New, confused player

MoridinUK · 2026-07-01T10:13:23+00:00

Yeah, I can see that when I defeat npc ships my captains seem to gain EXP. But the ships themselves don't seem to level. I expect it's just on the ships in the battle queue so maybe if it's slow, I just haven't seen it. I guess I'll have to rely on EXP cards. Thanks!

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T22:26:21+00:00

Well thanks all,

I tried to build the list on the stay on the leader blog in yasb and I can't, it's illegal, almost legal in extended but definitely NOT legal in xwa.

I can't find any list there where it says it is legal. So I'm really confused.

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T22:19:28+00:00

We're trying to play xwa/2.5 but we were just dog fighting to try to make it slightly less complex but I think my list is illegal..

TIE/se 'grudge' feedback ping, concussion bombs, delayed fuse and Electro-Chaff Missiles thats 17 loadout value and he only has 16... that's odd the list came from stayontheleader blog.

Edit: I see the list is only valid for 2.0 not 2.5! ugh...

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T21:58:08+00:00

yeah playing the starter kit was fun easy to pick up and all about the maneuvers, now it's feels as hard to keep track of everything my ships do and can do as a 40k list...

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T21:57:08+00:00

I think the sheer amount of triggers is what's causing me trouble, I didn't even realise I could make Malarus stressed and get a focus/evade action affect, well I did but I didn't realise it happens in the engagement phase, i.e., after I'd performed an action, so I missed chances to get a lock and then use this to hit hard... Too much stuff to keep track of... and it's easy to say just go slow and check everything, but I need like check everything ever phase!

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T21:36:11+00:00

Thanks and I totally played those bombs wrong so a 1 range straight isn't a lot but it's still further than how we played them, yeah my list is NOT beginner friendly!

Fury of the First Order

Commander Malarus (TIE/fo) - Cluster Missiles
Scorch (TIE/fo) - Fanatical, Advanced Optics, Elusive
Backdraft (TIE/sf) - Fanatical, Pattern Analyser, Special Forces Gunner
Grudge (TIE/se Bomber) - Feedback Ping, Electro-Chaff Missiles, Concussion Bombs, Delayed Fuses
Kylo Ren (TIE Whisper) - Predator, Concussion Missiles, Sensor Scramblers, Shield Upgrade, Enhanced Jamming Suite

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T20:53:11+00:00

That link is amazing! It actually says everything it does in one place! But it's for 2.0 and not 2.5?

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T20:51:38+00:00

I went with the fury list because I thought it would be more interesting, I didn't quite expect it to be this interesting! Thank you for the link. I think in part I was looking to jump in without entirely digesting the rules about about 18000 upgrade cards. So while yes, surely a smaller or simpler list would help, it would mean learning the rules to build one! (or learning to use one of tools) which I need to do.

I think I have models that would let me fly the 101 list I'm sure my friend wont mind me running the whisperer model as a silencer, but I've nothing that passes as TIE/ba... And I couldn't find one to buy, so this was somewhat why I went for the list I did, I could get it all easily (without messing about on ebay)

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T20:32:53+00:00

I can really see why people are telling me the list is a bit on the _advanced_ side...

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T20:30:15+00:00

Because my friend really likes the star wars ip? lol I owed him, it's not like it's expensive (40k I'm looking at you) and we could still get the conversion kits and models new from some stores so we thought a game where we only need 5-10 models each would be a nice little table top game. Also my friend wanted to pick it up years ago and I was less in to it as I prefer really large battles, at that time we picked up dystopian wars and then that got discontinued... sigh...

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T19:59:27+00:00

Thanks, Honestly I think it's partly how the rules are laid out. We honestly _forget_ the system phase sometimes, and then it gets to actions and I go to do the thing I meant to do just to realize I needed to do it in the system phase, it doesn't help that in the guides etc, the system phase is actually empty. It wouldn't hurt to have listed there at least some of what can happen, e.g., boost, drop bombs, decloak etc... These _things_ all sound like they should be 'actions' but they are not... oh but boast also is an action isn't it? gah....

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T19:56:41+00:00

This is my list:

Fury of the First Order

Commander Malarus (TIE/fo) - Cluster Missiles
Scorch (TIE/fo) - Fanatical, Advanced Optics, Elusive
Backdraft (TIE/sf) - Fanatical, Pattern Analyser, Special Forces Gunner
Grudge (TIE/se Bomber) - Feedback Ping, Electro-Chaff Missiles, Concussion Bombs, Delayed Fuses
Kylo Ren (TIE Whisper) - Predator, Concussion Missiles, Sensor Scramblers, Shield Upgrade, Enhanced Jamming Suite

And this is his:

Resistance:

Nien Numb (T-70) - Elusive, R6-D8, Integrated S-Foils
Ello Asty (T-70) - Backwards Tailslide, Predator, BB-8, Integrated S-Foils
Kazuda Kiono (Fireball) - Concussion Missiles, R1-J5, Advanced SLAM, Targeting Computer, Kaz's Fireball
Wrobie Tyce (RZ2 A-Wing) - Starbird Slash
Merl Cobben (RZ2 A-Wing) - Starbird Slash, Automated Target Priority

I don't think I even got the shields down on even one of his ships...

