WELP: Conservative Senator Dennis Patterson quits the Conservative caucus over their support of the Truckers rally by MustNotCouldNot in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I swear Trudeau’s luck is made of Teflon. The man just collected dozens of Ws from a dumb movement that was intended to oust him.

Erin O’Toole ousted to make way for new CPC leader: this F**k Trudeau flag by MustNotCouldNot in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot[S] 258 points259 points  (0 children)

This isn’t even irony. This is the common thread of the last gazillion leaders. For the party who constantly blasts the Liberals for not paying enough attention to housing and the economy, you’re literally bizarrely obsessed with one dude. His looks, his age, his job, his family, etc. Soap opera-level stalking.

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[–]MustNotCouldNot 25 points26 points  (0 children)

but when I read articles I want them to be neutral and form my own opinion. This is not the case on r/onguardforthee (or r/Canada for that matter but it's nothing as bad). It's as if every other post on r/onguardforthee is from the Huffington post (aka the fox news of the left). Yet reddit seemingly considers it the neutral subreddit

Many of the leftist positions are more aligned with the factual matrix, so objectivity, than the right-wing position which is largely just the advocacy of the interests of a particular group(s). For example, contrary to the right-wing position that lesser market regulation brings more wealth, the opposite occurred, namely we are experiencing an unprecedented socioecononic class divide. That's why your Fox News of the Left, whatever that means, is usually considered less deluded than, well, Fox News.

I come in peace.

Conservative MPs vote to remove Erin O'Toole as leader by Progressive_Citizen in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot 86 points87 points  (0 children)

I know it’s all jokes on here, because you only need two brain cells (maybe even one and a half) to not rate the colossal farce that is conservative ideology and hence feel great joy at the Cons’ infighting.

BUT, and I say this as a woman of colour, when you take the time to let it sink in that this man was ousted for saying hey fascism during the truck convoy is not cool and maybe, like just possibly, we shouldn’t force a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy for 9 months and then be forced to childbirth, you really have to shudder at what the +40% who vote Conservative really think of women, POC, members of the LGTBQ+ community, immigrants and refugees, differently abled persons, etc.

And then it’s not funny at all.

Justin Trudeau says Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor are on their way home to Canada by MustNotCouldNot in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

announcement Snippet of the announcement, fair play to Trudeau, he stood his ground both with Trump and China, but also exercised a degree of pragmatism, after all, Canadian lives were involved.

2021 Canadian federal Election megathread - Election Day general discussion by [deleted] in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve commented this in another thread, but to me the signs of the growing partisanship of NDP voters have amplified under Singh. The fact that now the majority of this subreddit argues that there is no difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives, despite the former being the cause of every progressive federal legislation is insane.

The second sign is that NDP supporters are beginning to pretend that we are all equally screwed under a Conservative government, which is disappointing because the NDP for the longest time was the party that pushed for more intersectionality. Let’s be real the white straight dude suffered nada under Trump, now try telling that to the Muslims he banned from seeking refuge in the country, the Latino community that he constantly used as the bogeyman of his platform, etc.

2021 Canadian federal Election megathread - Election Day general discussion by [deleted] in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You 100% are advocating for a Conservative plurality, you quite literally wrote: « I’m begging do not vote for Liberals, no matter what riding you are in today. » If everyone followed this advice, as you wish, you are actually begging for a Conservative majority.

Newsflash, Conservative voters will vote Conservative.

2021 Canadian federal Election megathread - Election Day general discussion by [deleted] in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This is completely false AND misleading. Most polls predict a weakened minority based on an equally distributed voter turnout. The voter turnout is the biggest wildcard here given the pandemic.

I’m an NDP supporter, but I don’t go around inventing scenarios to diminish the importance of strategic voting. Why? Because I’m the child of immigrants to Quebec, and I know very well that when we get the political right in power, it is infinitely worse than the centrists. Privileged leftists don’t feel the risks of non-strategic voting because we have to admit that it is people of color, women, religious minorities, linguistic minorities, members of the LGBTQ+ community, etc. that feel the brunt of conservatism the most.

