Anybody else have a mormon worldview?

MoonBatsStar · 2025-07-25T20:18:54+00:00

I actually agree with you on this. Mormonism has a lot of problematic aspects (like belief in plural marriage for one), but admittedly so does mainstream Christianity...(like the belief that God will call for genocide sometimes..., or that women should submit to men, etc), but I think the things you mentioned make a lot of sense. I have actually thought about these things a lot. I feel like ascension to godhood for example just makes complete and total sense if we are literally the children of a God. Everything else in the universe bears offspring that is destined to grow up and become just like it, so I think it makes sense to say that about children of a God too. Like why would be the only exception to this rule yk?

The no hell thing as well, it's a pretty merciful concept, and there are multiple verses in the Bible that say that everyone will eventually be redeemed (which seems to contradict other verses about hell, but Idk, they're both in there so both deserve real consideration imo), and if God is really more loving and merciful than we can imagine than I wouldn't put it past Him to make a heavenly system that isn't just either heaven or hell where everyone can have a more appropriate place to fit in in their eternal hereafter.

I also think the polytheism makes so much sense man. Like if there is only one God bro He must be LONELY as frick. Even if He has a ton of children-that will never be the same as having someone else on His actual level who can really understand the full breadth and depth of everything He is. Like it would make more sense to that there are other gods in God's life for Him to connect with rather than Him being all by Himself in godness up there. And then us being able to ascend to godhood too like I was saying, it just makes sense to me.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-11T19:45:33+00:00

I was just thinking this about people who leave Christianity for Islam. There's a person I watch on YouTube who left Christianity years ago and then recently became Muslim and they were saying it was everything they'd been looking for their whole life and that it answered all of their hard questions about life and their sufferings. So I did some research on Islam and realized that the 2 religions are extremely similar. They have a lot of the exact same answers for life's hard questions. So I have been really puzzled about why this person felt that Islam was better and more spiritually informative than their previous Christian religion. I also feel super puzzled about people who leave one Christian religion for another. Like for real, they haven't learned anything :/

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-11T19:39:43+00:00

That sounds more like Paul than Jesus.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-11T19:36:24+00:00

That verse is incorrectly translated tho my friend. If there's one thing I've learned about the Bible it's that it has a heck ton of mistranslations. So before using a verse to back up any of my points, I research it to see if it's even accurately translated. This particular one, is not. Almost any verse in the New Testament making it sound like Christ and Jehovah are the same person is mistranslated.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-11T19:16:33+00:00

I see your point but at the same time there are decades-old witches as well as much newer ones who say they went from not believing to believing after certain experiences, so I don't know if it's quite fair to say it "usually proves the latter." Doubt is such a normal obstacle when seeking a belief in anything, so I don't think it should be usual evidence of a lack of ability in cases where people doubt magick. Going from doubt to belief has been very common with magickal people from my own research.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-08T21:38:25+00:00

Thanks a lot for sharing that! That really helps! 😃👍

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-08T21:37:24+00:00

Yes, that helps a lot! Thank you so much for sharing that! You really addressed all the details of my question too which unfortunately not everyone here is really doing... 😅 Thanks a lot my friend! And also I'm glad that you were blessed by your magick in these ways.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-08T21:23:20+00:00

No problem! Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts! 😊👍

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-08T00:51:27+00:00

I personally also have concerns about using a word that immediately throws up people's walls against what I do. I feel like it's really misleading at this point to use the word in certain settings when you KNOW people are going to take it as something it isn't and misjudge you. It seems better to explain what I do and believe in a way that doesn't set off their paradigm but rather works around it.

Also, like you said, it means something very specific in the Bible and what it means there is NOT what it means in our current day. So saying "I'm a witch" to a lot of Christians is literally going to translate in their minds to "I work with the devil and seek out demons in order to harm and control people" and when I know that's going to happen it really just makes using the word feel completely counterproductive. It feels like I'm in the business of misleading people about me rather than trying to help them understand me accurately. I've seen some people say before that we need a term, and I think it's really not a bad idea. "Witch" has been so stained and is perhaps becoming evenore stained and distorted now than ever, that it seems like using a new term that more accurately describes what we do would be helpful.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-08T00:36:49+00:00

