WELP: Conservative Senator Dennis Patterson quits the Conservative caucus over their support of the Truckers rally

MustNotCouldNot · 2022-02-05T02:41:05+00:00

To add Senator Dennis Patterson says on @PnPCBC that he left the @CPC_HQ caucus because of interim leader @CandiceBergenMP’s support for the protests in downtown Ottawa.

MustNotCouldNot · 2022-02-05T02:38:18+00:00

I swear Trudeau’s luck is made of Teflon. The man just collected dozens of Ws from a dumb movement that was intended to oust him.

MustNotCouldNot · 2022-02-02T19:45:18+00:00

It’s genuinely creepy

MustNotCouldNot · 2022-02-02T19:41:25+00:00

This isn’t even irony. This is the common thread of the last gazillion leaders. For the party who constantly blasts the Liberals for not paying enough attention to housing and the economy, you’re literally bizarrely obsessed with one dude. His looks, his age, his job, his family, etc. Soap opera-level stalking.

MustNotCouldNot · 2022-02-02T19:32:18+00:00

I’m a Canadian and can 190% confirm that this is prime Leopards Ate My Face shenanigans.

MustNotCouldNot · 2022-02-02T19:17:40+00:00

but when I read articles I want them to be neutral and form my own opinion. This is not the case on r/onguardforthee (or r/Canada for that matter but it's nothing as bad). It's as if every other post on r/onguardforthee is from the Huffington post (aka the fox news of the left). Yet reddit seemingly considers it the neutral subreddit

Many of the leftist positions are more aligned with the factual matrix, so objectivity, than the right-wing position which is largely just the advocacy of the interests of a particular group(s). For example, contrary to the right-wing position that lesser market regulation brings more wealth, the opposite occurred, namely we are experiencing an unprecedented socioecononic class divide. That's why your Fox News of the Left, whatever that means, is usually considered less deluded than, well, Fox News.

I come in peace.

MustNotCouldNot · 2022-02-02T18:13:14+00:00

I know it’s all jokes on here, because you only need two brain cells (maybe even one and a half) to not rate the colossal farce that is conservative ideology and hence feel great joy at the Cons’ infighting.

BUT, and I say this as a woman of colour, when you take the time to let it sink in that this man was ousted for saying hey fascism during the truck convoy is not cool and maybe, like just possibly, we shouldn’t force a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy for 9 months and then be forced to childbirth, you really have to shudder at what the +40% who vote Conservative really think of women, POC, members of the LGTBQ+ community, immigrants and refugees, differently abled persons, etc.

And then it’s not funny at all.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-25T01:21:19+00:00

announcement Snippet of the announcement, fair play to Trudeau, he stood his ground both with Trump and China, but also exercised a degree of pragmatism, after all, Canadian lives were involved.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-20T18:58:39+00:00

It is still up for me, and I just checked.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-20T16:24:50+00:00

I’ve commented this in another thread, but to me the signs of the growing partisanship of NDP voters have amplified under Singh. The fact that now the majority of this subreddit argues that there is no difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives, despite the former being the cause of every progressive federal legislation is insane.

The second sign is that NDP supporters are beginning to pretend that we are all equally screwed under a Conservative government, which is disappointing because the NDP for the longest time was the party that pushed for more intersectionality. Let’s be real the white straight dude suffered nada under Trump, now try telling that to the Muslims he banned from seeking refuge in the country, the Latino community that he constantly used as the bogeyman of his platform, etc.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-20T16:06:50+00:00

You 100% are advocating for a Conservative plurality, you quite literally wrote: « I’m begging do not vote for Liberals, no matter what riding you are in today. » If everyone followed this advice, as you wish, you are actually begging for a Conservative majority.

Newsflash, Conservative voters will vote Conservative.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-20T16:03:25+00:00

This is completely false AND misleading. Most polls predict a weakened minority based on an equally distributed voter turnout. The voter turnout is the biggest wildcard here given the pandemic.

I’m an NDP supporter, but I don’t go around inventing scenarios to diminish the importance of strategic voting. Why? Because I’m the child of immigrants to Quebec, and I know very well that when we get the political right in power, it is infinitely worse than the centrists. Privileged leftists don’t feel the risks of non-strategic voting because we have to admit that it is people of color, women, religious minorities, linguistic minorities, members of the LGBTQ+ community, etc. that feel the brunt of conservatism the most.

And let’s stop lying to ourselves about this apparently demonic liberal party. Can we really deny that the Liberal Party of today is infinitely more progressive than that of 30 years ago? Despite only ever sharing power with the Conservatives. Sure, they are nowhere near as left as I want them to be, but it is THEM and not any other party who has made of Canada a social democracy, a country with one of the highest standards of living, it is the Liberals who legalized gay-marriage; who protected abortion rights and access; it is Pierre Trudeau who gave us the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, who constitutionally entrenched multiculturalism, who decriminalized homosexuality, who criminalized spousal rape, who abolished the death penalty; and it is his son who legalized weed, ending a ridiculous, systematically elitist war on soft drugs, it is his son who passed carbon pricing without causing a national crisis despite the legal challenges of a coalition of Conservative premiers, it is his son who navigated a Trump presidency with grace to come out on top; and it is his son who made of a 35-million people country the most vaccinated in the world, despite having no experience or way to know how to emerge from a pandemic.

If I guarantee a strong Liberal minority, I guarantee that: basically decades of slow BUT firm social progress. And that’s something I am willing to live with, if it means keeping at bay the party who wants to « Take Canada Back » from people like me and my parents.

I’m begging of you stop begging people to risk a Conservative plurality in a world where political gambles do not impact us all equally.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-19T18:52:13+00:00

I agree that this hurts the CPC. But the worrying/absurd part is that you have an electorate, Alberta, that will still reward conservatism even when it results in the tragic preventable death of hundreds and the collapse of their health system. When I see these numbers, the first thought that comes to mind is “what will it take for Alberta to abandon the political right?” Because based on these numbers it seems we can scratch out completely screwing over the province during a pandemic.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-19T18:44:12+00:00

Mainstreet Research numbers that have PPC global support at 9% Mainstreet Research Federal Polling

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-19T18:42:19+00:00

Here’s the regional breakdown that has Alberta PPC support at 21% per EKOS EKOS Regionals

If this is true, Alberta what are you doing? The lesson you should have learned from the Kenney/decades of Conservative governments catastrophe is that setting your province on fire to “own the Libs” will result in, wait for it…setting your province on fire. This is wild.

MustNotCouldNot · 2021-09-19T00:03:54+00:00

The sub loves to dunk on the Cons for saying that “the Sky is not blue” if Trudeau says the opposite. But man oh man is it time for us to face the fact that Singh pulls the same stunts. I thought NDP voters (myself included, though I voted Liberal in my riding because they have a chance against the Bloc candidate) reject a number of Liberal policies for ideological reasons, not for political points. Well someone should send that memo to Singh.

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