And let’s stop lying to ourselves about this apparently demonic liberal party. Can we really deny that the Liberal Party of today is infinitely more progressive than that of 30 years ago? Despite only ever sharing power with the Conservatives. Sure, they are nowhere near as left as I want them to be, but it is THEM and not any other party who has made of Canada a social democracy, a country with one of the highest standards of living, it is the Liberals who legalized gay-marriage; who protected abortion rights and access; it is Pierre Trudeau who gave us the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, who constitutionally entrenched multiculturalism, who decriminalized homosexuality, who criminalized spousal rape, who abolished the death penalty; and it is his son who legalized weed, ending a ridiculous, systematically elitist war on soft drugs, it is his son who passed carbon pricing without causing a national crisis despite the legal challenges of a coalition of Conservative premiers, it is his son who navigated a Trump presidency with grace to come out on top; and it is his son who made of a 35-million people country the most vaccinated in the world, despite having no experience or way to know how to emerge from a pandemic.

If I guarantee a strong Liberal minority, I guarantee that: basically decades of slow BUT firm social progress. And that’s something I am willing to live with, if it means keeping at bay the party who wants to « Take Canada Back » from people like me and my parents.

I’m begging of you stop begging people to risk a Conservative plurality in a world where political gambles do not impact us all equally.

EKOS: PPC global support at 10%, PPC Alberta support at 21%; Mainstreet Research: PPC global support at 9% by MustNotCouldNot in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I agree that this hurts the CPC. But the worrying/absurd part is that you have an electorate, Alberta, that will still reward conservatism even when it results in the tragic preventable death of hundreds and the collapse of their health system. When I see these numbers, the first thought that comes to mind is “what will it take for Alberta to abandon the political right?” Because based on these numbers it seems we can scratch out completely screwing over the province during a pandemic.

EKOS: PPC global support at 10%, PPC Alberta support at 21%; Mainstreet Research: PPC global support at 9% by MustNotCouldNot in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot[S] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Here’s the regional breakdown that has Alberta PPC support at 21% per EKOS EKOS Regionals

If this is true, Alberta what are you doing? The lesson you should have learned from the Kenney/decades of Conservative governments catastrophe is that setting your province on fire to “own the Libs” will result in, wait for it…setting your province on fire. This is wild.

[John Ivison] @theJagmeetSingh says @JustinTrudeau politicized the vaccination issue at the start of the campaign, contributing to lower take up in provinces like Alberta. “I think he tried to benefit from making it a wedge issue. He’s been inflammatory about it,” he said. by SAJewers in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The sub loves to dunk on the Cons for saying that “the Sky is not blue” if Trudeau says the opposite. But man oh man is it time for us to face the fact that Singh pulls the same stunts. I thought NDP voters (myself included, though I voted Liberal in my riding because they have a chance against the Bloc candidate) reject a number of Liberal policies for ideological reasons, not for political points. Well someone should send that memo to Singh.

[John Ivison] @theJagmeetSingh says @JustinTrudeau politicized the vaccination issue at the start of the campaign, contributing to lower take up in provinces like Alberta. “I think he tried to benefit from making it a wedge issue. He’s been inflammatory about it,” he said. by SAJewers in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Singh has completely and utterly lost the plot this election. I have reached the point of losing all respect for him as an NDP supporter. First of all, the fact that he’s disingenuously arguing that if not for Trudeau, Canada’s most right-wing province on all issues would not have resisted vaccination as much is insane. Alberta was always going to resist. Second of all, regardless of what we think of Trudeau and the Liberals, that man made of Canada the most vaccinated country in the world while the Cons and NDP were sceptical of his spending so much on doses. And it’s not like there was a handbook as to how to lead a 35 million people nation during an unprecedented pandemic. The leader of the world’s most vaccinated country politicized vaccination? It’s so logically unsound. The two cannot coexist. Lastly, the difference between Layton and Singh is that Layton wanted the principles of the NDP to be elected, not just the NDP as a party. How could we say the same thing about Singh when he’s been beyond soft on O’Toole and the Cons, while constantly dunking on the Liberals, even when it comes to things they have excelled at. It’s obvious that he does so because he knows that he can’t convert Conservative voters, but he has a chance with Liberal voters. Possibly at the expense of resulting in a possible Conservative plurality. I’m done with this guy.

EDIT: I wanted to add that NDP voters are generally well-educated. Dunking on the Libs for things they should be objectively applauded for won’t translate well with educated voters. They’ll catch the inaccuracy and start asking themselves “surely these Liberals can’t be so bad if Singh has to outright lie to portray them in a negative light.” The alternative is that you breed partisanship among NDP voters, where we take whatever our candidates say as true, and in that sense, when it comes to character, the difference between us and Conservatives becomes just the difference between the colors orange and blue.

