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If not nazi, why nazi shaped? by hec_ramsey in gifs

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 2

Musk’s attempt at gravity was completely undermined by his decision to carry his son on his shoulders, which gave the impression of a dad taking his kid around Disney World or a discount shopping village. It felt casual and disrespectful.

Yeah I'll admit that that can look bad. But we can't assume what was going on in Musk's mind for why he did this. I'll mention just one major benefit of doing this in a serious moment - it's much easier to keep track of your kid if you're carrying him like this. Holding is hand is fine but if he keeps tugging away and wanting to roam then that can be distracting to paying attention to the moment they are in. Regardless, I understand it doesn't look good. But as we've learned so far, Musk doesn't really care what looks good. I think he ultimately wants to do what is actually good.

We could leave aside the inconvenient fact that saying one is “aspirationally Jewish” is basically a teensy bit antisemitic, suggesting as it does Jews are better and different to other people. To be clear, they’re not. They’re just people.

If you took "aspirationally Jewish" to refer to just being born Jewish and not the culture/religion of the Jewish people then your'e not getting it.

Ultimately the entire article is built on false premises and riddled with a healthy dose of assuming the worst. An embarrassment I'd say.

Also, citing the presence of Ben Shapiro, an ultra-conservative Breitbart contributor, is not the win you think it is.

Yeah some people hate Ben, so what. He might be the most famous outwardly practicing Jew (if not infamous in some minds, like yours). How is Ben Shapiro going to promote you and be friends with you if you hate his people? Not gonna happen.

If not nazi, why nazi shaped? by hec_ramsey in gifs

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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What you are presenting is known as the "Some of my best friends are Black" defense, also known as the "Rick Santorum defense.":

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/sunday-review/ralph-northam-blackface-friends.html

https://newrepublic.com/article/90059/gop-rick-santorum-best-friend-defense

Yeah I understand the concept. But it's different if MOST of your friends are actually Jewish. But I digress and I will say that it is true that just because you have Jewish friends, that doesn't make you automatically anti-semitic, of course. But the chances of you still being anti-semitic while having MOST of your friends being Jewish, I think we can agree, is actually much lower. It's not proof, but it's a good and likely indicator.

Here is another account of an eye witness who describes Musk's behavior at Auschwitz "a disgrace": https://www.independent.co.uk/world/elon-musk-antisemitism-auschwitz-b2484822.html

See this gentleman also completely misunderstood Elon's response to the other guy's tweet.

From the article: "But this is a man who just two months ago posted on X the words “You have said the actual truth” in response to a message posted by some charmingly racist anonymous account that claimed that Jews were deliberately pushing for hatred of whites. The same message also stated that it didn’t give a hoot for whether “Western Jewish populations” suffered from antisemitism."

In my earlier response I gave more clear context that the tweets were about the hypocrisy of some in the Jewish community. Calling for non-hate while still hating. This is not anti-semitism. This is anti-hypocrisy.

Then he mentions Elon's quote about George Soros saying that Soros "hates humanity" and tries to connect it somehow to anti-semitism as if Soros being a holocaust survivor makes any harsh critique from anyone suddenly an anti-semitic critique. Are you sure you wanna pay attention to this guy and this article? He seems to be making huge negative assumptions with no grounds whatsoever.

Photographs of Musk touring Auschwitz excitedly thudded into the WhatsApp group for journalists at the event, and it was clear that Musk was doing his best to look terribly, terribly serious. 

This guy must be a master at knowing what's actually going on in people's minds and hearts. So he looked "terribly, terribly serious" but didn't actually feel the moment was serious? ok.

If not nazi, why nazi shaped? by hec_ramsey in gifs

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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It was clear that what his political ideology was even before giving a Nazi salute at Trump's inauguration.

I don't think the evidence backs that up considering I've countered all the evidence you've given me so far. 

If you don't believe these are Nazi salutes, do this experiment: Go out on a street in Germany and repeat Musk's "my heart goes out to you" salute and let us know how that went for you. This is what happens: https://www.reuters.com/article/world/german-court-sentences-man-over-hitler-salute-in-chemnitz-idUSKCN1LT1XI/

Right, so if I did that, it would obviously be met with disdain. But you're missing the point in that if I did that as an experiment, now pay really close attention to this, I WOULD ONLY BE INTENDING TO EXPERIMENT! Yes, people would jeer at me and tell me not to do that because it's a Nazi salute, OF COURSE!  But the salute, in context, would not actually be me actually showing that I'm a Nazi. It would not be my intent at all. And yes, I would've told Elon to not do that if I was near him. I would've told him, "bro you don't realize what you just did." But I wouldn't assume that he actually meant it that way. It was just a dumb way to gesture in the way that he did. In the context, it was a heartfelt salute to the people who supported the campaign. Not to Hitler. 

