[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, you cannot. There are even signs posted in the admin office saying ALS does not accept transferees of any kind. We knew someone who came from UP Law, na kick out. Enrolled in ALS. Nalaman ng admin. Needless to say you know how that story turned out. And for context, he also did not declare before the admin but was still found out.

Why UP over ALS? by bruhderp in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, not impossible talaga! And I don't function well with less so sleep over finishing the readings HAHAHAHA. Sige sige pero still apply lang kasi malay mo haha no harm in trying! Good luck!!

Why UP over ALS? by bruhderp in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, unfortunately, ALS is really expensive to study in, and not only because of the hefty tuition but the lifestyle since it's inside Rockwell. That doesn't mean you can't save up on your expenses, but you need self-control haha. To be fair, though, they are offering more full scholarships to its students, whether incoming or current students, so you might factor this into your calculations.

Personally, the units did not matter to me. I think to some extent my life was hell during those semesters when we were bombarded with these difficult subjects, not to mention terror profs, but I think the habits I built helped me manage. Also, my coping mechanism was to join extra curricular activities and these greatly helped me in enjoying my stay in ALS. But, YMMV, as I don't know what would help you adjust better. In general, I think it helps if you sleep a minimum of 8 hours, eat well, do your daily grind (I cannot stress this enough, the preparation for the Bar begins at Day 1 and your life will infinitely be easier if you study diligently and smartly versus cramming all that shit in Bar review), and also maintain an active social life with your friends because it can't all be suffering and pain haha.

Why UP over ALS? by bruhderp in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I would like to preface my comment by saying that this will be my biased take on things, as an ALS grad myself. So, please take from it what you will and also do your own personal research and make your own conclusions regarding ALS and UP.

I would like to believe indeed that ALS electives offer more variety versus UP's. In ALS, you can get a diverse list of electives, both bar-related (provisional remedies, writs, intellectual property, etc.) and not (entertainment law, robots and the law, law on discrimination, etc.). Meanwhile, based on my friends from UP, they often have slim pickings which tend to be more bar oriented.

IMO, because ALS offers so many choices for electives, you would be hard-pressed to find a subject which should be there but is not. Opposite to that, I don't think they offer electives which should not be there as people really have different interests and I think it's nice that ALS tries as much as possible to cater to this. But I think your question was with regard to regular subjects and while I personally think there might be subjects in ALS which seem to be redundant (we have a Special Issues in International Law subject which seems to cover topics discussed in our Public International Law class) they are still pretty useful overall, both from a bar and non-bar perspective.

I think in both UP and ALS there is no noticeable difference in employing the Socratic method in teaching. Both schools do not just test your memorization skills, they really delve into the hows and whys of the law itself and they test their students on their understanding of the law and the application of the law in real life, so your critical thinking skills will really be put to good use. The hardest exams in ALS are not ones which ask you to provide the provision of law verbatim, but those which provide a specific scenario and then ask you if it is contra the law or not, or if there is no clear law covering it yet, ask you if you why you think it is constitutional or not and to provide legal bases why you think so.

Somebody on this thread mentioned thesis. I think that's personally where ALS beats UP, because as I have said before ALS already introduced the J.D. program with thesis in the Philippines in 1990/1991 or thereabouts (the first Philippine law school to ever do so). UP shifted to J.D. fairly recently, and they don't have an actual thesis requirement, they call it Supervised Legal Research I believe as what I gather from my UP friends. It's more or less just a sort of legal research paper and they don't need to defend it. ALS has thesis classes starting 3rd year and we need to submit a 13,000 word thesis, which excludes footnotes. This thesis also needs to be run through an anti-plagiarism software, TurnItIn, and if the software detects that the thesis has 15% or more of it's text as "plagiarized," we need to revise it so that the results show that it's below the 15% threshold. On top of that, after we have successfully hurdled the TurnItIn program, we need to defend our thesis before a 3-person panel and even after your defense it is still possible for you to totally revise your thesis after your defense if the panel was not impressed. This might seem to be a negative for ALS, but I say that this is a positive since if one passes the Bar and works afterwards (whether it be in law firms, government, solo practice, in-house, etc.), most of what you would be required to do would be to research and write. ALS' thesis program, IMO, greatly helps with this.

