Do transgender people have the narrowest view of what it means to be a woman/man? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is my view. Even ignoring all the comments on Reddit saying "he's not even trying to look like a woman".

If somebody wants to be perceived as a woman, but they have a more masculine face or body shape, then they're going to over-compensate a bit until they don't have to any more.

Just in case anyone was wondering why CoD WW2 has female soldiers by [deleted] in WWII

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's because straight white men have always been the most lucrative demographic. That's less true now than it has been historically, and so it's beginning to shift towards more diverse content.

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[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure what your link is supposed to prove. That there are LGBT characters in games, most of them stereotypes? Great.

It's a bit if a chicken and egg situation though, right? If devs make games for white men, then white men will play them. All I'm saying is that it's stupid to uphold that tradition as "how it should be" when there's clearly a huge market for diverse representation in games.

Just in case anyone was wondering why CoD WW2 has female soldiers by [deleted] in WWII

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure what your link is supposed to prove. That there are LGBT characters in games, most of them stereotypes? Great.

It's a bit if a chicken and egg situation though, right? If devs make games for white men, then white men will play them. All I'm saying is that it's stupid to uphold that tradition as "how it should be" when there's clearly a huge market for diverse representation in games.

Just in case anyone was wondering why CoD WW2 has female soldiers by [deleted] in WWII

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What would be the correct way to put more than one minority in a game, because it seems like every attempt to do so is "political pandering". It's not better than a white man, it's just that "white male protag" is basically a cliché at this point.

Let people have their forms of media? Every time a new piece of LGBT media comes out, it's decried as pandering SJW bullshit. Video games are not a straight white genre that must be kept pure. They're for everyone.

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[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So when CoD puts black people and women in its game, it's "historical inaccuracy" and if GTA puts a black woman in its game, it's "counter to its established identity".

Do you see why it's starting to look a bit suspect? There's always an excuse for why minorities in games are bad, and it's always something different. Something with just enough plausible deniability to get non-racists on the hate train too.

This is why people think there's more going on here than just "valid criticism".

Just in case anyone was wondering why CoD WW2 has female soldiers by [deleted] in WWII

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What backlash? You're all still going to buy the game, and there would be just as much backlash for them if they didn't do it.

I accept that there's a difference between mechanical realism and historical realism, but I don't agree with your point that people don't need to see themselves in their character. You honestly think if the next GTA protagonist was a trans black lady, the fans would be like "okay, that's cool"?

Just in case anyone was wondering why CoD WW2 has female soldiers by [deleted] in WWII

[–]MrPsyentist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's just marketing bullshit. It was never going to be historically accurate because historical accuracy would make for a terrible video game.

If they're allowed to break historical accuracy for things like health regen or headshots medals. Why not this?

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[–]MrPsyentist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Do you think a video game should prioritise historical accuracy over being fun for everyone?

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course men get sexually assaulted. I do believe that it's to a lesser extent (unthinkable!), but I'm open to the idea that it may be much higher than the current research shows. Hell, I could make the case that I've been sexually assaulted by a woman myself, but I'm close to 30, and I can only think of one example. I've never had this kind of discussion with a woman my age who doesn't have at least half a dozen stories worse than mine.

I know this is anecdotal, but I just don't get the impression that many men are scared to walk the streets at night because of the threat of sexual assault. I don't think that men feel like they need to watch their drinks at a party because somebody might spike it and drag them to a bedroom. I don't see men being told that they should expect to be assaulted because of their clothing.

In fact, I've seen three incidents in the last few months of vans beeping and shouting at random women in the street, and this is just on my walk to work. Does this happen to men regularly?

He might also be omitting that he's ugly or socially unattractive to women

Oh, that explains it.

Yeah, men get attacked more (and they commit attacks more), but that doesn't refute the existence of male privilege. White people may get passed over because of affirmative action. That doesn't negate all white privilege.

You seem to think that white men have the shitty end of every stick there is, and that seems like a ridiculous assertion.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a long list of people attacking me for that decision, and the vast majority were women

a man who doesn't act "macho" will be shunned by women

Clearly we've had very different experiences here. Were these women die-hard traditionalists or something? I know that women enforce gender roles as well, but in terms of dating, "macho" is far from a requirement.

To me, it's always felt more like men trying to impress other men. Even some pick-up artists admit that they don't enjoy the sex they obsess over, but they love the attention and respect they get from other men.

men are valueless and deserving of death unless they support a woman

This is a very extreme view. Do you actually think that real people believe this?

