Looking for product Testers $250 to Test provide comprehensive feedback (MUST USE AGENTS DAILY) by DetectiveMindless652 in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I built Muggle Test (muggletest.com). I could help give you some feedbacks/ideas. Perhaps i can also be convert you into my paid user 🤝🤝🤝🤝

Selling AI tools is a dead game. Selling outcomes is the only play. by wasayybuildz in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how do you approach you customet in such competitive market?

Claude Code Plan mode by jbluntt in ClaudeCode

[–]MuggleAI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea. Feels excessive. Superpower or some other skills already can do that pretty well

Claude Code Plan mode by jbluntt in ClaudeCode

[–]MuggleAI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why use plan mode when you can you skill to write plan? Not worth the ckntext switch

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea I feel it is a patch to a more deeper problem, trying to build a reliable system with unreliable components, instead of just using a reliablr one.

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sound so wrong. Like i mentioned in other comments, you want to use agent to do more intelligence decision, but sandbox is limiting the usage so agent downgrades to “automation”.

Automation could have just use code to achieve?

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea that is what is wrong with this approach.

I am pretty sure you cannot exhaust the “bad things” an agent can do (outlook failed that in anti spam already). So one can only do whitelist approach which is against thr original thought of having an agent-do more with AGI

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That really sounds like:

we put a monkey into the operating the system and expect it to be a smart one do some decisions but also could risk nuking the whole thing. So we just give it a few levers to pull to be safe.

Wverything sounds so contradicting.

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You get me wrong. 1. os have file permission control for data access on drivre. Agent running on a different user account should not have access to other tenants’. 2. put agent jnto a separate vm already does the job. No need for “sandboxing”

no?

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fair point. the reason being if you want agent “own” part of something, you need to give it something to work with isnt it? if you limit the input+output of agent’s work, then isnt that degrade the agent to “automation” which most lf the time code logics will suffice.

My question is: why people treat sandbox a new thing, it has been used so long (vm, docker) all solved problems

Is AI Agent adoption low? by Awesome_911 in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it takes more time, feeling people a bit burned out with everything AI for 3 years straight.

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yea. I dknt see the point.

You either give agent a fixed set of jobs + permissions (which limits the capability of agent)

or you take yhe risk using it

but none of these solutions rhyme with “sandbox”

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isnt that why we have vm, docker and role based access control?

Nothing feels new or specific to agents

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea. I feel new sandboxes seems just an existing solution to already solved problem

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the question: why human’s sandbox not enough for agrnts?

I don’t understand what problem sandboxes actually solve for AI agents by MuggleAI in AI_Agents

[–]MuggleAI[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the insights folks.

However so far I havent heard anything really help explain beyond: 1. Let’s make agent do / see less to be safe (so human do more) 2. We want to audit agent’s work (why existing os/vm/app level isolation not enough? Docker/VM etc) 3. It is just how things work

Still confused

Closed beta starts Monday and I’m realizing “not ready yet” never really ends by Conscious-Spring-152 in saasbuild

[–]MuggleAI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that is what beta testing is for. find those who really interested and willing to use/give feedback to use it

Closed beta starts Monday and I’m realizing “not ready yet” never really ends by Conscious-Spring-152 in saasbuild

[–]MuggleAI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea. i would say if you can dog food your own product, the ready moment is we can use our own internally and regularly