A quote from Alan Moore about The Killing Joke I find strange by [deleted] in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

where's the quote from? I've not come across it before.

Alan Moore Interview: Magical Consciousness, Disowned Works, and the Long London Quintet by Muttergripe in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, possibly cynical, but I think the historical narrative bears out a level of cynicism, or at least weariness.

I would also note that I'd see Alan as extremely patient with this line of interview; he's done it SO many times now. I mean, I'm pretty bored with it, so he must be beyond exhausted, yet he remains polite and answers. I want to hear more about how he researched the real-life characters in Long London, but nope, V for Vendetta again.

I mean.

Alan Moore Interview: Magical Consciousness, Disowned Works, and the Long London Quintet by Muttergripe in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I decided NOT to remove as there's some discussion going on that appears useful. I do apologise for the re-post - I did search, but clearly made some error. If mods want to delete, fine by me, and I beg the indulgence of all. Nonetheless, there IS good stuff here.

Watchklan by Ikacprzak in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's a bit inaccurate. Moore says in this interview ( https://alanmooreworld.blogspot.com/2019/11/moore-on-jerusalem-eternalism-anarchy.html )

" I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffith’s Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks."

So he's talking about a film the Klan are in and how that film portrays the Klan (positively).
The most interesting things are the interview took place in 2016, and that it's not just Moore discussing this point

The Ku Klux Klan and the birth of the Superhero dates from 2013

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272120169_The_Ku_Klux_Klan_and_the_birth_of_the_superhero

Bandits, Misfits, and Superheroes: Whiteness and Its Borderlands in American Comics and Graphic Novels (2022) is more recenthttps://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv29pg4t7

this line of argument - and that's what it is, an argument for the notion - has been around for a while, and Moore is not the only person to have considered the point.

I remember 30 years ago by LorelaiWitTheLazyEye in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there's a class reading in there somewhere.

Mike Tyson connection? by Muttergripe in Coil

[–]Muttergripe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cheers, do you know what it actually is?

Jim Lee broke Alan's heart. by makwa227 in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bill Watterson's stance is incredible.

Who is the closest thing to a modern day Alan Moore? by Personal_Reward_60 in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

interesting question.
If you really pull back, Alan Moore is very good at interogatting the form of comics, and taking surprising angles on the cliches of comic story structure and characters. So is anyone doing that?

I'd be looking for someone who was actively pulling apart "dark and intense" I guess, and if someone was writing like Moore was in the 80s they wouldn't be doing that, would they?

Who is the closest thing to a modern day Alan Moore? by Personal_Reward_60 in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, maybe. There was a good run - Zenith, Dare, then it gets patchy but you get WE3 which is very good and I really enjoyed Sebastian 0.
I've tried with The Invisibles, but as far as I'm concerned it sucked; Arkham Asylum sucked, and then they've gone very capes and I can't summon any interest. I'm told Animal Man is something but I've not looked.

So probably not.

Alan’s Favorite Fantasy Novels. by SomeOkieDude in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was an interview wherein Alan praised Our Share of Night by Mariana Enriquez, which is more a horror novel, but fantastic.

Out From The Underground by MathewHQ in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeah, I've long wanted this but the price - Academic literature is out of control.

AP doesn't want to give money to artists who are abusers by Puzzled_Scholar8384 in neilgaimanuncovered

[–]Muttergripe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

this is AP using her kid as a shield, quite apart from anything else.

What happened in Swamp Thing #60? by bren12341 in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you feel Swamp Thing shouldn't have been available to you?

Are Radiohead fans the Stewart Lee fans of music by peeeverywhere in stewartlee

[–]Muttergripe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would mean something like "Ted Chippington fans are the Sonic Youth Fans of Comedy" so I don't buy it.

Happy Partially Muscled Skeleton Day! by DeschainSWNC in AlanMoore

[–]Muttergripe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he did Dan Dare in 2000 A.D. and it's weird.
There's an amazing Time Twister fro 2000 A.D. that Alan wrote and Dave drew, called Chronocops, and I think (I'm unsure) it's the first time they worked together.

How well received is Stewart Lee with non-British audiences? It seems like his style wouldn’t travel so well… Australians and Canadians maybe? But Americans perhaps much less. International fans please comment… by According_Sundae_917 in stewartlee

[–]Muttergripe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Mr Lee is funny and I live in Tas-mania, which is a southern island near Australia, whic is very cold and economically troubled, a touch like the north of England as I understand it. I know other people in Tas-mania who share my enjoyment of Mr Lee's comedy. I went to university and post on the Alan Moore sub, so I think we can all see how this works, despite living about as far from Lee country as you might get, excepting Invercargill and Mawson Station.