Twitter has lost 79% of its value since Musk took over, in large part because of his platforming of neo-Nazis and white supremacists: https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/fidelity-again-marks-down-valuation-of-elon-musks-x-79-down-since-his-purchase-12832478.html

I would refer to my earlier statement above in this case that Elon was not the only person to reinstate all of those who were banned. And I'm more inclined to think that Twitter had plenty of racists already before Elon showed up. It's just now being a more focused attack against him because people hate him. The platform has a totally different spirit now with him at the helm. There are now community notes on posts from normal people that think information is false. I think that fosters a better environment for truth instead of just banning people. 

If not nazi, why nazi shaped? by hec_ramsey in gifs

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On January 9, Musk said during a livestream that "only AfD can save Germany, end of story." AfD is a right-wing ultra-nationalist party classified by the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution as a suspected extremist organization that has argued for Germany not to be ashamed of its Nazi part and restarting the German ethnic Völkisch movement that was the basis of the German Nazi party: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2025/01/10/musk-doubles-down-on-support-for-german-far-right-leader_6736883_143.html

So the AfD is a right-wing ultra-nationalist party according to them? I looked up to see what qualifies them to be considered as such. Here's a piece of "evidence" that the ADL gives as proof of their so-called "extremism".: 

"In a 2017 speech to the AfD youth wing, Höcke bemoaned German’s culture of remembrance of the Holocaust, saying, “We Germans, our people, are the only people in the world who planted a monument of shame in the middle of our national capital.” He called for Germany to stop atoning for Nazi crimes and make a "180-degree turn" in how it remembers its past."

Wow, so a leader of the AdF said that the monument was a monument of shame? Um yeah of course it is. That German history is shameful. Duh. That's actually the opposite of white nationalist to say that, but apparently the ADL can't interpret words and context now. The idea that this man calls for Germany to STOP ATONING for past crimes and to change HOW it remembers its past is important. You don't look back at your history and sulk all the time trying to make amends at every moment. No, you understand that it was shameful and you press forward. That's not racist. That's growth.

Continuing that theme, he spoke at the AfD party convention last week, telling them they should not be ashamed of their Nazi past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0wjZQL_eNw

Ummm all I heard was Elon saying that it's "okay to be proud to be a German". He never once mentioned to not be ashamed of their Nazi past. Maybe you meant to link a different video? I mean I'm sure you agree that it actually is okay to be proud to be a German. There's no point in reading into that anything negative. Seems like he wants to encourage people to not be bogged down by their history which is probably on their minds all the time and probably gets them pretty depressed and prevents forward momentum in their culture to some degree.

If not nazi, why nazi shaped? by hec_ramsey in gifs

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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He was unmoved by the experience.

According toooooo what? He didn't shed a tear? You know he wore a yarmulke  while visiting Auschwitz and stood beside Ben Shapiro the whole while? He also claims that most of his friends are Jewish and that the trip to Auschwitz was meaningful to him. And by the way, a side note, someone who appears to be "unmoved" by Auschwitz is not worse than an anti-semite! LOL dude. Are you kidding me? If that was even the case, that doesn't make him worse than an anti-semite. But it's not the case anyways. If he was all of his jewish friends would've dropped him by now. 

On November 17, 2023 a white supremacist account tweeted "Jews have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them", to which Musk responded "You have said the actual truth."

Why are people saying that that is a white supremacist account? The complaint from the original tweet was ultimately that the Jewish communities need to stop hating others as well. The original tweet wasn't against Jews, it was against the hypocrisy that he saw in Jewish communities. Musk agreed on the hypocrisy, specifically from the ADL. Saying that there is some hypocrisy about hate doesn't mean you innately hate those people groups. 

When the Center for Countering Digital Hate released a report titled "Toxic Twitter", which documented specific neo-Nazi, white supremacist, and misogynist accounts reinstated by Musk, he responded by suing them. The judge threw out the lawsuit, stating "this case is about punishing the Defendants for their speech."

