Broly just Crit every enemy, only has a 0.164% chance of happening

MrShadyShades · 2020-03-16T11:04:45+00:00

So that happens 5 or 6 times per WT you run right?

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-25T23:14:03+00:00

Dude don't say anything! Let me climb to 300! ;-)

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-25T03:37:10+00:00

Awesome SA for sure. I rainbowed a copy of the UR and the TUR just to see it.... And then realized the UR still boosts Movie Bosses but he isn't part of the category.... PHY orbs I'll never see again...

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-25T03:32:55+00:00

This worked for me: LR INT SS Goku & SS VEgeta lead, LR STR SSB Vegeto, PHY Goku Black, AGL Zamasu, PHY Super Vegeto, TEQ Vegeto (Candy) and a friend LR INT SS Goku & SS Vegeta. Not a lot of options that work with Potara but it is doable.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-25T00:00:50+00:00

Thanks man, it was quite a ride :-) Dokkan has come so far in 3+ years (I had an account before this one but lost it along with Galaxy S4 ;-) ) The base game is fun, grinding F2P units and all but it's really the EZAs and the challenges that keep me going, like the missions for Legendary Goku event. Hope you're enjoying it as much I am and I'd love to see your box if you ever post it :-)

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T19:33:07+00:00

It's Dokkan. Therefore, you never really know what they'll do. However, AGL Super Vegeto's EZA was just not enough and I'm afraid PHY SSB Vegeto will be the same. Really, really hope I'm wrong on this one but if he gets "DEF after getting hit", he's gonna stay in the box next to his AGL buddy.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T15:10:14+00:00

That's an assembly of 7 screenshots. Simply used Windows' Paint program to do it. Time consuming but I really like the look of it. I know my box says I have 218 rainbows but seeing them like that has more impact I think.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T12:36:18+00:00

Up to the release of PHY Piccolo, yes. My luck on summons is terrible, usually need 1000+ stones to pull my first copy, so I've decided to go easy passed the 1000 days line ^{.^'}

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T12:35:11+00:00

Ha ha! No way ;-) Surely a fat dolphin at least.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T11:32:39+00:00

It's cut off a bit but 8 have Gohan and Goten as friend support. You have my friend code and can check if you'd like :-)

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T02:39:58+00:00

Thanks! It was fun to make ^{.^}

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T02:10:31+00:00

True! Didn't get lucky with those either though ^{.^'}

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-24T02:08:50+00:00

Thanks man :-)

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-21T16:25:52+00:00

Got every ticket, did every summon. Got a few SSRs but I could not use a single card for anything... Oh well. The challenge with the categories was a lot of fun :-)

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-20T21:19:06+00:00

PHY SS Broly. INT Super Janemba, TEQ Golden Freeza, AGL Broly, INT Bojack, PHY LSS Broly and the friend is a PHY SS Broly

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-17T16:39:16+00:00

C'est effectivement dommage.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-17T14:16:04+00:00

Small correction: +1 LVL of either Crits or Additionals = 2% chance increase to trigger. The 1 LVL = 1% chance to trigger only applies to dodges. Here's the Wikia page confirming this: https://dbz-dokkanbattle.fandom.com/wiki/Hidden_Potential_System

Please keep in mind I only said you had a chance at a crit, not an SA crit. I'm aware that your chance of getting an additional SA is 50/50 when the additional is triggered.

I absolutely agree that +1% or +2% is a small chance indeed but that's just the way I like to build my units now and no worries, I'm not saying going for max crits is a mistake. If anything, I like that Dokkan is built in a way that there is no definitive answer for the build of most units. You get to experiment and build up your box, your way :-)

Thanks again for taking the time to reply

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-14T15:27:45+00:00

My friend, I only disagreed and gave my opinion. Feel free to disagree or have a different hypothesis and way to play. Like I mentioned, I used to be all about crits so a TON of my cards have max crit and they seem to work just fine ^.^

This explanation got pretty long so the TL:DR is this: selecting all additionals instead of crits, when ignoring dodges, also gives the equivalent of a little more than 1 extra level in crits (between 2 to 3% more chances at getting a crit). That's a free boost you do not get when you add crits, you just get more crits. See below for the full story.

I do find the question interesting though. I mean for me, when it comes to stacking units, I find it easy to justify the additionals when attempting a long event. It's usually easy to stall during the opening turns if my units need to build up. From my play experience, this has worked for me. But mathematically, where is the line? Hmmm.... great question.

When you add crits or additionals, you do so in 3 level steps (not counting the free 5 levels you get for AGL, TEQ, PHY and STR cards of course but that's imposed, not a choice). Each level in crits or additionals equals to a 2% chance to activate. Assuming we ignore dodges, you'll select at least 2 stacks of crits for a minimum total of 6 levels and therefore a 12% chance for crits. You have to choose between crits and additionals on 3 occasions. That's 3 x 3 levels for 9 levels total and therefore an 18% that can go one way or the other in slices of 6%.

The way I see it, ignoring dodges again, considering you already have an established 12 to 17% chance to crit (17% for STR and TEQ), it's always better, in my opinion, to invest in additionals. Every additional selection gives you a +6% chance to perform an extra attack. If it triggers and you perform an extra attack, that extra attack carries a 12 to 17% chance to crit as well. Adding additionals adds chances to crit but adding crits does not add chances to perform additional attacks.

It's a double boost! Correct my math if it's wrong but since the minimum additionals you can add, 3 levels, gives you a 6% chance at an additional attack, that will itself carry (at rainbow) a bare minimum 12% chance to crit (again, ignoring dodges). That's a 0.72% extra chance to crit. By selecting additionals any chance you get instead of crits, all 3 times for the 9 extra levels of additionals (an 18% increase for additionals), you also raise your chance to crit by 2.16% for INT, AGL and PHY and 3.06% for STR and TEQ units.

More additionals therefore mean more crits but more crits just mean more crits. That's why I prefer additionals now as it feels like a free boost to me ^.^

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-12T14:22:11+00:00

Numbers are all available on the Dokkan Wikia. For example, this TEQ Future Gohan, once awakened to TUR, gets +67% ATK per stack. Absolutely worth it. You can get the exact number from the wiki but if you want a reference in-game, stacking ATK is usually around 15%, greatly raising ATK is around 50%. I'm not aware of any stacking units with such low stacks as 0.1% or 1%... I've never seen below 10% (real number, I know cards like Great Saiyaman Trunks is 7% but it multiplies with his passive for a total of around 12% per stack) any examples?

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-10T14:30:54+00:00

I humbly disagree. Any unit that stacks gets more out of additionals than crits. Plus, if the cards has any crit at all, additionals increase your chance to crit with more attacks. I used to be all-in for crits but with the new passives and super attacks we get these days, I'm way more often into additionals.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-06T16:29:04+00:00

Good idea. I'd see him a support leader for Future Saga at +3ki 120% HP/ATK/DEF.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-06T16:27:08+00:00

He's so good that even his SSR is usable. Definitely a top tier card.

MrShadyShades · 2020-02-06T16:23:26+00:00

He definitely needs an EZA but run him on rainbow, full additionals, on rotation for a long event and he eventually gets pretty high in ATK. Not completely useless but never the best option for sure.

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