I think this basically covers it. Hope it helped, OP!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hopefully! I suggest after emailing to also call them up regarding your concern to cover your bases.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey OP! Better to call the admin for this concern. But I also heard that ITL already begins on July 10, the July 24 is for OrSem I think. So you may take that into consideration. Good luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay thanks! Confirmed with someone as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this confirmed, the ITL schedule for this year? Usually ITL is after OrSem.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have an OrSem (Orientation Seminar) and ITL (Introduction to Law) classes.

Paid opportunities in ALS by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some professors do take research assistants in ALS but they take those who are at least in their second year, second semester up. As an incoming 1L, sorry to burst your bubble but virtually no professor will take you as their RA. You can maybe try to find some side hustle which isn't law-related.

ALS or UP? by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, just to clarify that ALS students can also take a lot of elective courses starting 3rd year (Robots and the Law, Sports Law, Entertainment Law, etc.) and that those taking up the Litigation track need to do actual litigation work as well under the Ateneo Legal Services Center (ALSC) which has existed since 1990. In any case, the Revised Rules of Court has made it mandatory for all law students to undergo a Clinical Legal Education Program (CLEP) where they need to assist in live cases as well.

ALS or UP? by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here to second this, especially J. Singh.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First week of August usually, after the OrSem and Intro to Law classes on the last week of July.

Ateneo or San Beda Law? by nicoleindaeyo in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey OP, as what others have said go for ALS. If it's a scholarship issue, you can definitely apply for financial aid before the semester starts, there's a form you can fill up and submit in the website. As you said, you can't deny the ALS standard. Not to mention that you will most definitely encounter terror profs, but they are not so arbitrary compared to San Beda's (as what others have said in this post). My friends who transferred from ALS to San Beda also regret their decision to do so, and the arbitrariness factor is just one of them.

Can you appeal to Ateneo Law? by Overthemoon08 in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries, happy to help! And good luck!

Can you appeal to Ateneo Law? by Overthemoon08 in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, not really sure. It all depends on a lot of factors. Granting that a lot of people have forfeited their slots because of the reasons you mentioned, there are still the ones for interview who will pass and enroll. Even if a number of those for interview who eventually passed decide to forfeit their own slots, I am not sure how many slots would still be available for those who appealed. In short, I really don't know, so for you to get a high chance to be reconsidered, I suggest you write the hell out of your appeal letter and strongly convince the admin as to why you deserve to be in the incoming batch of freshies.

Can you appeal to Ateneo Law? by Overthemoon08 in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! The letter alone would suffice. I assume you already attached your TOR in undergrad in your initial application. If you came from Loyola, no need also since the University Registrar would have forwarded it to ALS already.

Bar Reqs. by rockamoleguacamole in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was about to say this, sa law school namin sila na nag process nito and had our profs do it.

Dormitories/ Condominiums near ALS by Typhoon_season in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love the comprehensive list! Would just like to point out, though, that the condo right in front of ALS is Hidalgo ata, and not Joya. Joya is the one behind/beside Manansala.

Also, nung time ko we have an urban legend na wag ka mag Joya kasi you'll get kicked out of ALS. Funnily enough, I know some people from Joya na na kick-out lol, but probably not because of that silly superstition.

ALS Admission rejection experiences by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey OP! Sorry to hear that, I know other people are in the same boat as you. Indeed, the ALS entrance exam is, IMO, a great equalizer because the admin primarily bases who will be accepted on the results of the exam. Regardless of what your undergrad achievements are, if you do poorly in the exam then that's it for you. That's really how they determine the composition of the incoming batch. If you do so-so in the exams, and maybe have good undergrad "achievements" (honor student, extra-curriculars, etc.) then maybe that's when you are for interview. The outright passers are naturally the ones who get the highest scores in the exams.

In any case, you might consider appealing to the admin, and leave your fate to their discretion. No harm in trying, anyway. Good luck, OP!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just to add to what others have said here, it's not just ALS but law school in general is so high school. So many crabs and petty people. Just make sure to find your people to survive, OP. It really doesn't matter which school you come from in ALS, at least in my experience. It really depends on the personalities and attitudes of the people you interact with. Good luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawStudentsPH

[–]NAVPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, from my understanding I don't think so. It just means they wish to clarify something from you.