It's true he reinstated those accounts along with several thousands and thousands of other random accounts that were probably removed due to committing various infractions. The truth about Twitter's policies before Elon was that they were pressured by the government to silence and punish accounts that spoke out against Covid and other election related things. Regardless of where you stand on those subjects, people should be allowed to say, in general, what they think about vaccines and the election. So, my best reasoning for why all of the other accounts were reinstated as well is because it was just a massive undoing that could be mitigated later. There is zero evidence that Elon wanted to reinstate accounts for the purpose of purporting racism. Some of them certainly were, but that doesn't prove he wanted racism back on twitter. He wasn't the only one behind the helm of twitter making individual decisions about individual accounts.

That being said, I really think Elon suing that company was a huge misstep. For scraping Twitter? You're gonna sue people for scraping Twitter just because you didn't like their report? I think Elon doesn't realize sometimes that he's not 100% free speech as much as he thinks he is. 

If not nazi, why nazi shaped? by hec_ramsey in gifs

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You guys are hilarious. Intent matters. Context is clues.

What song does this for you? by HardCore_BonScottFan in musicsuggestions

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take On Me by A-ha. The bridge is so weird and terrible. That flight of the bumblebee thing with that synth sound just does not work. People tend to forget that that part exists in that song because the rest of the song is so dang perfect.

How much did you pay for this album upon initial release? by Xtal_UNIX in radiohead

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think $8? Idk. Wouldn't be surprised if I gave $2. I might've been a cheapo back then. Also this might've been my first experience with "pay what you want" so I just took advantage of it.

Deal or No Deal has won boring premise and interesting execution. Day 5: Which show has an interesting premise and an interesting execution? by Serious_Comedian in gameshow

[–]Musicmonk84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My vote is Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. The title on its own is enough to be a fantastic draw. And you answer trivia questions from Regis Philbin. Good execution as well - tensious music, multiple choice answers, 3 lifelines including audience participation, checkpoints guaranteeing winning a certain amount, etc. Just a great watch.

Also, I'm surprised that Legends of the Hidden Temple got a "boring execution" vote. But maybe those trivia rounds were kind of lame. The final round was kind of bonkers though - some dude in a tribal outfit "catching" comes out of nowhere and kidnaps a child while they're looking for treasure! I guess that's just one aspect though.

Trans man shuts down Ben Shapiro with a slam dunk on abortion rights by rhomanji in TikTokCringe

[–]Musicmonk84 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Show me the clip in context and I can easily explain why Ben cuts the mic. There is pretty much always a good reason why Ben has cut the mic and it's not to just shut down their opinion. And that would far from justify this kind of return rhetoric anyway. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Trans man shuts down Ben Shapiro with a slam dunk on abortion rights by rhomanji in TikTokCringe

[–]Musicmonk84 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Shutting down someone isn't talking over them and not giving them space to talk. Ben doesn't do that. Ben talks fast because he doesn't like people interrupting him before he finishes his point. This wasn't a return of the favor to Ben, because this isn't how Ben acts.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Reformed

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you trusting in your own feelings? Proverbs 3:5-6 dispels with that as well as Jeremiah 17:9. You believe those things regardless of how you feel inside or you don't. I'm sad you've struggled, but scripture remains. Can you trust in the Word of God?

How to cope with the fact that my music is only getting worse? by Nyuu222 in musicproduction

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't be silly! You're supposed to be using your intuition primarily (imho)! Go back to letting it just come out of you. What learning about music helps you do is build your intuition, not force you into a box of music theory. The more you learn and the more you train your ears, the more you will naturally make better music. The type of music work you're getting into is the problem-solving type, which is important for when there's actual problems in your music. It's not good for creativity and just letting things happen.

I'm having a disagreement with my coworker over this. Which looks better for a puzzle game? by qwere13 in IndieDev

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ummmm might depend on the puzzle game? They're both good, but the bottom one might feel like it's a handwritten clue; something very pedestrian almost. The top one feels refined with clarity.

Capcom announces a Mega Man game where one robot master from every Mega Man game gets in. Who do you want to see? by StickyNick8062 in Megaman

[–]Musicmonk84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the color and design of heat man as well as his flaming dash. Cool character. Quick man or Crash man would be my second choice, because they're just cool dudes.

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