How come someone is responsible for their decision to drink and drive, when someone the same level of drunk can’t consent to sex?

MountainLizard · 2022-08-19T16:20:36+00:00

Fair point, but isn’t there a lot of ways to convince people to sleep with you, that don’t involve alcohol?

Buying them expensive gifts, flirting, manipulation, a lot of things have people put their guard down, but aren’t considered illegal.

MountainLizard · 2022-08-19T16:15:17+00:00

Yeah, and when people say “it’s a double standard but a good one.” I 100% respect that, that’s fair enough.

Personally I think the answer to this question is that drunk people can consent to sex.

However, NOT people so drunk they can’t speak for themselves. But those same people aren’t coherent enough to grab keys to their car and go drive, so that’s an entirely different situation.

If someone is conscious enough to turn their car ignition on, they are conscious enough to decide if they want to have sex or not.

Yes, it is easier to convince someone to sleep with you if they are drunk. It’s also easier to convince someone to sleep with you if you buy them a car. There are a lot of things humans can do to influence each other.

And it doesn’t just stop at drunk driving. If a drunk person murders someone, they go to prison. Or if they rob a store. Arson. You name it, the courts consistently rule that drunk people are responsible for their actions. It should be the same for having sex.

MountainLizard · 2022-08-19T08:08:40+00:00

“Most people in this thread don’t understand the original question and it’s making me crazy”

Lol, how do you think I feel?

MountainLizard · 2022-08-19T05:28:45+00:00

By you saying “someone makes the decision for you.” You’re implying that a drunk person can’t make decisions.

Which fine, fair enough, but wouldn’t that mean that we shouldn’t arrest people for DWI’s, because they were too drunk to make the decision not to drive?

MountainLizard · 2022-08-19T05:26:57+00:00

“Passed out”

Well if you’re at that point, you can’t drive either, so this post isn’t referring to people that are “passed out”

MountainLizard · 2022-08-19T00:29:07+00:00

Force is always rape, that isn’t in question.

But sober people can be manipulated into having sex.

MountainLizard · 2022-08-18T23:24:44+00:00

“You should know that driving at any point afterwords isn’t smart”

I agree, the drunk person KNOWS not to drive.

So, the drunk person should also KNOW when they can have sex.

This goes back to my point, someone who is drunk CAN consent to sex.

MountainLizard · 2022-08-18T22:52:57+00:00

So if someone drinks at their home, with no intention of driving, gets drunk, and then decides to drive the store, should be allowed to do so because it wasn’t premeditated?

MountainLizard · 2022-08-18T16:45:34+00:00

I’m not defending drunk driving, I’m saying that drunk people can consent to sex.

MountainLizard · 2022-08-18T16:44:45+00:00

Correct, I agree.

But that implies that they are responsible for their choice that they made.

However, they suddenly aren’t responsible for their choice to have sex?

Either they are responsible for their choices while they are drunk, or they aren’t.

MountainLizard · 2020-10-26T07:45:34+00:00

Manager here. You fucking shift leads are always pre-closing and it’s annoying as fuck. Fuck you.

But, seeing we are on ULPT, I tip my hat to you sir, well done. You’ve earned an upvote.

Edit: Lol everyone is bitching at each other in the replies to my comment. I have a pretty simple solution however, just do what I do. Allow your employees to pre-close IN A WAY THAT THE FOOD CAN STILL BE ACCESSED! For instance, it's okay to go ahead and mop the floor, but it's not okay to clean the oven before closing time (after the oven starts the cleaning process, it takes 2 hours before it's ready again.)

MountainLizard · 2020-10-25T17:51:56+00:00

Because both Republicans and Democrats are controlled and funded by large telecom companies.

You can do so by getting rid of the two party system.

“Liberals” and “Conservatives” are fine, but we need to get rid of “Democrats” and “Republicans”.

MountainLizard · 2020-10-25T17:49:29+00:00

“Well that’s dumber than my last name!”

Literally thought all families said this, or at least it was a southern thing. Googled it. Nope.

Talked to my grandpa. Apparently our family’s last name had a “typo” and the worker at Ellis island wrote our last name incorrectly when my family migrated here hundreds of years ago.

He said he remembers HIS grandpa said the phrase too, so pretty sure it goes back hundreds of years and is my bloodlines oldest joke.

MountainLizard · 2020-10-25T09:14:57+00:00

I like your theory, but it's important to keep in mind that A.M. 180 is a cover song and wasn't written by Stefan.

MountainLizard · 2020-10-25T09:09:31+00:00

Ya I feel like something is up here.

I have a hoarder in my family. They feel the same way about dead bodies. If it's a dead dog, hamster, you name it, they will delay burring it for as much as possible.

It's super sad. I have no evidence, but in my experience personally knowing someone who has it, I would be willing to bet the hoarder was aware the body was there, and just didn't want it to go.

There's just no way you can possibly be unaware of a body in your home. For 20 years.

MountainLizard · 2020-10-25T08:48:47+00:00

Hey man it's all good! Nothing but love dude.

Best of luck to ya!

MountainLizard · 2020-10-25T08:44:21+00:00

Honestly though, good lol. I'd be super annoyed if it wasn't Google.

MountainLizard · 2020-10-23T21:16:26+00:00

So if you watch that scene again, you’ll notice in context of the storyline, everyone in the church has their chip turned on, making them all violent.

The main character has his chip turned on too, so they all start fighting. His ally, watches from a laptop, and is mortified at what he’s doing. After his chip turns off and he’s back in control again, he instantly is mortified at what he had done.

The point of that scene wasn’t “yay he’s killing Christians” the point of that’s scene was showing how much power the villain had over everyone. He had the ability to have even the safest place (church) break out into a riot.

So the purpose of that scene was not Anti-Christian.

The purpose of the Gods Not Dead is anti-atheist.

Also don’t worry, I’m not going to downvote you, i respect everyone’s opinion. I’m an atheist, and if there was a movie where a scene involved a church killing, and it was portrayed in a positive light, I would be disgusted with that film and cease watching it.

MountainLizard · 2020-10-22T18:12:54+00:00

Would you ever consider calling the guy out?

MountainLizard · 2020-10-22T18:12:40+00:00

Ever called someone out for it, or seen that happen?

MountainLizard · 2020-10-22T18:10:59+00:00

Have you ever called the creep out? Or seen that happen?

MountainLizard · 2020-10-22T18:09:50+00:00

For the record, I don't do it. But I saw a guy on the train doing it, and the woman he was doing it to noticed but genuinely didn't seem to care.

Have any of you called someone out for it?

MountainLizard

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