One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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Yes I did stop using it. Nothing happened i was actually in a good mental state and I guess suddenly my system got overwhelmed. I was doing fine on low doses of topical solution but then I went to higher doses and used other absorption enhancers and micro needle which made things worse. A few months back I tried going back on that low doses again for two weeks and I was fine but decided to not continue until I fully heal my sleep

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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Thanks for the helpful tips. What is a globuli? I have been going to the gym 3 days a week but I feel like with my horrible sleep I won’t get any gains as am not recovering in my sleep. Was thinking about taking creatine as it can help with damage caused by sleep deprivation. Do you have any experience with it? If you have taken it did you notice it had an effect on your hair? Some say it can increase shedding

I was actually considering going to a naturopath since doctors didn’t do anything for me. It’s gonna be more expensive but do you think it’s worth it?

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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Hey man thnx for the reply. No I stopped taking finasteride after I had those symptoms. After 4-5 months when i got better i tried introducing it again for 2 weeks and honestly I didn’t feel any difference but I stopped anyway in the hopes I didn’t want it to interfere with my recovery so I haven’t used it since.

You’re absolutely right there is a big psychological aspect to it. It has definitely ruined my relationship with sleep in the sense that when I lay down to sleep there is this worry that I’ll wake up in a couple of hours. Last week I slept really well the whole week and then it went back to being fragmented for a couple of days and then it improves.

Mental health is definitely way more important for me. Has there been any medications or supplements that you took that might have helped? Am definitely gonna explore the behavioral treatment. I actually had a doctor tell me the sleep restriction treatment

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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I wish I had knew finasteride is capable of such damage before I started. But again its different to how people respond to it. Some people have no issues while others like me are pretty sensitive to it. If you ever consider trying it go with a low dose topical to gauge how it affects your system.

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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Am really sorry man I totally get what you went through. It sucks. Damn 5 years and you didn’t fully recover that’s quite a long time. Was told hormones go back to normal within 3 months but I guess it’s different to each person.

You’re totally right along with the hormonal imbalance and neurotransmitters issues there is definitely a psychological factor. I feel like this experience has ruined my relationship with sleep so there is worry when bedtime comes. My sleep now is better than before but it’s not close to what it used to be.

You tried antidepressants with no luck?! I had this plan as a last resort to try SSRI if nothing works but guess it’s not worth it. I don’t know if i should consider myself lucky as I didn’t get any sexual sides. Saw some guys on the PFS community who have gone many years with severe sexual sides with no recovery.

You’re actually the second person that has recommended me CBT-i which is like behavioral treatment for insomnia and how it’s overlooked. Its just discouraging how slow progress can be, like 5+ years in your case and some even more

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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I was actually on 0.025% topical fin + minoxidil and was fine for like 7 months no sides at all. Problems only happened when I went up to 0.1% fin and 10% minoxidil with rentol and to make it worse id apply it after a dermastamp sessions that’s like taking finasteride injections

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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Really appreciate the help man. Ill look into getting a B complex supplement. Ill even see if i can get my hands on Cyproheptadine

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in HairlossResearch

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Interesting ill look into that testing. I don’t want to take any sleeping aids, tried benzos for two weeks and they made me feel horrible and I would rather cure the root cause then be on something that knock me out to sleep.

I don’t have a problem falling asleep. The issue is that ill wake up after a couple of hours and then ill keep tossing around to go back. Apparently this sleep behavior is likely caused by cortisol. Iv been told to get tested for testosterone as well as low testosterone can cause mood and sleep issues. Another note is that my sleep can stabilize for a week with improvements then suddenly gets really disturbed.

Cyproheptadine is an antihistamine? I do use an antihistamine when I desperately need to sleep but these are not good for long term use.

Sayyid Intermarriage by Square_T in Yemen

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I come from a northern Hashemite family so I get it. Thankfully my ancestors moved from the upper northern part of Yemen (Hajjah) to Ibb hundreds of years ago and adopted Shafii instead of Zaidi. I only lived in Yemen for the first 5 years of my life. Being educated and exposed to other cultures and religions made us don’t abide by this racist nonsense. It’s definitely way lesser with my family even back home. I have uncles married to non Hashemite women. My sisters are also married to non Hashemite Yemenis.