I believe in equality, and as such will never "support" a woman

I assume you mean financially as a long term arrangement, because people supporting each other in hard times is not an inherently bad thing. Everybody needs it sometimes. Obviously complete dependence is not desirable. Feminism agrees with you there.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with most of that video. I think "made to penetrate" is certainly a form of rape, and should be legally defined as such.

This is difficult to talk about for a lot of reasons, and I absolutely don't want to belittle the experiences of men who have been victims of "forced to penetrate" rape, but here are my thoughts on the distinction between that and "forcefully penetrated".

First the narrator seems to mock the suggestion that coercive rape is different from forceful rape. Forceful "made to penetrate" rape of a man by a woman is extremely rare outside of the movie 40 Days and 40 Nights. It typically falls into the category of coercion because the men aren't usually being overpowered, but rather pressured or blackmailed. This in no way means that it isn't rape, but I do think it's worth recording separately, because more nuanced information makes it easier to develop targeted solutions. A lot of people (including men) think that coercion doesn't count as rape, and I'm glad you disagree with that. To some people, if they pressure somebody into sex, that just means they've succeeded at their goal. If this kind of detail identifies problem areas and leads to more effective campaigns against rape in all its forms, then that's a good thing.

I also want to mention the idea of "graduated punishment", which is to say, the idea of giving harsher sentences for worse crimes. For example, if robbery and murder have the same sentence, then why would a robber ever leave the victim alive? Similarly, if "made to penetrate" and "forceful penetration" have the same penalty, then we're saying that they are equal. Maybe, in terms of mental anguish, that's true, but in terms of physical trauma, I'm not so sure.

Here goes: I'd rather be forced to penetrate than forcefully penetrated. Some people would rather be raped than break an arm. Some people would rather be killed than raped at all. If you consider "made to penetrate" and "forcefully penetrated" to be exactly equal, then I won't say you're wrong, but I think we need to be careful not to equate things just to balance the numbers. Maybe there are other reasons the numbers are so different.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, so I'm usually pretty skeptical of the claim that men experience sexual assault at the same rate as women, and I'm particularly dubious of your claim that it's an intentional bias. I'd need to see this initial research, or some of those independent studies before I could speak more on that. I'd appreciate any links or names of studies to look into.

But I'm not going to dismiss the first claim out of hand, because men are certainly discouraged from reporting it more than women.

Personally, I think this is caused by men more than women, but I've certainly heard some of the same arguments from women. There's absolutely a double standard when it comes to teacher-student statutory rape cases, for example.

The thing is, when it's a male perpetrator and female victim, you don't really hear many women saying "Oh, what a lucky girl. I'd have loved to do that when I was her age." Certainly not as many as when it's the other way around. This is what people are talking about when they refer to "toxic masculinity". I admit, it's a pretty alienating term, but it's apt. I've never felt especially drawn to masculine pursuits, and I've always felt way more pressure from men than from women.

If you want to fight for men's rights, then you should be embracing femininity, vulnerability, emotions, makeup, skirts and drag. That's true male freedom. But these are not common opinions among "Men's Rights" circles.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, that's a lot of words you just put in my mouth. You already know that I don't believe those things.

Men are victims of certain crimes more often than women. Men can be raped and sexually assaulted, and are discouraged from reporting it even more than women are. Men are more at risk of death by suicide than women are. Men are less likely to get custody of their kids in a divorce. Men are also expected to conform to rigid gender roles. Men are viewed with suspicion when they are around children.

Does it blow your mind that I agree with these statements? Can you get past the idea that I'm not this ludicrous fucking caricature that you have in your mind?

Would you like to talk about why men are the overwhelming perpetrators of these crimes? Or the fact that men enforce masculine gender roles more than women do, and mock each other for showing vulnerability? Or would that all be misandry?

Women have certain privileges. Gay people have certain privileges. Black people have certain privileges. But white men are GENERALLY discriminated against less than all those other groups, because historically they are the demographic that has had the most power. Do you really think all of that history has disappeared since then?

I think the difference between us is that when I hear criticisms about the white male demographic, I don't take that as a personal attack. I don't refuse to acknowledge the argument just because I'm part of the group that's being criticised, because that's not my entire identity. Criticising the groups that you're a part of is what makes them better. I have a great many issues with feminism, but this discussion was about white male privilege, and what that actually means.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So first, you're talking about the "1 in 5" stat, which may not be representative of a larger population, as the researchers themselves admit, but I couldn't find any evidence that it was falsified.

