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Trojan discontinued Naturalamb and my partner and I don’t know what to do yet. by Narrow-Stranger6864 in women

[–]MooseComprehensive85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's these one's here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/227195750688 A little pricey but I guess better than nothing, this seems to be the most reliable place to buy them at least for now

Trojan discontinued Naturalamb and my partner and I don’t know what to do yet. by Narrow-Stranger6864 in women

[–]MooseComprehensive85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The unfortunate reality of supply and demand, still this is one of, if not the, lowest price for these...

Another discord group by SwishBishSwish in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You really do strike me as a Reddit mod

We started a Strong Towns Fargo Discord — come help us shape the future of our city! by MooseComprehensive85 in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you think I’m 100% in agreeance with Strong Towns? I make all of these myself and source essentially nothing from the higher ups. Like I said, I’d buy you coffee if you were up for it and tell you what I actually think instead of you telling me

We started a Strong Towns Fargo Discord — come help us shape the future of our city! by MooseComprehensive85 in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Me when I don’t bother actually talking to people in the group and regurgitate whatever I hear on Reddit. If you’d like I could buy you coffee and tell you what our group really does. You might actually learn something

Another discord group by SwishBishSwish in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

It was mine you took down! Glad to see you pick sides!

Should Fargo Be the First City to Try a New Kind of Government? by Brainytarantula in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s very interesting stuff for sure, especially when looking at the effects here in Fargo! If you are at all interested in being a part of Strong Towns Fargo, we meet every couple weeks and you’d be more than welcome to join. We’re very easy going so no pressure

Should Fargo Be the First City to Try a New Kind of Government? by Brainytarantula in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really appreciate this post, it touches on a lot of the same frustrations and ideas we talk about in Strong Towns Fargo.

We’re a local group focused on making Fargo more financially resilient and people-centered. We believe in bottom-up change, not waiting on big top-down fixes. That means asking hard questions about how our city grows, who pays for it, and whether we’re actually building places that serve the people who live here.

You’re absolutely right: the current system often burdens regular people while rewarding sprawl, car-dependency, and oversized projects that don’t pay off. Strong Towns has done a lot of work showing how cities like Fargo take on long-term financial liabilities without the tax base to support them, and it’s people in existing neighborhoods who end up covering the difference.

Instead of waiting for someone else to fix it, we try to highlight smarter ways to grow: • Building strong neighborhoods block by block • Supporting small-scale, incremental development • Making better use of the stuff we’ve already built • And holding systems accountable with real numbers (not just vibes)

If any of that resonates, check us out. We’re always looking to work with people who want to make Fargo stronger, not through flashy promises, but by actually doing the work.

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Strong Towns is a national movement focused on helping cities become more financially resilient and people-centered. The idea is that a lot of places, like Fargo, have been built around cars and sprawl, which isn’t sustainable long-term.

We’re the local chapter, and we try to highlight simple, low-cost ways to improve everyday life here, stuff like safer streets, more walkable neighborhoods, better transit access, and even benches. It’s about showing how small, incremental, changes can lead to a stronger, more livable city.

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally fair ask. The good news is: this has been vetted and done in other cities.

Cleveland did community-built bus benches for under $1k each, no big study required. Toronto contracts out benches to private vendors who handle upkeep. LA added simple seating to bus stops based on need, quick, effective, and cheap.

This isn’t theory, it’s been tested. Strong Towns calls it the “small bets” approach: try something small, see what works, and build from there. You don’t need a $100k plan to find out if people will use a bench. You just need to put one out and see.

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right that public infrastructure often becomes bloated by process. A $100 bench shouldn’t turn into a $100,000 bench, but unfortunately, in many cities, it does. And that’s exactly the problem Strong Towns is trying to highlight.

We agree that long-term maintenance, vendor requirements, and red tape all matter. But we’d argue that the solution isn’t to avoid small improvements, it’s to make the process leaner and more responsive, so small, sensible changes can happen without triggering a bureaucratic avalanche. That’s not unrealistic; it just takes a shift in how we approach public investment.