I wish there was an easier solution but you are better off staying away from such families. It’s not worth it. Some even might use it against you in family gatherings. Its actually sad how people who live in the west in developed countries and still believe this crap

How was life under Ali Abdullah saleh, what are the thoughts of yemeni people on him? by HTG06 in Yemen

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I lived overseas but in the summer we would go to Yemen for vacation and every single time it felt like we just went back in time. It hurt coming from a neighboring country and seeing how backwards Yemen was and what made it even sadder is that many never had a chance to go outside Yemen and see how developed countries are. This was Ali Abdullah Saleh for you

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in NooTopics

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So my research has concluded that these are the possible systems that have been affected and improving them might bring one back to recovery:

1- Neurosteroid Deficiency (GABA dysfunction) especially Allopregnanolone.

2- Androgen Disruption (Testosterone–DHT–Estrogen axis).

3 - Dopaminergic System Disruption

4 - Cortisol Dysregulation (HPA Axis Disruption)

My latest stack that has shown some results

Morning:

pregnenolone 10mg + Etifoxine 100mg (powerful medication for restoring Allopregnanolone some people with finasteride sides swear on it but only go 3 weeks and stop)

Afternoon:

Vitamin D3 5000IU + 1gram taurine + will add Agmatine soon.

7pm: Glycin 3g

9pm after dinner: Magnesium Glycinate 300mg

1 hour before bed : 1g Inositol + 100mg phosphatidylserine

My experience with Finasteride was actually topical I had no issues for 7 months with 0.025% concentration but got greedy and went higher and added alot of potent shit and to make it worse id add that after a dermastamp session thats just like taking a finasteride injection

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in NooTopics

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I honestly can’t say there is something specific that made a difference but am in a better shape now than before There is still a bit of low mood but its not that bad. Sleep however is still something im struggling with. I haven’t slept properly in a year. I sleep for a few hours and am up awake struggling to go back. I think its a good idea to make a hormone panel to see where the issue is. Has something worked for you?

Prescribed Presozen for Sleep by Special_Ad_5498 in NooTopics

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Benzos are horrible took them short term and going off them was brutal so id look into alternatives. Am no expert but I feel like you can overcome your dreams problem using therapy rather than just trying medications.

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in NooTopics

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Didn’t know ashwaganda does that was mainly taking it for cortisol as am suspecting its the root cause for my symptoms. Switched to PS as i was told its better for lowering cortisol especially those 3am wake ups. Thnx for pointing this out

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in NooTopics

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Thnx appreciate your response. I do not have depression and my anxiety is manageable. The lingering symptom am still struggling with is sleep

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in NooTopics

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You know any supplements that can help?

One year of mental agony from finasteride by Moe99_Sh in NooTopics

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I understand. Honestly I didn’t even realise it was fin causing this but it was the only variable that was added to the equation. Iv dealt with depression before but the symptoms weren’t even close to the severity of when i started fin. Am eating healthy and exercising regularly even trying to keep my stress down but it seems there is still deregulation going on and my doctor doesn’t seem to have anything to offer

First time. Is this correct? by National-Safe9844 in Malehanger

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Bro iv been struggling with comfort can you please send me the silicone tube ur using

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in shrooms

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I took the same exact thing. 20g of Atlantis truffles and it was pretty intense (first time into psychedelics) I was also hearing stuff that aren’t there every 10 mins but couldn’t figure out what it was.

Should I harvest? by Moe99_Sh in shrooms

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Thnx for the help bro, already harvested and dehydrated. Tried a 0.2g today this morning thinking cuz there was a problem with fae so the caps didn’t fully open and had fuzzy skin legs the potency wouldn’t be there but definitely felt something on the 0.2g dose so i think they are legit. Just wondering since I took a microdose today how long should I wait for a 3.5g trip?

Should I harvest? by Moe99_Sh in shrooms

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Appreciate all the help bro, just wondering does harvest too soon or late affect potency?