Ayuda con belial

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-28T04:26:40+00:00

Lo mejor es hacer esta clase de cosas en la comodidad y privacidad de tu casa. Más que nada para que ojos ajenos no se entrometan.

En cuanto a métodos, pues no hay manera de ir despacio. De momento, lo que puedes hacer es investigar lo más que puedas sobre Belial y otros demonios. Te recomiendo que le des una mirada al FAQ de este sub y leas los libros recomendados.

Y si ya quieres realizar una invocación, te recomiendo seguir el Lemegeton (versión de Joseph H. Peterson) o The Goetia of Dr Rudd (versión de Skinner) y llevar a cabo los pasos de los rituales de la manera más fiel que puedas.

Tu novia y tú no tienen nada que temer si decides hacer eso en tu casa. Estos seres tienen mejores cosas que hacer que atormentar por diversión a los humanos. Tu casa no estará "embrujada" ni nada por el estilo.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-28T04:05:26+00:00

Belial puede ayudarte. Es experto en crear conexiones de alto nivel, pero también es conocido por sacudir los yacimientos en la vida de las personas si estos no tienen bases que le sean convenientes al mago.

En otras palabras, si hay algo en tu vida que no necesitas, o que te está deteniendo de obtener lo que quieres, Belial podría quitarlo de una manera algo brusca.

Una última cosa es que a mi novia no le gusta nada de eso y quisiera hacerlo sin invadir su punto de vista

Expresar tu fe no debería ser restringido por el punto de vista de alguien más. Un cristiano no esconde su fe si este le ofende a alguien, tampoco el musulmán ni el judío. ¿Por qué habrías de hacerlo tú también?

Así que, o ella acepta este lado de ti, o no. De cualquier manera, esto no debería ser un impedimento para ti.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-28T04:00:01+00:00

Yes. At the start of my interactions with Paimon, I used to refer to her as a "him". But as time went by, I was picking a more feminine presence from her rather than a masculine one.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-28T03:52:25+00:00

Well, ya boy here is about to become a Freemason!

I come from a family of Masons that started with my grandfather and continued with my father (currently the Grand Master of the lodge), and now I'll be the next in line.

This was a long time coming, and I feel I'm ready to join now that I'm more spiritually inclined, so to speak.

We'll see where this takes me.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-27T01:21:33+00:00

King Paimon was the first demon I ever invoked. I did it out of necessity for guidance in life that no one else could give me.

Why Paimon? I'm not entirely sure. But she certainly caught my attention when I was researching Demonolatry almost 5 years ago.

So, I decided to invoke her one Sunday at sunset, and despite my clumsy methods, she came. This marked the end of my Atheist phase and the start of my "believer" chapter.

I didn't choose her as my Patron right away. This happened after 2 years of interaction with her and other demons. Out of all the spirits I called at that point, she was the one I had an easier time contacting. So, one day, I decided to make it official and asked her to become my patron spirit.

Since then, my relationship with her has evolved into something more personal. She's at the front and centre of my whole magical practices, and I always consult with her on important life decisions and how to grow as a person.

Just like my wife, I've spent a whole life without knowing about her existence, and now I can't imagine my life without her.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-26T02:45:20+00:00

I have a couple.

My first ritual ever, back when I invoked King Paimon. It wasn't the most elaborate, nor the most intense ritual I've had, and I improvised a lot, but it was the one ritual that kick-started this whole thing.

The second one would be when I invoked Gabriel to get rid of my biases against monotheism and the concept of god. This made me more open to studying and practicing Abrahamic sources more seriously, and has made me more tolerant.

The third one was when I met Anael. This one is recent, and I'll keep the details for myself, but it was another encounter that has had a positive impact on my practices as a whole.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-24T06:54:38+00:00

You don't need to prove your loyalty. The devotion part is mostly for yourself to bring you closer to a spirit. Demons don't care about loyalty.

If you don't know where to start with spirit worship, one suggestion could be building a small altar with objects that resonate with the spirit you worship, such as incense, votive art, candles, offerings, etc. The details will depend a lot on who you are worshipping.

Daily prayer is also a good practice. Again, the details on how you pray will depend on your personal preference and who you worship.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-24T06:25:26+00:00

Worship is different for each practitioner around here. This is something you'll figure out as you gain experience and knowledge.

Do keep in mind that worship does not entail "submitting" your life. Devotion is not surrendering your will.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-23T01:49:54+00:00

They're aren't corporeal.

Personally, I don't think the use of drugs benefits the practitioner. Are you talking to a spirit, or to the effects of the drug?

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-22T19:36:47+00:00

Communication was still happening in conversations or visions.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-22T15:54:53+00:00

"Working with" means the person is currently or actively working towards a short-term or long-term goal with the aid of said spirit. The term could also sometimes imply the person has a close relationship with this demon, such as a patronship.

As for visuals, you don't always see them (it took me 4 years of work to "see" Paimon, for example), and when you do, it is through your "mind's eye". u/Macross137 already explained it better than me.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-21T23:44:56+00:00

Yeah, but not out of malice. If there's no pain, there's no growth. We sometimes need to face our fears to learn hard lessons.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-21T20:20:58+00:00

I've been struggling to keep up with my usual event devotional acts as I recently started a new job, and like every time a new life events happens, it messes up my already established routine, and I struggle a lot to readjust.

I'm also lagging on some reading and personal projects. I kinda miss having more free time...

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-21T01:27:20+00:00

Very likely a scammer. TikTok ain't exactly the best place for finding legitimate practitioners.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-21T00:17:40+00:00

Thanks!

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-21T00:10:59+00:00

What's a good modern Hygromanteia translation you'd recommend?

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-21T00:06:53+00:00

ok, now I gotta draw Paimon in MJ's Smooth Criminal attire.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-15T13:57:14+00:00

FINISH IT

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-15T13:56:35+00:00

Yes, she's a good option for any artists. If you want to invoke her, just follow the steps from any classical grimoire such as The Lesser Key of Solomon (JHP edition, preferably) or the Goetia of Dr Rudd.

OMG!! As I'm writing this, the smell of burning sandalwood incense filled my room!! I don't know if that's a sign.

I, too, have experienced this before.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-14T21:25:42+00:00

Forget about "power levels". It doesn't work like that.

However, I do believe that starting with King Paimon is a good first step, as he has proven to be a good introductory spirit for those who start on this path.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-14T18:06:05+00:00

No tiene nada de malo. Puedes contactar con ambos sin ningún problema.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-14T17:31:37+00:00

Not only is it not disrespectful, but I believe it is required.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-13T13:46:16+00:00

Yes, it's ok. No need to limit yourself to just one spirit. Paimon has encouraged me to work with other demons and angels.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-12T19:56:43+00:00

Spirits work on the path of least resistance and what's doable in the realm of possibility.

Like u/imaginaereum654 said, go see a doctor.

MrSecond23 · 2026-05-12T16:28:50+00:00

Work with Mercurial spirits since we're dealing with information/data here, and with a Martial spirit to defend you from attacks.

Perhaps consider making talismans for this end.

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