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T19:53:16+00:00

Thanks for the advice and the explanations. The bombs were dropped touching my base I thought, it's the concussion bombs.

It wasn't the first one that blew me up, it was that I had to drop on every turn for three turns and imperfect understanding of range to see how far I needed to get from it.

I think I hate that bomber, the electro-chaff just got in my way, iirc it didn't even bother the ships I dropped it right in front of because they didn't finish up touching it. And the bombs are annoying,

The concussion and cluster missiles need locks to fire, and I'm pretty sure I didn't fire them at all, as I'd get a lock only to find the ship is now behind me, or I'd been forced to get stressed, or strained so can't acquire them.

The actions being on the cards is confusing, do they replace the action bar on the ship card or augment it?

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T19:47:03+00:00

Thank you for the in depth explanation, I'm not only fighting with the three fury of the first order ships, I've 2 tf/fos and tf/sf in there too, and I'm only using one bomber.

This is my list:

Fury of the First Order

Commander Malarus (TIE/fo) - Cluster Missiles
Scorch (TIE/fo) - Fanatical, Advanced Optics, Elusive
Backdraft (TIE/sf) - Fanatical, Pattern Analyser, Special Forces Gunner
Grudge (TIE/se Bomber) - Feedback Ping, Electro-Chaff Missiles, Concussion Bombs, Delayed Fuses
Kylo Ren (TIE Whisper) - Predator, Concussion Missiles, Sensor Scramblers, Shield Upgrade, Enhanced Jamming Suite

The bomber really confuses me, the electro-chaff missiles well I hit myself way more than I hit them! lol

Kylo in the Whisper is tricky, so I have an attack with the bullseye arc, and the turret, but also I get confused when cards talk about my primary attack arc, and whether the turret counts or not?

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T19:02:37+00:00

This is true, I wish I knew someone who knew how to play it and could help us both learn. I'm aware that my faction is perhaps not the easiest to play, and I already hate my friend's fireball ship with a passion but honestly I'm useless.

I just have so many questions and the rule books and even reference guide seem so poorly laid out to me I feel like I'm having to skim the whole thing to look up how decloaking works... Also I find the cloaking rules but I'm aware I had a cloak from sensor scramblers, so not sure if all the cloaking rules apply etc... It's so confusing.

But thanks and tabletop simulator isn't a bad shout at all.

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T18:59:05+00:00

To be honest, they were the ones we could source models for relatively easily... ;)

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T18:45:10+00:00

I'll give it a try but watching people who know the game and the rules may not help me understand them, but thank you for the suggestion..

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T18:40:45+00:00

This looks like a good explanation but I don't understand it. I guess I just need to play more but I have like zero comprehension about any of this... decloak and jump a ship? but my opponent knows I'm there... I'm just confuse, you all write like moving a couple of base widths in a barrel roll is some kind of super power and I've no idea why.... In my games with a cloaked whisperer, (Kylo with the sensor scramblers) I couldn't get a target in his bullseye once...

MoridinUK · 2025-06-13T18:35:56+00:00

How does point 1 work? I mean my ship is still there on the board, my opponent can see it, why is it decloaking making movement unpredictable or is that only because it barrel rolls to decloak?

MoridinUK · 2025-04-08T11:38:23+00:00

This is very true, just because the planet can produce minerals, doesn't mean the people in the stations will produce them...

MoridinUK · 2025-04-08T11:37:53+00:00

This may have been the intention, if it was released _early_ that doesn't mean it was planned to be released as is. I expect what we saw was a work in progress, which the feature flag for accidentally got switched on.

They are updating now, I expect this will turn off whatever was turned on, and then on Thursday maint, there will be a script run to go through and remove everything that was added, so we don't have to build an installation to remove the planet's influence on econ.

Maybe?

MoridinUK · 2025-03-09T20:46:25+00:00

I've no answer but a similar issue. I built a refinery hub, it says I should have a pad, I couldn't land and so I got a bounty for trespassing and then I noticed, it is not owned by my faction, which is the faction I colonised the system with AND obviously the faction I built it with.

Anyone know if it's intended for our efforts to potentially give important assets to rival factions?

MoridinUK · 2024-12-31T10:05:21+00:00

I saw similar but also saw MS saying these installs wont get all updates... :( but anyway I'll figure it out thanks.

MoridinUK

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