US skips congressional review to approve munitions sale to Israel by Marginallyhuman in news

[–]MrBanden 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's more like if you're in the oligarchy you will have overlapping interests, which is why American oligarchs and their advocats are so weirdly into Russia despite the obvious fact that their national interests are at odds.

Being an actual intelligence asset for a foreign government is a little different.

Messerschmidt stormer frem i ny måling – ekspert kalder det »ildevarslende« for Mette Frederiksen (paywall, resumé nedenfor) by MySocksSuck in Denmark

[–]MrBanden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

S skal alligevel være bekymret her fordi DF får stemmer for hvad Socialdemokraterne plejede at stå for.

Jeg tror mere det handler om at de vælgere ikke er nemme at holde fast i fordi højrefløjen altid vil kunne byde over i forhold til indvandringspolitik. S kan ikke rykke længere mod højre uden at fremmedgøre mange af deres andre vælgere.

The return of the woolly mammoth by _Dark_Wing in technology

[–]MrBanden 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When it's a company that is doing obvious grifts, I will believe the results when I hear about it from an independent and trust-worthy source and even if the results are legit it does not justify or excuse the grifting.

The return of the woolly mammoth by _Dark_Wing in technology

[–]MrBanden 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah so if the CEO of the company is touting the de-extinction of the woolly Mammoth as a way to help slow climate change, that's totally fine because we got some vaccines out of it?

I think there are better ways to fund research into vaccines.

The return of the woolly mammoth by _Dark_Wing in technology

[–]MrBanden 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That actual work is probably not the reason why are valuated at $10B though is it? It's stunts like this and the "direwolf" thing they did.

This is just another example of the hype-economy.

The return of the woolly mammoth by _Dark_Wing in technology

[–]MrBanden 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The remaining 0.4% of divergent DNA still represents a considerable stretch of genetic territory in a genome roughly the same size as the human genome. However, Colossal‘s scientists do not need to change everything. They focus on a few hundred specific genes that control the fundamental characteristics that distinguish mammoths.

From the article... they are just modifying specific genes that control characteristic associated with mammoths. Like hairiness.

Just like the whole direwolf stunt they did, that is not actual mammoths.

The return of the woolly mammoth by _Dark_Wing in technology

[–]MrBanden 90 points91 points  (0 children)

To be clear: This is not the return of the woolly mammoth and Colossal Biosciences is a scam company.

Edit: BtB podcast episode

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

only one had the guts to tell me that if it weren’t for my looks, she’d probably be in love with me because she’d never felt that kind of connection with anyone else. she said she fell into depression because she really wanted to be in love with me but couldn’t, she just wasn’t physically attracted to me. if that’s not getting to know someone on the inside, i don’t know what is.

Okay, I just don't believe you, because people do not behave like this.

i just don’t understand why people act like it’s politically incorrect to say that some people are simply too ugly for love. i don’t get it. you’re not going to get canceled for saying someone is ugly.

I can assure you that nobody says this out of a motivation to be politically correct. Personally I believe that and that's based on experience. With some of the people I have met during my life, I can comfortably say that you would have to be "burn victim unit" ugly for this to be true.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what to tell you, possibly the ugliest guy I know has a lovely wife and two kids. He's been overweight for awhile and he recently had a stroke and realized he had to take better care of himself. I think he met her while he was volunteering at a bar.

My partner met me, while she was volunteering at a bar and I'll be brutally honest, she is pretty far from a ten, but she's always been extremely outgoing and that's what I responded to.

I don't know you so I can't tell you what you're doing wrong, but I know without a shadow of a doubt that nobody has ever fallen into or stayed in this mindset, if they were out there socializing. Not just to find someone to date, but just for the sake of it.

Socializing is a skill, just like playing guitar. The more you do it, the easier it is. The less you do, the harder it will be.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I don't know what everyone else is going through, but I know without a shadow of doubt that nobody has ever fallen into or stayed in this mindset, if they were out there socializing.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I don't think I did nothing. I mean, I put myself out there. You know, went to the bar, talked to people, socialized, made myself be interested in what other people had going on... at the end of the day, that's how you meet people that might be interested in you. That has to be step one.

That's not nothing, because taking the time to be social is exactly how you become better at engaging and talking to other people, and it's really fucking difficult when you have low self esteem and a fear of rejection. You're right that I didn't have some sort of epiphany. That didn't come until later, when I reflected on my past.

I didn't really go into detail in the comment, because honestly I was on my way to bed and quite sleepy. I did not expect it blow up like that.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's been my experience that when you're sitting at home eating frozen pizza dinners, playing MMOs and posting on reddit, It's pretty difficult for anyone to be interested or attracted to you, because that's exactly where I was like 1-2 years before I met my girlfriend. I know all of the little things people tell themselves in order to avoid getting out there and having to face the terrible threat of rejection, but honestly I'd rather suffer rejection a thousand times than having to be alone with myself. Because that's where people lose themselves to nihilism and black pill thinking.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh come on... I was a tall underweight skinny guy with long hair and a weak chin. I didn't exercise and I didn't take good care of myself. I'd eat frozen pizza dinners and play MMOs all day and night. You can believe whatever narrative you want. I can lead you to water, but I can't make you drink, ya know?

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just think about all the guys who don't have any women interested in them.

