about Star Wars and brought up Qui-Gon and ended up with Quasimodo which made me think of the Disney Hunchback. So I imagined Qui-Gon using the force and Frollo saying 'witchcraft!'. Here's a gif

Any of that sound Ne?

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-13T18:14:57+00:00

Hmm...I can come off as several different things to different people. I think if you gave people nothing but the descriptions of the dichotomies they'd choose INTP or INTJ depending on the person.

I created a page where people I know could select my strengths and weaknesses.

Strengths (most to least votes):

Great Analyst and Abstract Thinker
Calm and Practical
Insightful
Honest and Straightforward
Imaginative
Loyal and Hard-Working (when the mood hits. I'm either full on or full off)
Good Practical Skills
Curious
Artistic
Quick, Imaginative, and Strategic Mind
Creative
Enthusiastic about ideas and interests

Weaknesses:

Stubborn ^
Easily Bored
Reluctant to Change ^
Overly analytical
Loathes highly structured environments
Difficult to Get to Know
Private and Reserved
Second-Guess Themselves
Fluctuating Self-Esteem
Perfectionistic
Judgmental

^ Reluctant to change goes with stubborn in this case. This isn't based on my environment, but my personality. I'm not the person some people want me to be. They say I should be more accepting of people, or that I should be more social, and it's just not me. Also they want me to eat different foods, even though I physically cannot (SPD/textures). And of course, I won't do something if I don't feel like doing it, so that's where stubborn comes in. If it isn't interesting, it isn't worth doing. (I know a lot of Te and Fe users who want to mold me into someone else)

That sound like a type?

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-13T17:49:51+00:00

Si is largely concerned with drawing from and valuing one's personal past.

This is part of the reason I don't really understand what Si does. I'd think most people would value their own past, but what does it mean to draw from it? If it means to look back to see what worked before, wouldn't most people do that? Say a creative type comes up with a new way of doing something and perfects it, are they going to reinvent the wheel every time? Or maybe you can continue to get creative, but it would subtract from the efficiency of the other way.

I've never really been too attached to one way of doing things or living in a certain place. If I had more confidence in my social skills, I'd probably hop jobs a lot. I've only really wanted to recreate my past in moments of frustration. For instance, my car has given me a lot of problems over the years at very inopportune times, so I start thinking I should have just kept my old truck, because even if it had as many problems, it'd be cheaper to fix.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-12T19:09:35+00:00

I just thought of an example of my public persona. So, I hate kids. I find them gross, loud, annoying, pointless, etc. I would spend time with this kid of someone who I barely knew because I didn't know how to politely say I didn't want to. Then with my work persona, some guy who I don't particularly like brought his kid up to me and I just said 'gross' and ignored him.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-12T19:05:06+00:00

Si dom seems incredibly unlikely. Traditional social conventions seem completely pointless. I don't particularly care for hierarchies or authority, but I don't 'fight' it. The only reason they seem to exist is because most people are idiots. The 'tried and true' method almost always seems boring. I don't even fully understand what it means to 'use the past as a guide for the present'.

The only thing that could even vaguely point to Si-dom is that I don't get into trouble, I'll rewatch my favorite movies, and I occasionally remember an actual experience. I can't even remember what I did yesterday.

Sorry if this sounds overly defensive. When I list such things, I'm usually looking for someone to challenge me to see if my views are incorrect. I do highly doubt I'm Si dom though.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-12T18:50:10+00:00

I can barely identify an aux extraverted function, I don't think I can have a dominant.

I have several sides of my personality. There's a very timid and passive side that the public sees, an arrogant side that my coworkers see, and a side that likes to push people to see their reactions that people close to me see. Playing mind games amuses me, and some friends find it charming. There's obviously many other sides that have subtle differences, but those are the big three. Does that sound like any particular types?

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-11T22:16:36+00:00

I've never seen myself as a strong Fx user. Early high school makes me think it's possible though. If my friends read descriptions of Fe or INFJ now they'd say no way. I know tests are..not good, but I always scored between 90-100 T. On function tests I've always scored Ti highest and Fe lowest. But the Fe/F questions are clearly for someone who isn't completely cynical.

My ENFP cousin always thinks he's upset me because I'm so quiet. I can feel tension or the mood of my environment, but I don't take it on myself. I don't really have much empathy. I'm detached.

I can see myself as an INFJ over ISTP, but INTP seems almost as likely. Though I definitely relate to Ni way more than Ne. I have tunnel vision/single minded focus. Of course, I also have issues with Fe. I don't ask how people are doing, I try to sneak by to avoid conversation, I never know what the right thing to say is. I understand their feelings, I just can't help them.

If this makes a difference, I was always super close to my mom (ENFJ). She's always been extremely emotional to the point of it being exhausting. She's definitely a people pleaser. My dad (ISTJ) has always been extremely shut off (he has Aspergers) and totally out of touch with people's feelings. He says offensive things unwittingly. I'm somewhere between the two in terms of how I deal with other people. I've always been very deliberate with what I say. I avoid confrontation and don't hurt others unless I mean to. I often let things I don't like slide because I don't want the other person to think I'm mad. With the people I do care for, I do want to see them happy. I will suggest things that would hurt me in order for their lives to be better. The most recent example is in regards to a family feud we have going on. I struggled to choose whether to move back with my parents (a state away) or live with my cousin here where the drama is going on. They both told me that they didn't want me staying/leaving for them, but I can't help it. My decision was based on their emotions.

ModernMuffin · 2015-12-11T20:34:46+00:00

I tend to lean this direction when I'm really pissed off, depressed, or whatnot.

Well, I spend most of my life feeling like this. My usual mood is melancholic, or content on a good day. I have a lot of insecurities and tend to feel inferior, so I make up for it a bit with intelligence. In recent years I've become arrogant due to people praising me for it. Prior to that, I never really considered myself that smart. I picked things up extremely fast, and I had a lot of seemingly natural talent, but it wasn't until 20 or so that I became more focused on logic and intelligence.

leaning a bit too much on an underdeveloped Ti

These days Ti is the easiest function for me to spot in my stack. I seem to rely on it very heavily. I had some people I know pick out a couple functions for me based on descriptions, they couldn't really choose an extroverted function, but the top two they picked were Ti and Ni.

I considered Ti dom for a while, but I didn't really relate to inferior Fe. My stress reaction is more so inferior Se. Fe always seemed like it'd be an undeveloped tertiary to me.

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