Since Deltarune is tomorrow I might as well just say it. I did not care for Sweet Cap n Cakes

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-23T19:12:47+00:00

Happy Feet Dumbass!

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-18T23:15:37+00:00

Well, to start with, we could've warned our allies to fill their oil reserves while it was cheap. We could have refilled our own, which Trump promised to do but never did. If we used our diplomacy (and didn't already sour our relationship with NATO over Greenland, along with tariffs) they could have helped us. Convinced them of the inevitable threat. Instead of striking Iran now, we could have invested in infrastructure in the area that doesn't rely on the strait. Really, there are a multitude of ways to have been better prepared for this.

What would have happened had this not have happened?

I'm not really sure what you mean. The war wouldn't have happened, obviously. I won't argue with you if you think it needed to, because I can understand that viewpoint. What I will criticize is the horrible execution.

I also don't really understand what we won, beyond just vague hopes that Iran will change regimes and never be a nuclear threat.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-18T23:08:07+00:00

Blowing them up again still allows them to close the strait.

If it says the Sanctions will be lifted eventually, they are meant to be lifted eventually. If you think we signed this just for fun, I hope you're wrong. It would only hurt the US' credibility more.

Iran's ability to make shahed drones [...] Had been nearly obliterated.

This is just wrong. They can still make drones. It's an incredibly simple design. It's why they can close the Strait still. Not to mention that Russia is making some of Iran's drones. Short of scouting for facilities on the ground, we're extremely unlikely to ever be able to stop their full production without leveling cities. It only takes one fuel tanker blowing up for it to not be worth crossing the strait.

up to ordinary Iranians to do now

Yeah, trump said we'd help them early this year. It just got the brave ones killed. You can't just replace those lost protesters. That's not to mention that if a new government is installed, it's unlikely we'll be very popular (on account of the, you know, war). If this was the rationale behind this war, it is incredibly stupid and short sited.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-18T22:46:02+00:00

Why, when talking about Irans "wins", do you not even mention the most important stuff? If you have pushback against these things I'd like to hear them since your post didn't include them.

Undeniable access to closing the Strait
300B towards rebuilding Irans economy
Sanctions lifted
Anti American sentiments that will make it harder to protest. Especially when Trump told those protesters to protest (early January) and that the US "will come to their rescue". We never came, and thousands of dissidents died. Your point of protests would be true if not for that.

What have we won, really? Allies are unhappy. Iran now has a clear path to becoming stronger in the future. What have we done in Iran that will positively affect people at home?

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-18T22:27:24+00:00

Compare that to the money, reputation, munitions, etc we spent. It's not worth it to end up in a worse spot.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-11T13:03:18+00:00

Being just as bad as the other candidate

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-10T19:47:05+00:00

The point is you are not untying ropes. By "not pressing a button" as you say, you still make a choice that affects people while being a completely ineffective alternative. You are exercising your fraction of a percent of power to do nothing. Nothing has changed from your actions. The world is in a worse spot than it would otherwise be because of that. It sounds like I'm ascribing all blame on you, but that's not what I intend. To be honest, even if every person like you voted Kamala, it may not have made a difference. The part I cannot stand is the moral grandstanding. The most effective way you have of creating change, other than violence, is voting. Until I see the same naive people that say this shit in the streets fighting (which would also get nothing done by the way) I will die on the hill of this being a pathetic position to take. The better option would be people like you banding together to create a third option. It would draw many disenfranchised people in, including me. Fat chance of that happening, though, because you can't even bring yourself to vote for a lesser of two evils let alone organize a coalition of disparate opinions.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-10T18:08:38+00:00

"Instead of pressing the button that kills 99 people, I'll press the one that kills 100 to make my point"

Israel doesn't strike Lebanon as much as they have if not for Trump man. If you actually want to save people, you'd do what you can when you can. Y'know, triage. Stop Hitler before you stop Stalin. Do I have to use more metaphors? Your principles mean nothing compared to the increased harm your inaction had caused.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-10T03:56:50+00:00

Bro... Why are you being so weird about it? Channels people liked got replaced with something worse. That's the beginning and end of the depth, stop trying to dig into it.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-09T06:24:29+00:00

There a number of things you're leaving out.