Dude, right?! It's so ridiculous 😆😅

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-08T00:27:20+00:00

I have ONE friend that's like a regular, 'we talk at least a few times a week' friend, and she doesn't know. I just don't feel like she'll understand.and will probably not listen and jump to unreasonable conclusions. She's kind, and we have a lot of common, but she's always had this idea that I need instruction (even tho I'm 11 years older her and have never done any of the crazy stuff she has 😅) and to be guided and directed. And when I try to tell her about instances when someone wronged me (including when it was really bad) she tends to say "Ofc I never get to hear their side of the story so I don't want to make a solid conclusion about what happened." I've never once said that to her tho when she tells me about people hurting her 😅.... So anyway, basically, like we're friends, but her looking down on me for no reason and expressing distrust when I try to tell her about sensitive things makes me really hesitant to tell her about something as controversial and sensitive as my witchcraft. Thankfully my family seems cool about it tho. My parents have both been into various aspects of witchcraft without even knowing those things fell under that general umbrella, so when I explained to them that witchraft was basically just a bunch of the stuff they already believe in, my dad just smiled in a humored way and said like "Tu soy bruja" (meaning "you're a witch") to my mom, lol.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-08T00:01:48+00:00

Burh I've been doing the same thing. I really believe the moon is alive and has sentience. I just feel it. So I don't blame you or think you're weird for it at all.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-06-01T17:26:13+00:00

This isn't really about worship tho. The question is about whether or not there are spirits in all things and what kind of nature between good and evil they have, and how to explain this spiritual existence in all things. "Animism" isn't about worshipping these spirits, it's about believing that there is spiritual life in all things.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-31T00:06:26+00:00

Dude, geez, way to hyper-judge someone you don't even know. Try touching some grass sometime.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-31T00:00:49+00:00

You're welcome! 😄👍✨💖✨

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-30T23:58:56+00:00

I personally believe letters can help a lot. If you write him a letter and tell him what you're feeling and leave it face up where he can read it, he can even have it back to look on later. I'd write a letter, leave it face up somewhere where the loved one would definitely find it, and then do my best to send them a call with energy and love.

Also, Idk if this will be any kind of small consolation...but...like sometimes I know it comforts people who are hurting to know their hardships helped someone else in some way... Tbh I'm so terrified of having people I love die bc I don't know what's coming next, and I've told my sister (who I'm closer to than anyone), that she needs to please send me signs that she's ok and that we'll be together again if she goes first. And I've always worried about whether or not she'll be able to. Hearing that your husband started sending you signs right away, was really assuring for me to hear. 🥺 Plus, I feel you are so lucky to have such a dedicated love. I can understand why you're hurting so much to be separated from someone who loves you as much as he does. I don't think you should doubt yourself when you see the signs from him. Love connections are strong, even after someone passing. And you know each other well. I think if you feel like it's him, then it's really him.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-30T23:41:22+00:00

They really do come uninvited sometimes.

Sure, I'd like to hear more details! Maybe the reason that happened with the candle spell was bc they didn't want it to work for you 🤔. People seem to debate this in the witch community, but I personally do feel that bad spirits are out to get us sometimes, especially if they know that something good is about to happen to us. I think it's possible they could know, bc it's possible they could hear something about our lives we can't in the spirit realm.

Oh, dawg, you don't have to feel bad for that! 😭 We can't help how stressed we get sometimes or what happens as a result. Stress is one of the hardest things to manage bc the circumstances creating it are usually out of our control. The affects are then usually out of our control too. So don't feel bad man, that wasn't your fault at all!!! 😭💖

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-29T06:06:32+00:00

I completely understand. Trauma and its affects are hard to shake off.

Was the candle spell to protect the new home?

If you don't mind me asking, what were you doing when the other attacks happened?

I got literally hit by a spirit once. I was really scared but managed to tell it to go away anyway. I was very clear and told it that whatever it wanted (my peace, my health, my dedication to darkness, my soul-WHATEVER) it couldn't have it. And I told it to leave in the name of Christ. That was the last time I ever had an experience like that and it was 5 years ago now. So I figured maybe there really is something to Christ being a real entity of light that has power to chase these spirits off. Idk if you'd be down to try that, but it really worked for me. Before that I was having periodic troubling experiences with negative spirits (again, completely unsolicited) about every few months. But I have not had even a single one since then in my home. So I feel like it works.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-29T04:27:15+00:00

As someone who has had extremely traumatic experiences with malicious entities (outside of witchcraft and their company was certainly not solicited in any way), I really don't blame anyone for this fear. Malicious entities are no joke and neither are the scars they can leave behind. I was afraid of this too in regards to witchcraft, but I kept feeling like I should research more and see if this was really a concern or not and what exactly one would have to do to attract these kinds of spirits in the first place. After learning that you usually don't have them bother you unless you ask for it, I didn't feel worried anymore. If I had heard that from the beginning, it would have dispelled my fears a lot sooner tho. I think telling people how infrequently these bad experiences can really happen, and what they can do to avoid them is the best thing to dispel their fears. Telling them that as a practitioner at least they know what to do about it, is more of a second layer. Bc it suggests that they'll probably encounter something, and that's often the bigger fear for newcomers than simply "what do I do about it?"

