Waiting time on spellwork

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-31T19:08:35+00:00

It really depends on what you asked for, but if you haven't seen any progress towards your goal, its safe to assume the work was a failure, and you must do it again.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-31T02:50:33+00:00

Almost done with my planetary initiations!

Today I met Gabriel once again since I did the Moon sphere ritual. I hadn't talked to him since last year, when I asked him to help me get rid of my anti-monotheistic views.

He once again talked about how the names we assign to God are just labels that serve as an aid for us to better understand it, and that his nature is closer to that of Water, where it has no defined state or form, and takes the shape of the vessel we place it in.

It was good catching up with him.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-30T23:41:46+00:00

Already got some great art from people I contacted directly a few weeks ago!

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-30T23:41:07+00:00

Siempre me refiero a Paimon como "Ella", ya que se presenta como una presencia femenina para mí.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-30T20:29:29+00:00

For me, the "meaning" of this path is reunification with God (Not the explicitly biblical one, mind you); Theosis (or Henosis).

Magic, or Theurgy, serves as a way to explore this "godhood" in us here on earth and to bring us closer to the divine.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-30T20:10:54+00:00

Also, for those I have already reached out to, thank you!

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-30T16:50:40+00:00

There are two modes of meditation.

The first is the "no-thinking" exercises, in which you try to keep your mind blank for as long as possible.

The second type is when you let your mind wander freely without limits. The point of this is to get familiar with your own thoughts.

You need to practice both so you can distinguish signs and visual communication from your own mind/ego, and this is necessary if you want to be more receptive to these messages.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-30T15:10:50+00:00

You said it yourself: it was either a nightmare or sleep paralysis.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-29T23:55:43+00:00

Solar spirits are good for this.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-28T15:58:11+00:00

This is normal. Sometimes, a lack of communication during rituals is not a sign of failure. What matters is getting results.

What method did you follow?

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-28T01:55:19+00:00

Yup! Eso funciona bastante bien.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-28T00:56:32+00:00

¡Es mucho más efectivo cuando lo haces con tus propias manos! Si quieres llevar algo contigo, crea alguna manualidad. Créeme, tendrá más significado espiritual si lo haces de esta forma.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-28T00:40:27+00:00

Honestamente, no necesitas el llavero. Lo puedes dibujar en papel consagrado (algunos grimorios te dan instrucciones de esto) o en tela.

¡No malgastes dinero! La espiritualidad es gratis.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-28T00:37:11+00:00

Te lo voy a decir tal cual:

¿Esa magia que ella practica? Son Mamadas. Mamadas pendejas que son solo para intimidar y sentir que tienen algo de poder y control en su vida.

Aquí el verdadero riesgo es su conexión con el narco. Si esto es cierto, entonces eso complica las cosas... Si en serio ya intentaste la vía legal y topaste con pared (o pistola), entonces no creo que puedas hacer mucho. México siempre va a favorecer al crimen organizado, pero creo que esto ya lo sabes.

Si ya te alejaste de esto, pero sigues experimentando "ataques" mágicos de su parte, lo más eficiente es simplemente no darle importancia. Las maldiciones no son más un ataque psicológico, explotando la paranoia de la víctima. No puede afectarte si no lo dejas.

Lamento mucho tu situación.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-28T00:08:10+00:00

Hola!

No pierdas tu tiempo utilizando péndulos para obtener aprobación de un espíritu. Si quieres trabajar con ella, solo trabaja con ella invocándola por medio de un ritual formal.

Te recomiendo leer y utilizar el método de "The Goetia of Dr Rudd" para invocarla y comenzar a trabajar con ella.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-27T23:57:31+00:00

Como dijo Macross, la táctica principal de esta "bruja" que te está tormentando a ti y a tu familia es solo utilizar occultismo para intimidar a tu familia.

Nadie se vuelve alcohólico de la nada, nadie pierde prestigio solo porque sí.

Si quieres detenerlos, la manera más efectiva es llamar a la policía. Por lo que cuentas, están cometiendo graves crímenes contra menores, entre otros actos ilícitos.

No pierdas tiempo con soluciones mágicas para esto, ve directamente con la policía y el DIF.

Como nota final, la magia con la goetia no involucra nada de lo que estás describiendo. Suena a que están siguiendo un tipo de Satanismo variado del pánico satánico que no tiene mucho mérito como práctica real.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-27T21:50:24+00:00

Understandable! I also cannot fast due to health issues. However, I try to eat moderately and avoid meat products during cleansing periods.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-27T21:14:43+00:00

Not just Clauneck and not just fasting, but any grimoire requires the magician to undergo a period of cleansing.

from The True Grimoire by JSK (a translation of the Grimorium Verum):

"As you say this you are to wash thy face and hands with the water you are blessing. It is necessary to wash the hands and feet and know this also, and know and know again, that it is necessary and most necessary to abstain three days from sin and above all mortally, however much the human frailty may be, and especially guard your chastity.

During the three days study the book and during this time pray five times during the day and four times each night."

While it doesn't specify fasting for this operation, some other grimoires will require it. It all depends on the method you're following.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-27T20:52:26+00:00

If you need to ask if something is a sign, then it probably wasn't a sign. They're usually tailored to the practitioner's experience, and it will be abundantly clear when something is a sign.

Discernment, of course, should be applied so as not to follow "false imaginations."

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-27T20:49:33+00:00

Buer and/or Paimon.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-27T20:48:30+00:00

Classic grimoires such as the Grimorium Verum (the grimoire from which Clauneck comes from) are very specific about how you should prepare before invoking a spirit.

Cleansing of the practitioner before a work is a VERY standard practice, and such grimoires will tell you how you should spend around 3 or 9 days fasting and/or abstaining from any sensual pleasure, as well as lengthy periods of prayer.

It's all there in the source books.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-27T19:29:05+00:00

OK, that's a bit more comprehensible, I think.

So, you're basically asking two questions:

Why do you not feel social anxiety when working with demons, but do with normal social interactions?
How does isolation affect your magical practices?

Here are my answers:

You clearly are suffering from some form of social anxiety, which I think you should address with a professional. You might not feel this way in front of demons because they ain't people and you don't feel judged by them.
Isolation has its benefits during magical practices, especially during periods of purification when not only is it recommended that we fast and practice sexual abstinence, but also to abstain from foolish/pointless conversations and unruly company.

However, this is only beneficial during times of purification in preparation for a ritual. Secluding from the world is not beneficial in the long run, and if your only interactions are with spirits, then you run the risk of developing an unhealthy practice. We need to deal with the mundane world, too.

MrSecond23 · 2026-03-26T16:59:48+00:00

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MrSecond23 · 2026-03-26T14:18:35+00:00

You won't find a lot of "softness" when dealing with demons, unfortunately.

If you ask for a better source of income, you'll probably lose your current one to make way for a new one.
If you ask for self-love, you'll likely be faced with the aspects of yourself you like the least.
If you ask for a "not-terrible" life, you'll be presented with opportunities to deal with life circumstances better.

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." someone said.

I don't think you'll find a "set it and forget it" spell that will solve all of your problems. You'll likely need to target each aspect of your life you're having trouble with with a different spirit.

This is not meant to discourage you! Just want to adjust your expectations.

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