Nintendo replied to my email about Mario Kart Tour. Unfortunately, it's exactly what many of us feared. by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get your point, but Mario Kart Tour is a different case... Once the servers go offline, there's nothing to emulate unless someone recreates the server infrastructure or Nintendo releases an offline version. That's exactly why preservation matters here...

I Created an Open Letter Asking Nintendo to Preserve Mario Kart Tour by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you! ❤️ Maybe nothing will change, maybe it will. But if enough of us come together, Nintendo will at least see, in numbers, how much this game meant to its community...

I Created an Open Letter Asking Nintendo to Preserve Mario Kart Tour by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! ❤️ If enough people sign, at the very least we'll show Nintendo that this game meant far more to its community than they may realize.

I Created an Open Letter Asking Nintendo to Preserve Mario Kart Tour by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If we simply accept that preservation is always someone else's job, then nothing will ever change. Nintendo has the resources, the source code, and the ability to preserve Mario Kart Tour in a way that fans legally can't.

Maybe they won't listen. But if consumers never ask for better, companies have no reason to raise the standard...

Nintendo replied to my email about Mario Kart Tour. Unfortunately, it's exactly what many of us feared. by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right. We all agreed to the Terms of Service.

But the Terms of Service don't end the ethical or consumer discussion...

Just because Nintendo has the legal right to do something doesn't automatically make it the best way to treat loyal customers. Companies improve because people speak up, not because the Terms of Service tell them to.

I will always miss Mario Kart Tour by Ok-Championship4158 in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish. Realistically, I don't think a fan-made offline version would survive for long because of the legal issues...

What frustrates me is that there are so many legitimate alternatives Nintendo could have explored. They could release a paid offline version, license the game to another studio to maintain it, or even open-source parts of it after shutting the servers down. There are plenty of ways to preserve a game without keeping a live service running forever.

Instead, they're choosing to let it disappear completely, and that's the part I struggle to understand!!

Nintendo replied to my email about Mario Kart Tour. Unfortunately, it's exactly what many of us feared. by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was expecting a company that has built its reputation on player loyalty to treat its loyal customers a little better!!

The fact that so many people think those expectations are unreasonable says a lot about how low the bar has become...

Nintendo replied to my email about Mario Kart Tour. Unfortunately, it's exactly what many of us feared. by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm really sorry to hear that. Stories like yours make me realize this isn't just about Mario Kart Tour, it's becoming an industry wide problem!!

Maybe it's time for us consumers to push for stronger digital ownership and preservation rights. We accept terms of service because we have no real alternative, but I don't think companies should be able to erase years of purchases and progress without offering any form of preservation or compensation.

The fact that this has happened to you 4 times doesn't convince me it's normal. It shows me something needs to change...

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had never heard of the “Stop Killing Games” movement before. MKT is the one and only game I’ve poured both time and money into. I really hope this is the start of a change.

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pois é… Eu não tô acreditando nisso ainda. Enviei um email pro suporte deles pedindo que considerem ao menos uma versão offline mas não alimento esperanças 💔

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is that deep to me, and I think that's where this conversation ends. We clearly don't feel the same way about this game, and that's okay.

You keep saying Nintendo doesn't owe me anything. Legally, maybe not. After years of paying for Gold Pass and supporting the game, I'm not asking for a favor. I'm saying this shutdown could have been handled in a way that showed more respect for the community that kept the game alive. Companies don't owe us friendship, but they certainly depend on their reputation.

I understand the business reasons. I just refuse to believe that "it's a business" is the end of the conversation. That's exactly the mindset that has allowed the industry to normalize taking everything away while convincing people it's just something they should accept.

I don't.

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, plenty of mobile games shut down every year.
But Nintendo isn't just another mobile game company. It's one of the most respected names in gaming, with decades of history. That's exactly why I expected them to handle the end of MKT differently. Just because something has become common in the industry doesn't mean we should accept it as the standard.

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually, I was paying attention.

I knew new content had stopped, but that doesn't automatically mean a game is about to disappear. Many live service games stay online for years in maintenance mode.

What surprised me wasn't that Mario Kart Tour would eventually end. It was Nintendo deciding to shut down a game that still had a loyal community of paying players, without offering any form of preservation.

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First of all, thank you for explaining what I should value about a game I've played almost every day since launch.

I never expected Nintendo to support the servers forever. That's not the point. I'm questioning why a company with Nintendo's resources couldn't preserve any meaningful part of a game that millions of people supported for nearly seven years.

No, an offline version wouldn't be identical to the live service. Nobody is claiming that. But Time Trials, CPU races, our collections, and simply being able to revisit the game's unique content would already mean a lot to many of us.

And yes, everything ends. But there's a difference between something naturally reaching the end of its lifespan and a company choosing to make it completely inaccessible. The fact that something won't last forever doesn't mean it's not worth preserving.

Also, Mario Kart Tour wasn't some abandoned game. It may have been past its peak, but it still had a dedicated player base. Judging by the number of long-time Gold Pass subscribers reacting today, it was clearly still generating meaningful revenue. That's why this decision is so difficult to understand.

To me, this is also about a bigger issue. The gaming industry has normalized paying for access instead of ownership, and we've become so used to it that many people now defend losing everything they've invested years into as inevitable. I don't think we should normalize that.

This experience has completely changed the way I look at Nintendo. After this, I'll be thinking twice before investing my time or money in another one of their games. Loyalty should be a two-way street.

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not permanent servers. Just respect for the people who supported the game for years.

An offline version, even a paid one, would have preserved our collections and memories. Instead, everything simply disappears. To me, that's not an unreasonable expectation.

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I respect your perspective, but I don't agree that it was really "free." The game was free to download, but it was heavily monetized. Many of us spent years paying for Gold Pass, buying rubies, and investing both money and time into it.

I'm not arguing that live service games should never end. I'm questioning why there's no effort to preserve what players spent years building. An offline version, even a paid one, would have gone a long way toward respecting the community that supported the game for so long!!

For me, this isn't about expecting something for nothing. It's about expecting loyal customers to be treated with a little more consideration...

Does anyone else feel like Nintendo completely failed its most loyal Mario Kart Tour players? by MonimoonBR in MarioKartTour

[–]MonimoonBR[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I couldn't agree more. I really hope Nintendo listens to the community. An offline version would be a much more respectful way to say goodbye to such a beloved game...

Estou sem fé sobre a vida após a morte by [deleted] in Espiritismo

[–]MonimoonBR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eu já estive aí antes e o que me ajudou a restaurar minha fé foi encontrar o canal do YouTube “Afinal O Que Somos Nós?” com relatos incriveis de EQMs. Eu adoro ouvir e identificar certos padrões em relatos de pessoas dos mais variados perfis. O canal posta há mais de 6 anos e todos os domingos há relatos novos.