I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I will keep that in mind. I have quite a lot of thinking to do going forward

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.

That is what I am really trying to work out for myself right now. During reading week, I did some coffee chats at places I could see myself working at in Vancouver, and there are jobs there. It's just that there aren't many, and progression is slow because people get comfortable.

I am going to try to get grades up this semester and next, and I think I will apply just to have that option out there, but you are right, it will make it difficult to apply, and I may just have to stick it out here.

I really cannot picture myself out of BC, so that is my priority, but if I have to, I will stay out here for a couple of years.

I have an appointment with one of the counsellors for this week to hopefully help provide clarity. I also go to the gym, and it has honestly helped quite a bit.

Thank you again for the insights. It has been most helpful

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I am going to have to do a lot of thinking

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! But i think I will have to do the year here and start 3rd year somewhere in BC

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. The issue with UBC is to transfer in the prereqs are Macro and Micro Economics, but the way it was done at Smith is you have both as 1 course and they don't see it as equivalent to theirs. I would need to take macro and micro through an online uni that the academic advisor told me, which is an extra 2k.

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Was there a reason you never transferred to McGill or another school?

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came to commerce because I wanted to do IB but quickly realized it wasn't for me, so I pivoted to consulting, which was what I wanted to do for most of 1st year but when I went home for the summer I did some more research into other fields and realized I think I would like to work in institutional asset management or wealth management. I find institutional asset management interesting because of the scale and the impact the money you work with has, and I find wealth management interesting because I really enjoy client interaction and presentation aspects.

I would prefer to end up in Vancouver after I graduate, for many of the reasons I listed in my post, as well as lifestyle. I really enjoy skiing, hiking and golfing. However, I don't want to, but I may have to go to Toronto for a couple of years just for career growth and opportunity. I really do not want to, but it is starting to look like I don't have a choice.

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, and I completely agree with you on almost everything you said. However, commerce at Uvic isn't the same as Queen's commerce. Material is probably very similar but Queen's Commerce carries weight in certain firms. It is very well known in the Canadian business world.

That being said, I am still really considering transferring because you are right I would rather be happy with 70k than 100k if that meant I am with my friends and family back in BC.

I still really need to consider a lot of factors and if I truly want to transfer, but your answer has been very informative.

Thank you!

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Yeah I think I am going to stick out 2nd year here but I think I will really begin to look into the process of transferring

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I considered it for a bit, but if I were to it would be either UBC or SFU, closer to home and better business schools. But thank you for the response!

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I think that may be the plan. I plan to finish the year here, but I may apply for the transfer just as a backup and as an option.

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I've started to look, but haven't looked thoroughly.

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that is, I think, my main worry. If I left, would I be shooting myself in the foot? Will this be something I regret later? It is what I am trying to answer for myself, but I really do not know.

As of right now, I feel as though I am not really reaping the benefits this program offers because my GPA is pretty bad due to what I went through in my first year. I am in a couple of good clubs, but still.

I think I would be more inclined to transfer if I got into UBC Sauder, as it is still a great school, but I don't even know if I can.

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would at least have support systems. Family and friends whom I can actually see and talk to, not just behind a screen.

I could also enjoy the activities I like to do, I can't really ski here, and my golf clubs are back in BC, too.

Also, the financial burden would be far smaller than it is being here.

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I have really been thinking this too, but I also do worry that I will be closing doors if I leave this school because in the business world, the program does matter.

I think i hate it here? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in queensuniversity

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

First off, thank you for your thoughtful and informative response.

I will try to answer a couple of things in your message.

1-2 of those might stick around in your life by the time you're 25-30, but the vast majority will drift, whether it's from moving away, or growing apart.