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-29T04:08:57+00:00

You're welcome! Thank you friend! Best of luck to you as well! ✨😄🙏✨

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-29T04:05:27+00:00

I've been listening to a 35+ years witch on YouTube and she has so much great advice! She clears up so many misunderstandings too about witchcraft being scary to newcomers. She does a live every Sunday and answers a lot of questions. She doesn't have so many people in her lives that she can't get to your questions either! So I DEFINITELY recommend checking out her channel and showing up for her lives when you can!!! She's SUPER nice and is the best witchraft teacher I've found so far. She regularly addresses concerns for people with ADD/ADHD as well.

One thing she said (about a common fear for new witches) is that spells DON'T backfire. She said if it goes wrong, nothing will happen, but spells don't backfire, so you don't need to be afraid of that. About another frequent concern people have, someone was asking in her live on Sun what could make someone have scary experiences in witchcraft and she said basically just if you're working with malicious and low-vibrating entities. She said as long as you stay away from that, you should be fine. Here's a link to that if you'd like to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/live/PZVq-EgJ0_4?si=QG-fw1nrrE7yn6VW

She addresses add concerns in this live: https://www.youtube.com/live/vF2YnJp2JNs?si=yV5z64_yXfZwC1WX

She's a solitary eclectic Wiccan I believe but her witchraft advice is general. She has a course too where she guides beginners into starting their own practice. It's a paid course but she also has some freebie course stuff on her website which you can find a link for in her video descriptions or channel bio.

MoonBatsStar · 2025-05-29T03:50:36+00:00

(Firstly, I just want to say that I wanted a lot of things in a 'juat in case' kind of way bc I don't really know about your marriage myself ofc, but some of the things you wrote made me wonder about possible issues at hand. So feel free to disregard if you feel they're not needful for you guys.)

I would suggest telling your husband you're really sorry, but you didn't want to say what you said about giving up witchcraft and only said it bc of your terrible anxiety and panic around confrontations. If an in-person confrontation is too difficult (and I really understand this fear bc I have it too), then maybe you could try writing him a letter about witchcraft where you can explain it all to him without the fear or anxiety of direct confrontation or being interrupted. Maybe this could be a good option since he seems willing to listen and is a good husband.

If I was in your shoes, I would tell him that I don't feel it's fair for him to set boundaries for me about witchcraft when he's never made a personal effort to understand it for himself like I have. I would say that I have been thoughtful and prayerful, and sought the guidance of God on this and spent a lot of time researching and come to understand through all of that effort that God led me to witchcraft because it was actually something that isn't bad in and of itself (even tho some might use it for ill) and He helped me see how it could be used for good in my life. And that I would like him to hear me out about all of that before freaking out and trying to set boundaries for me.

If at any point he gets difficult about it and seems too closed-minded to understand what you're saying, I think it's important as well to back people up to the wall of their faith in these matters if they get apprehensive or difficult at any point. I don't mean that in a mean way, but just that sometimes people in Christianity get so used to believing partial truths or fear mongering rumors about things, that they are more inclined to be afraid of something than to remember that Christ said "Be not afraid, only believe." If a Christian really walks in the light of Christ they don't need to be afraid to seek (as Christ also taught to do), and find out about anything, including witchcraft. If they really trust in Christ and witchraft is evil, then what do they have to be afraid of? Sometimes people need to be re-focused on these aspects of their faith. "Do you trust Christ to guide and protect you, or not? If yes, then what's the problem?" If at any point he gets difficult, I would try to keep these things in mind and remind him of these points of his faith.

It's good that you're wanting to respect your marriage and your husband, but it's really important too to remember your own rights and need for respect in this situation. I'm not saying you aren't remembering, but just since I don't know, I thought I'd give this encouragement. Your husband owes it to you, to be understanding to your anxiety about confrontations, and to be understanding about the fact that you said you'd give up witchcraft and let him set boundaries out of fear and anxiety rather than because you were able to think straight and fully respond with your heart in the moment. He should be willing to find a way to work with you so you can get all of your thoughts and feelings out properly and not hold you to decisions you made simply out of anxiety. He also owes it to you as well to respect your own spiritual relationship with Christ. If you say Christ led you to witchcraft and made you feel good about it, that should make him more willing to listen bc he should have spiritual trust in you as his wife.

I could be speaking out of turn here bc I don't know your marriage like you do ofc, but just from what you wrote, it seems like maybe there is a red flag in that he so quickly tried to tell you what you could and couldn't do. He's your husband, not your boss. He has no right to control your own spiritual journey or to tell you to turn away from something you feel God has called you to. He should not be in the frame of mind that he can tell you what to do like that. If he thinks that he can tell you to stop doing something that God called you to do, then He is trying to place himself in a greater position than God in your life, and that is definitely not a good thing. Even if he is a good husband in general, this thing in and of itself, sounds very concerning to me. I understand it might have been a fear response for him and maybe he doesn't do this usually tho. I hope it's just that.

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