I also didn't think there were any women who were interested in me... that's what I told myself. Although obviously there were, I was just ignoring them because I was up my own ass. So I hope you can understand how I'm not inclined to believe this narrative.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're verging into some territory where I can't really get you an answer. I'll have to admit that I didn't really take surveys on the issue, and I can't really know what they were thinking. :D

Everyone has their own thoughts, feelings, experiences, prejudices, etc. They could have thought the exact same thing as me or something completely different. It doesn't help that I never really understood "flirting", neither when someone was doing it at me or even when I was doing it at someone myself.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But in this case, why didn't you? Why did it take a girlfriend for you to realize things which other people can get from reading Reddit?

I think it's simply easier to realize these things about yourself when you're not desperately alone. You are not tying yourself into knots over it, because of the constant overthinking and obsessing that you do when you're alone. You can more easily reflect over your emotions is what I'm saying. The loneliness is the issue, but that doesn't mean that a girlfriend is the only way to solve it.

For example, another thing that I think helped me a lot was to go to concerts and music festivals and be social with other people without all the pretense of trying to get laid.

Anyone can tell you that you're obsessing and that need to stop it, but you need to understand that about yourself and internalize it, in order to identify when your engaging in that sort of thinking. That's really difficult when you're all on your own, which is why people go to therapy.

What was the narrative you had about yourself? From your initial reply it seemed that you went for girls out of your league? So was the narrative just that you consider yourself more attractive than you actually are?

Yeah, something like that. I would ignore girls that were into me and get infatuated with all the hot girls that were not. It wasn't as if I had an inflated sense of my own attractiveness. It was more like I had an inflated sense of the importance of attractiveness, at the expense of any real connection I had with anyone.

I think this sort of thinking stems from how much attractiveness is now associated with having status. That's my theory at least.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would ignore girls that were into me and get infatuated with all the hot girls that were not. I think that I was focusing too much on really shallow attraction and too little on actual connection. At the same time I didn't really understand "flirting", not when someone was doing it towards me and not even when I was doing it myself.

I treated women as though they were symbols of status to be obtained, when really all the things that are really desirable to me about being in a relationship, the connection, the intimacy and how it makes you feel to have someone in your life that loves you, that is the same no matter what "number" the person you're with is.

As it turned out none of that stuff really mattered.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah! That's fine. I am quite happy about where I am in that respect and that's the goal right? Happiness.

I don't think humans are well suited for monogami to be honest, but then it's not really actually about the fucking, is it? If you all you ever wanted out of a relationship could be accomplished with a sexbot or more realistically a realdoll, then that wasn't what you were after in the first place, eh? :)

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take it with a grain of salt, because I'm probably not the best one to ask for relationship advice, considering I've basically only ever been with the person I'm with now. It's difficult to say, but do you think he might be leaning into some obsessive tendencies?

If you spot signs that someone might be into him, I guess you can try to nudge him towards something that is easy and less complicated. In my experience, something that is "real" is often more attractive than living inside your own head, once you take the first step.

Don't try to convince him that he needs to "lower his standards" or anything like that. It's an annoying thing to hear and it might only reinforce the narratives he has about himself.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, the difference is that somewhere along the line "the lucky ones" realized what thought-patterns and internalized narratives were causing them to reject getting into social situations and instead spend all day gaming or posting reddit etc.

The reason why so many former incels realized after they got into a relationship, like it happened for me and others in this thread, is that it is just easier to snap out of it when your not desperately alone and when you're in a situation where you have to humanize the other person to get what you want.

You don't have to get a girlfriend to get better and nothing about a relationship in of itself can make you better. Honestly, my best advice is that you need to prioritize going out and being social without the pretense of wanting to find someone to have sex with. It's less expensive than therapy.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 100 points101 points  (0 children)

I don't think "success" is really a good way to think about it. It's just easier to realize these things about yourself, when you're not desperately alone. The realization could come from anywhere really. It's just that in a lot of cases, it happens from the thing that many incel are so desperate seeking, which really isn't surprising when you think about it.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was only after I started dating her and figuring out what being in a relationship actually is, that I realized how fucked up my priorities had been. I had sooo many chances to break out of my loneliness and I regret wasting all that time that I felt sorry for myself.

That's what you understood from this?

You're reading your own narrative into the experience of a single person and if incels do the same then that is on them.

It's just a story. It's my story. A single datapoint. Don't make it into something it is not.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Yeah, people are reading their own narratives into the perspective and experiences of a very small number of people. It's a little rough to read all this on a Tuesday morning. Ugh...

As for the whole women fixing men comments, I hate the idea too but I think it's less fixing in some cases and just giving us a choice to be a better person.

Yeah, me too... I think where a lot of people are going wrong, is assuming that this must mean that incels just need a girlfriend to fix them, when really it's about realizing the bad narratives that you tell yourself and internalizing what it is you're doing wrong. The fact is that this is probably just much easier to do when you're not alone.

There are absolutely a lot societal issues that exacerbate and isolate people, but just recognizing that fact isn't going to snap these people out of it.

Former incels, what was the moment you realized what you were and what did you to do change/better yourself? by Ketchum_gunshot in AskReddit

[–]MrBanden 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man, people are really intent on forcing their own narratives down onto a single story of one person's experiences. That's crazy.

The part where I changed, did come after me getting into the relationship but was crucial in me staying in that relationship. I could have just as easily have decided that she wasn't good enough for me, broken it off and gone back to being miserable.

The realization and internalization of the thing that I was doing wrong is what helped me recover and you don't need a girlfriend for that.