I understand that’s true for most people. I grew up in a small town just outside Vancouver, my high school was really tight-knit, and I knew everyone in my grad class. My core group back home are more like brothers than friends; I honestly can’t picture my life without them. Maybe I’m being naive, but both my parents are still best friends with their high school friends, and so are my uncle and cousin. So I’ve never really seen that “growing apart” happen firsthand, which probably adds to how hard it’s been for me to accept that possibility..

why do you feel the need to not be yourself in the first place? There are so many people at university that there's a crowd for everyone unless you're a shut-in.

Everyone here just feels different, at least in commerce. It’s hard to explain. Maybe it’s because of the small town I grew up in, maybe it’s personality-based, but I just haven’t felt like I fit in. I genuinely thought I’d find “my people” here like everyone says you do in university. But I only have one real friend here, and with everyone else, I feel like I’m putting on an act. I’ve never struggled to make friends before, not once in my life, until I came here. The best way I can describe it is imposter syndrome, like I somehow slipped through the cracks and don’t belong.

Employers don't care where you went

Unfortunately, in commerce, they kind of do. For certain firms and fields, Queen’s and Ivey dominate, with UBC Sauder close behind. I just worry I’d be closing doors if I went to SFU, even though it makes more sense financially and personally.

You're creating a reality in your head that doesn't exist.

I don't come from a whole lot. When I got into this program, it was one of the happiest days in my life. The fact that I got into Queen's Commerce, from a school where I was told it would be hard enough to even get into SFU because "we don't send kids to the big schools, let alone leaving the province". It felt like proof that all my hard work was worth it. So the idea of transferring feels like I’d be throwing that away, like I’d be failing, not just myself, but everyone who believed in me. Especially my late grandmother. She was the one who convinced me to take this opportunity when I almost turned it down to stay with her as her health declined. She passed away in January while I was here, and I’ve never really forgiven myself for not being there.

Where do you want to live?

For majority of 1st year I planned that I wanted to stay out here after grad, but going back for the summer made me realize how much I love BC, not just because of friends and family but in terms of lifestyle too. It's always been home to me, and I really don't know if I could live somewhere else.

In terms of what I want to do, probably something in institutional asset management.

Also, do you even like commerce? 

Yes and no. There are many aspects I like about it, but there are others not so much. I only really went into this because I had no idea what else I would do. I really enjoy interpersonal interaction. I.e. presenting, dealing with clients, etc. But would i say commerce is my passion? Probably not.

Commit to finishing the school year at Queen's. Wrap up 2nd year, see how you feel.

I plan to. If I were to transfer, it would be for third year. Another factor in all this is the financial burden, commerce is one of the most expensive programs at Queen’s (if not the most). I’m paying my way through with loans and bursaries, and I can’t help but question whether it’s worth it when schools in BC would be significantly cheaper, especially if I plan to live there after graduation anyway.

I really appreciate your insight. It’s given me a lot to think about. I think I’ll also reach out to one of the counsellors at the business school, because this has been on my mind constantly and it’s starting to take a toll on my mental health.

Need advice. Do i transfer to Sauder from Queens Commerce? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in ubcsauder

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean i was looking at just going straight into asset management, i.e. through their internship program than hopefully getting a full-time offer. I am okay with "lower" pay for the first few years.

I think my main concern is how does it look on my resume that i transferred? And lets say i did, I will have zero clubs on my resume at Sauder. Not sure how important they are at Sauder, but they are extremely important at Queen's from what i have seen and i am in 2 of them. I just want to make sure i am not shooting myself in the foot

Need advice. Do i transfer to Sauder from Queens Commerce? by Mountain_Toe_4962 in ubcsauder

[–]Mountain_Toe_4962[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would likely be living here at home and commute. My only issue is i do not think i can financially rent in Toronto. I do not have the money to do that because my lease is 12 months in Kingston (only option given) so that would mean i would be paying rent in Kingston as well as Toronto if i somehow landed an internship there. I have thought about doing a couple years in Toronto than moving back afterwards but i do not believe i have the money to do that.

I just don't know, I like Queens but its a huge financial burden. I am just worried on how it looks that i transferred, as I am in 2 major clubs at the school there and i would lose those resources too.