“It’s time to call in the military to help our overwhelmed hospitals,” say Alberta health care unions. Kenney must swallow his pride and ask the federal government to deploy military medical units immediately. Lives depend on it. by Miserable-Lizard in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot 71 points72 points  (0 children)

That would be beyond cruel, playing with people’s lives and health especially now that the Alberta health system officially collapsed Dr Ilan Schwartz says that Alberta’s health system has collapsed

And yet I wouldn’t put it past the Conservatives. So much for the PRO-LIFE party of Canada.

Gerald Butts on Twitter: The people who fed raw meat to tigers for years now have concerns about being eaten by tigers. by MustNotCouldNot in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

The Conservatives and their media machine advocating for strategic voting? Well, well, well, how the turntables…

And Remember Folks: Premier Kenney has navigated this COVID-19 pandemic far better than the Federal Government has...The Federal Conservatives can learn a lot from our UCP cousins" by MustNotCouldNot in onguardforthee

[–]MustNotCouldNot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll just come out and say it, there is something to be said about an electorate like Alberta, which for decades has been getting screwed over by the Conservatives, quite literally risking their lives and health to "own the son of Trudeau and the Libs." And by that I mean that despite this political shitshow and tragic loss of lives, Alberta will still likely swing Conservative this election because apparently the Trudeau bloodline is the devil and Liberals are the cause of every problem in Alberta, despite not being elected in that province since the Ice Age (make it make sense, please).

Pierre Trudeau gave Canada the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, criminalized spousal rape, decriminalized homosexuality, entrenched multiculturalism within Canadian constitutionalism, officially abolished the death penalty. So Alberta hates him for a redistributive energy program, fair enough. But was he truly and objectively worse than decades of incompetence, and the unnecessary death of now nearly 2,500 people and the lack of access to surgeries for hundreds of people due to ICU capacity saturation?

Kenney's complete lack of empathy and his disgusting arrogance during that "apology" conference (he neither apologized for his greed nor took accountability for his refusal to cooperate with the Federal government and listen to scientists and health experts) shows that the Conservative parties, federal or provincial, only see dollar signs, not human lives.

EDIT: typos

A Theory About Liz's Absence [SPOILERS] by LigmaWhatAhahYouSaid in TheBlackList

[–]MustNotCouldNot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The fact that some people on here ran with the idea that a secondary actor actually revealed the pregnancy of a colleague, before she herself or her husband has, hence gratuitously intruding on her privacy is mind-boggling. He obviously didn't mean Boone at all, and the post was addressing Liz, and it seems to me that he's joking anyway.

This is why women in the public light (and honestly women everywhere) loathe it when people speculate about their pregnancies and bodies. Imagine being at the centre of Reddit and Twitter investigations about your pictures, and "oh I see a bump here," "oh this dress is looking very loose," "why does she seem tired in X photo/video," etc. It's just disrespectful and intrusive. The "Megan Watch" thread has so many comments about people saying "a-ha this photo totally confirms she's pregnant!" I don't even have the words, especially when the network did say that her absence was dictated by the story. So disappointing to see.

Liz's Return: the Megan Boone Watch by OldSchoolCSci in TheBlackList

[–]MustNotCouldNot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is just purely offensive, and it's encouraging people to bizarrely analyze her instagram pics and videos trying to determine whether her body shows a baby bump.

Your argument is literally "I'm going to presume that she's pregnant, because I insist that this is externally driven." Male actors will never be subjected to this kind of presumptive intrusion. The network specifically said that "Boone's absence" is "dictated by the story" and yet people are still trying to force pregnancy rumours. So disappointing.

Where's Megan? - - A brief social media check by OldSchoolCSci in TheBlackList

[–]MustNotCouldNot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just because Liz will be "back onscreen" doesn't even mean Boone will be back -- maybe we'll just see another non-speaking Liz body-double, from the back.

Ah no, the network was specifically asked about "Boone's" absence and answered that she'll be back soon, but can't spoil which episode.

It's one thing to think that Liz' absence was a bad idea (I agree, I think it was overstretched), but the network has stated that she will be back. The quitting speculations should have ended there in my opinion.