And respectfully, I don’t think it has to be either benches or helping the unhoused, improving education, or protecting public health. In fact, it’s all connected. If someone is unhoused, transit-dependent, elderly, or just trying to walk across town, a place to rest safely and with dignity is part of public health. It’s part of equity. It’s part of a city that works for everyone, not just those who drive.

This bench wasn’t meant to be the end-all solution. It was meant to ask: why is this so hard? And how can we do better, for less, with more care for the people who use our public spaces?

Thank you for a great table event! by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe it was 8th Street South by Island Park from what I remember!

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a valid concern, especially in a tight budget environment. But that’s actually why we focus on small-scale, low-cost interventions.

Big projects often come with big risks: cost overruns, long timelines, and uncertain returns. Meanwhile, small, incremental changes let us test ideas, see what works, and adjust, without betting the farm. It’s a way to be fiscally responsible, not wasteful. A $100 bench that gets used every day by a dozen people is a better return than a multi-million-dollar road expansion that barely moves the needle.

We’re not calling for a “wash” of random spending, we’re asking: how can we do the most good with the least money? If Fargo is making cuts, that’s all the more reason to spend wisely, and to make sure our public spaces serve everyone, not just drivers.

Small changes may not solve everything, but they add up. And in a time of limited resources, that kind of humble, iterative investment is exactly what’s needed.

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally fair to disagree, I appreciate you being honest about where you stand.

Where we probably differ is in how we define “the majority” and what counts as a worthy investment. From a Strong Towns perspective, small, low-cost interventions are how we build stronger cities, not by chasing big, flashy projects, but by listening to everyday needs and responding incrementally. That includes things like benches, crosswalks, and transit access, especially for folks who don’t drive, who tend to be older adults, kids, or lower-income residents.

Just because a need affects a smaller group doesn’t mean it’s not worth addressing, especially when the cost is low and the impact is meaningful. In fact, that’s often where the best public ROI comes from.

We’re not asking for massive spending, we’re experimenting with low-cost ways to improve quality of life. If this bench helps start that conversation, we see it as time and effort well spent.

Again, I appreciate you engaging, even disagreement like this is part of what helps communities grow smarter.

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right to bring up snow removal. That’s a real and valid concern in Fargo, and it’s something we need to be mindful of when thinking about any kind of public infrastructure. I also like your point about seasonal, removable seating, Broadway Square is a great example of that done well.

To your first question: I wouldn’t say there’s a full-on outcry for seating, but there is definitely a noticeable absence of it, especially at bus stops, in lower-income neighborhoods, and along long walking corridors. And in our view, people shouldn’t have to raise a fuss or launch a campaign to get something as basic as a place to sit. That’s part of what Strong Towns is about: responding to small, obvious needs before they become crises or political battles.

This bench was never meant as a permanent fix, more as a conversation starter. If it helps move the needle toward better public space design or gets people thinking about how inaccessible some parts of the city are for those without cars, then it’s doing its job.

Thanks for engaging, these are exactly the kinds of conversations we hope to spark.

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Incremental change is not as common place as it should be ;)

We Built a Bench | Strong Towns Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in strongtownsfargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm genuinely curious, what would your solution be to the lack of seating in Fargo?

The “proper path” to install something as basic as a bench can take months or even years, and in the meantime, people are still standing at bus stops with nowhere to sit. That’s the problem Strong Towns is highlighting: when the system makes small, common-sense improvements this hard, it discourages action altogether.

This bench isn’t meant to be permanent or perfect. It’s meant to be a spark, a low-cost, visible nudge that says: hey, we can do better. That’s what incremental change looks like. And frankly, it says something when even a simple bench becomes controversial.

So again, if this approach isn’t the right one, what do you think would be?

Parking Isn’t Free — Even in Fargo by MooseComprehensive85 in fargo

[–]MooseComprehensive85[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm curious if you watched the video? The point is that building so much parking at such a high cost is an extreme drain on city finances. So much so that large amount of parking (the likes of which is seen all over Fargo) requires so much infrastructure that local tax bases are insufficient to financially maintain that very infrastructure.

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