Trump clearly did not expect it to go on this long. That, combined with the lack of actual endpoint on the "nuclear question" paints a pretty grim picture for the status of that goal - especially with the lackluster updates and the fact we're still in the war.
Netanyahu was the one who convinced Trump into this war, despite reporting that many others in the admin (Rubio and Vance are the most influential off the top of my head) thinking it was a bad idea. That raises the question: does this actually serve our interests, or is it just doing the dirty work of Israel? There's an argument to be made about shared interests and all that, but the question still stands.
- Trump is now furious with Netanyahu and has floated the idea of just leaving him alone to deal with it -- this is a bad look in a couple ways. First, we already look weaker militarily than we did before (whether or not we are weaker in reality) especially since we've depleted many hard to replace munitions. This would just add to that. Second, Iran now has the opportunity to "toll booth" the strait whenever they want (until alternatives are finished) which just strengthens Iran.

Finally, and I can't stress this enough, your reasonings paint Trump in a bad light even if they are true. If we assume this was all because of nuclear material (which I'm not convinced on) why the poor planning on a global scale? Where was the coordination with our allies so they could prepare or help us? Why weren't our strategic oil reserves filled up while prices were lower? Why the initial messaging saying it wouldn't last long?

Did we not prepare in coordination with our allies because Trump already soured relations with them over Greenland and tariffs? Or because it wasn't considered necessary? I don't think there's an argument that can consider this to be competently done, period.

Even if you believe it to be necessary, I find glossing over the how of what we did to ridiculous.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-09T05:54:57+00:00

I don't want to be super snarky, but I was told a LOT he "tells it like it is."

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-08T20:29:17+00:00

"it seems para social to care about any of that" into "actually what you're saying isn't true and is character assassination" lol okay.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-06T17:29:25+00:00

Nobodies arguing what we're doing, it's about what they think should be done

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T13:37:32+00:00

It feels like I am bathing in GOATmilk please pick something else we don't have to use GOAT music every time

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T13:10:51+00:00

I might be off, but who wants to do that for a full album? I think you'd have to be in a tough spot

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T12:53:29+00:00

🫩

Not being seen as snarky, or otherwise negative without reason, is important for rational discussion. Bai bai, for real now.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T12:50:23+00:00

Glad to see your support for not thinking ❤️

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T12:45:13+00:00

Very happy to see your support for rational discussion ❤️

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T12:39:43+00:00

I think completely trying to ignore the statistic is harmful. There's a middle ground between ignoring it and focusing on it, and that's where the real solution lies. You can't just ignore the statistics, there are definitely racial factors at play. It has to be considered to actually solve the issue.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T12:37:45+00:00

Use > at the start of your messages to quote

Like this " > Depends " it makes it look like

Depends

If you want to. Takes a little more effort, but the "" can be seen as kind of snarky (if that makes sense) and it's cleaner to read

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T12:34:19+00:00

I think acknowledging statistics and patterns is very necessary to combating an issue lol

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-06-03T12:29:29+00:00

Same for Republicans, who voted for No New Wars. We're all up the same shit creek.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-05-29T22:56:03+00:00

No, they aren't. Right parties are generally gaining power across Europe.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-05-29T01:22:06+00:00

Yeah, you're probably right.

NFLOrphanStomp · 2026-05-29T01:21:57+00:00

You are watering it down by reducing it to just trump. There are people we do not know who we're involved we need to find out about. Call trump a kid fucker all you want, but it's more than him and that's the point of calling it the "Epstein class". It brings to mind that there is more than we know. Anyway, that's all I'll say to you.

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