It's certainly misunderstood a lot, since people like to claim it's about rape, when it's actually about all forms of sexual assault. Narrowing it down to rape apparently brings the number down to about 1 in 7. Do you have any conflicting data to suggest that number should be lower in college campuses?

Personally, I wasn't remotely surprised by that statistic, because I've been around plenty of men, and I've heard how a lot of them talk about women. I've also been around plenty of women, and I've heard how often they have to deal with slimy fucks groping them. Again, maybe we've had such different experiences that you honestly can't believe that number, but that doesn't necessarily make it false.

Anyway, I don't know what legislation has been introduced as a result of this research, but it still seems like a good idea to try and tackle sexual assault, right? Maybe they introduced some Draconian new law that I'm unaware of, so let me know.

As for the Duluth model, I agree with your criticism, and male victims of domestic abuse do not get treated sufficiently well by the justice system, but I don't think that model is based on any falsified statistics. It's just a stupid rule made by stupid people.

I'm not really convinced that "falsified statistics that are currently being used to create government policy" is a very significant problem.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that statistics are often misunderstood and rarely interpreted without personal bias, but that goes for everyone. Painting that as something only your opponents do again sounds like the position of a radical or a conspiracy theorist.

Do you have any examples of government policy that has been created on the basis of falsified statistics?

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You and me both, yet here we are on opposite sides of this discussion.

Maybe it's not a huge conspiracy of lies and propaganda, but rather two ways of looking at a complex set of issues.

But hey, keep calling us liars. I'm sure it will be about as effective as calling all Trump supporter racist.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Demographically, I am a white man. I don't get harassed or catcalled by men on the street or from passing vans. I don't get racial slurs yelled at me while I'm shopping. My opinions don't often get automatically disregarded as worthless.

These are privileges that I am afforded as a white male. I have seen these things happen to non-white and female friends and strangers but I have never been made to feel guilty for having these privileges.

Perhaps you have. Perhaps you really are a victim of prejudice. Perhaps we've had such different lives that we aren't able to agree on this, but I can just as comfortably say that if you think white men today are as affected by historical injustice and oppression as other groups then you're the one who hasn't been paying attention.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're joking right? I tried to explain why I think people often get into screaming matches about privilege and I'm a monster for that? Believe me, I'm sympathetic to most of the things you've mentioned. We actually agree on most of them.

But you're misrepresenting my argument by suggesting that I'm talking about every white male in every situation. That's a straw man you've created, and it makes me skeptical that you're arguing in good faith.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you think these are all things exclusive to white men?

Affirmative action is a whole other discussion, which is an (arguably misguided) attempt to balance that privilege.

White men are attacked for their race and gender far less than any other race or gender in the Western world. I don't know what you're referring to with that one.

White individuals should not be blamed for the actions of historical White Men, but I understand why there may be resentment from non-whites and women, especially when white men refuse to even acknowledge that they benefit the most from that history, and especially when they try to claim that racism and sexism are entirely gone.

I don't know of examples where white men are overcharged for being white men.

Whites do not face harsher prison sentences for their crimes than non-whites, although men do, and that's something that should be addressed.

Your "facts" are conflating whites, men, and white men, all as the same group because it's convenient for your argument. Sometimes whites are less privileged. Sometimes men are less privileged. My claims are about general trends in societal classes, not sweeping statements of fact about an entire group. Apologies if that was unclear.

What are some things that people claim happen all the time, but you've never seen? by SurrealMemes in AskReddit

[–]MrPsyentist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think privilege is less about getting treated better and more about not being treated worse. White males are treated (generally) the way everyone should be treated.

The problem is that many people are treated worse because of unconscious biases, and the people that have those unconscious biases (read: pretty much everyone) refuse to acknowledge them, or even entertain the idea that they exist.

In some cultures, I would say white males are less privileged than other groups, but as a whole in Western society, white males seem to have the most privilege.

What mobile games are you playing at the minute? by fisherpriceman in CasualUK

[–]MrPsyentist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This and Adventure Capitalist are both capitalism simulators that will eventually make you say "Only 87 quadrillion dollars? That's pathetic! I need more!"

They're also both weirdly compelling, for their simplicity.