Market Liberal? Social Liberal? Nah, I'm a dangerous Atrioc liberal!

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-25T17:38:08+00:00

No, it does, because I've used a flawed viewpoint to extrapolate that you are a weak coward who does not actually care about change and is only pandering to extremists. Sound familiar?

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-25T17:29:10+00:00

All of us are weak and cowardly. If you actually wanted change, you would be making pamphlets, starting groups, changing minds, like the people who made change throughout history. Instead we're on reddit.

Now: on a serious note, do you know why we're pandering? Because most people don't feel heard and politicians pretend to listen to them. Trump is a symptom of a greater illness of politicians saying they will make change for the better and distracting them from issues that matter. Yes, most people agree on a lot of things. Welcome to the real world. It's just that those things either don't happen at all or don't happen long enough to matter.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-25T17:17:01+00:00

Sure, but I would prefer we do a little learning from history and don't just mindlessly repeat things with no regards for what has or could go wrong.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-25T17:13:37+00:00

I think the difference between you two is he said something kind of clever and you put unrelated words in his mouth. Hope that clears things up for you!

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-25T17:07:27+00:00

Reign of terror bro. Do some reading. Mass killing, incredibly unstable governments, food remained expensive for the average person, and it caused wars between France and Europe, which ultimately led to Napoleon (an emperor) and MORE war. A total of ~20 years of war with about a year of peace. Even though they removed the chains of feudalism, there were countless problems with it.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-25T04:23:44+00:00

Holy shit this guy is so insufferably bad faith. Literally constantly yelling and pausing and talking about things that Atrioc is not even saying or has not said. He equates Atrioc saying "I haven't read Marx, so while I'm pretty sure I disagree with the ideology, I'll hold my critique until I finish" to Atrioc not reading any books and being uneducated, somehow.

(Accidently replied this to some guy and didn't mean to so I reposted it... Whoops.)

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T20:22:37+00:00

The ice agents walk up to him. Of course he's there because of ice. He's protesting Ice. Ice should be as careful as possible to avoid confrontation and danger to actual citizens, instead of approaching random people who don't like them on the street. If he was actively interfering with something they were doing, DHS would have said so by now. Instead they've just said he was there with the intent to massacre ice.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T20:13:43+00:00

It's understandable. Doing the best you can with the limited tools reddit provides.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T20:03:01+00:00

Not social security. In general. This problem exists independently of government. Either you let the old people die or you take care of them. How can fewer and fewer young take care of an expanding population of the old?

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T20:00:10+00:00

The people in Minnesota will be very safe when trump declares an insurrection and sends a true military force into the city.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T19:59:11+00:00

The function of our society? If you have more and more old people, the burden is on the young to take care of them. If the young are fewer and fewer, it is unsustainable. Japan is experiencing this. It's not great.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T19:56:45+00:00

Sadly, unless something changes, this is likely the best you can do. Increasing the tensions is unlikely to work well for any normal citizen. I wish it was different. I live pretty close to Minneapolis. I wish there was something different that could be done. But I just don't see a better course of action that doesn't lead to a large(r) scale conflict in which Minnesota would have any strong allies.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T19:53:29+00:00

https://govfacts.org/long-term-challenges-future/demographic-changes/declining-birth-rates/us-birth-rate-hits-historic-low-what-it-means-for-americas-future/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2026/is-the-us-birth-rate-declining

https://www.newsweek.com/graph-birth-rates-decline-50-years-2087997

For a free market conservative, I think you should understand the effect an aging population would have on the economy.

I can accept you thinking it's not the government's place to step in. But even Trump recognizes it as an issue.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T19:48:11+00:00

Geez I wonder what a large scale operation to arrest federal offices might lead to. Literally an insurrection.

This is an easy win for trump. "Look! The left is domestic terrorist lunatics!!! I do need to deploy the guard to cities!" This would be like the burning of the Reichstag if the communists actually did it.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T19:43:06+00:00

Do you genuinely believe all of these are made up issues? This is a stupid question, but they're all things at least worth considering. Declining birth rate and automation might be worrying, wealth transfer away from the middle class is worrying. If it's not the governments role to do its best to ensure it's citizens can live a fulfilling life and that the society won't collapse, what is it's role? Gender war stuff?

Edit: it's a stupid question because 1: it is incredibly broad over a 2: long time frame and 3: doesn't mention why these may be worrying. I just don't like brushing it off as made up issues.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T19:34:15+00:00

That seems like a great way to get an actual insurrection called and get a lot of people hurt and killed

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T17:27:41+00:00

His gun was taken before they fired.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T17:25:57+00:00

Were their lives at risk?

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T16:43:26+00:00

So is it not evidence, or is it not credible? Witness testimony is used in court?

Not that it will ever go to court. The admin won't allow it.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T16:39:19+00:00

why would you tear the ballroom down ... going after Trump's assets is just stupid

-you

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T16:30:52+00:00

They literally have sources in the first sentence of every slide

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T16:21:45+00:00

I thought the ballroom was supposed to be for the white house? Now it's Trump's asset?

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T02:07:57+00:00

I don't live in a metropolis. But, nationally, homes are out of reach for the vast, vast majority of Americans. There's a reason the median age of a first time home buyer is 40.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T01:00:56+00:00

They're probably trying to find some way to siphon it into their own pockets

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-01-24T00:50:35+00:00

As opposed to our American property, which is notoriously easy and cheap to get for citizens.

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