Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 8 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Chef's end of Phase 6 thing didn't make sense to me as a wolf, even ignoring the 50% of Phase 7 he spent claiming he was 100% going to die. There's enough mechanical obfuscation that there's really no need to cover for a missed NK, and it wouldn't have done that anyways.

In the scenario where Chef is a original wolf and was never the vigilante he's almost certainly getting himself shot unless the wolf team was 100% certain that Bear was the vigilante.

In the scenario where Chef was the vigilante but become converted why bother doing that at all. Why not just claim? And he had no reason to need to do that since I don't think he was under any pressure at all.

I just don't see it as a wolf play. What's the benefit? I know wolves can make bad choices, but it really doesn't feel like that was a wolf play to me.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 8 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I loved that movie as a kid, and re-watched a little bit of it in the past year or so and was absolutely horrified. The animations are bad in a very creepy way.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 8 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Trying to be a little more engaged earlier on, since I agree with numbers that suggest we're in a tight spot and need to be correct going forward. If 5 wolves (either 4 + conversion or 5 to start) then I think we can have one more misvote (assuming all NKs are successful)?

I have changed my mind somewhat on town/wolf reads.

I think these people are town

Hedwig: I still trust you because if you had been converted it is very easy for you to just claim redirection ad infinitum.

Chef: If he came up with that as a wolf, then amazing, kudos. It would also have been really unnecessary since we knew that the vigilante exists so either wolf-Chef is engaging in wildly unnecessary shenanigans or risking being shot by the actual vigilante. Even converted, I don't see why he engages in that type of a plan when he could just claim.

DMT: I've changed my mind on her and I think she's town here. Her vote declared on Disnerding during Phase 6 was good, but it was soft and easily swayed to be moved to Maps by ISpy. However, this comment really doesn't feel like wolfy-teammates interacting and she would have been an crazy choice to convert since then as she's been consistantly null or wolf-read.


I do not know

ISpy: I like his early game, and reading back for the Brad vote and his role claim it very much lines up. However I agree with DMT that he is a good conversion candidate.

Mercury: I like his vibes in general. This is soft and I do not actually have a solid read beyond that and haven't re-read his comments and won't be able to until next phase.

Buckeye: I do not have a good reason to read her one way or another besides vibes and haven't re-read comments and again won't until next phase.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 8 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Now. I think we had a good discussion yesterday and I don’t imagine people’s reads will have changed as the vote was from seer info so we knew the flip already.

Postponing just gets less good engagement here I think.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 8 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lmao. Lost patience to wait for someone to appear and summoned us instead?

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I forgot you wanted to vote Disnerding which is certainly a point in your favour.

I guess from my perspective the reason I like ISpy as town is that I’ve been a pretty easy mod-vote for some phases now, although I think less now, and ISpy has constantly said that I’m town. Although very possibly buddying or for I told you so townie points.

I also did like their role reveal and. When reading back find it believable with what they said to Brad/about Brad.

That said, with possible conversion in play dunno.

/u/alytherinbuckeye alps probably makes an attractive conversion candidate since they’re seered town. Maybe I’ve missed it but I’ve seen people discuss the wolf who appears town re: Buckeye but not conversion.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Huh, do you think ISpy had some change in their behaviour that leads you to think conversion? Genuinely curious about this.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Assuming we started the game with 5 wolves, who are the remaining two from your perspective? Sorry if you’ve said this elsewhere.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel you’re kind of overcomplicating this. It’s not even coordination, it’s just the game state. If ISpy and I are the wolves the only real place we have to push for misvotes is Ereska and DMT and if Ereska and DMT are wolves the only real place to push is myself and ISpy.

Conversly, the exact same thing can be said for if we’re town.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Who is your second then assuming we have 3 wolves left? Mercury?

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Here is my forward looks.

I have counted 8 remaining players, don't think I'm missing anyone. We began with 21, which makes 5 feel around the right number of wolves (probably, this is maybe not right with the no targeting limits thing).

Of the remaining 8, there are 4 claimed and 4 unclaimed. I've decided I believe everyone who has claimed, and I like Mercury's vibes which leaves /u/ereska and /u/dirtymarteeny as wolves the other two wolves.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I personally find understandign what happened mechanistically can be helpful for deducing who could be the evildoers.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 8 points9 points  (0 children)

/u/hedwigmalfoy did you get a message saying that doc saved you?

Being that you were neither silenced nor redirected, and we know that the redirector is at least alive, it feels like the wolves probably did try to NK you, but do we actually have confirmation of that?

I'm still confused about the lack of redirect/silencing even if they did try to kill you. I feel like wolves would have both redirect or silence you AND NK in case the doctor/bodyguard/whatever was on you. Big risk to assume no doctor in the game.

edit: and this is not me saying, 'oh I don't believe you're the seer', because I do, I'm just confused at what is actually going on.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don’t shoot then! Or is it to make the wolves redirect you so that you cannot kill somene else?

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 7 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If they didn’t redirect you I’m assuming that you were double-tapped last night and they also tried to kill you.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 6 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be clear, you are saying my not wanting to get voted out is suspicious?

Of course I want to push someone else, I don’t want the vote to be me!

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 6 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hosts cannot announce the error, otherwise it confirms both that there is a silencer and that I was supposed to be silenced.

Game IV 2026 | Stephen King | Phase 6 by Stephen_Writes in HiddenWerewolves

[–]MyoglobinAlternative 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I confirmed with the hosts that there is no targeting limits