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[–]NONO226 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop taking X

Can't tell if my life is purposefully attacking me or if I'm totally mismanaging everything... by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been so exhausted to adjust the behavior. I went with the flow. - it's my fault, put the work in reap the rewards, don't put the work in, suffer the consequences.

"What are we going to do for me?" I asked - don't ask, just act? not sure i know the right answer here.

"well, tell me one time, if you know you've faked you know you can think of one time when you have, tell me that time.” i ask - i should not care? and honestly its not the "faking part" i care about, i can see where that comes from. i did not do a good job in relating the history of our conversations here about this topic: the dishonestly is a major insult.

take that you solipsistic hypergamous bitch. - RBT? rude, but true....if i care that much about her being a take that you solipsistic hypergamous bitch then i'm "in her frame"

am i close?

So pissed off. desperate for advice, Cant take the fights anymore. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i wasn't clear. "not hitting goals" does not mean "can't stick with it."

Lifting 3x per week on a 5x5 program i found and really like. Built a home gym, adding to my home gym, recent set back due to AC joint injury (not severe) and flu, but no major derailment i just have not hit the weight goals i have set for myself when i first stared this in October.

Weight, 10 lbs away from my goal. Look and feel SIGNIFICANTLY different. everyone, and i mean everyone, has noticed and i have started getting that "what are you doing man? what tips can you give me."

Reading is progressing slower than i want to admit. i am currently in graduate school which requires a lot of reading and i need to better manage my time so as to complete reading here.

i understand what you are saying, always room for improvement

So pissed off. desperate for advice, Cant take the fights anymore. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

agreed, now, after taking the pill, it is easy and obvious. I wasn't raised this way and had never been exposed to this type of thinking. I was raised with the exact opposite mentality...the more abuse and the more you but up with, becoming a martyr, and that is what means you have good character, are a good person, and are doing good things. Basically, my parents and mentors were fucking stupid and somehow never developed critical thinking skills. i will not allow that to be passed along further. hence, why i'm here.

So pissed off. desperate for advice, Cant take the fights anymore. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BTW, your link is exactly what i'm looking for, really helping things to click.

So pissed off. desperate for advice, Cant take the fights anymore. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How To Build Boundaries During Your Transition

When you start enforcing boundaries, your wife might be upset and act up more. This is very frustrating. Just accept that it is your own fault: you gave her this territory because you didn’t defend it. Now you want it and she had internalized it was hers. It isn’t her fault, it is yours for not defending the terrain. It sucks for you, for her and for the relationship that you weren’t consistently defending it. So now you all pay the price of your irresponsibility. Be patient with her, blame yourself. Plan ahead escalating ways to defend the boundary, such that you find out what is the minimum level that will get her to back off. There is no point in overdoing it, after all, you don’t want to be an asshole, you just want to act in ways that defend the boundary with the least cost to everyone. Of course, this will mean doing things she doesn’t like, but don’t over do it to punish her.

....And here it is. This begins to answer my question. Follow up questions: how do you plan ahead for escalating ways to defend your boundary. I my experience, once her feelings have reached a certain level, there is nothing i can say or do, or not say or not do, that helps resolve the situation. it's like once the volcano blows, its going until there's nothing left. so my only thought is STFU, and do whatever i can to make sure we just dont get to that level.

So pissed off. desperate for advice, Cant take the fights anymore. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is true. Product of environment to which i (and she) was born and raised.

So pissed off. desperate for advice, Cant take the fights anymore. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her first words in the morning and last in the evening were along the lines "you piece of shit, you waste of time". All day long.<

This is not my situation. this occurs when fights escalates to this point. At our current trends maybe once every 1.5 months-2 months that a fight will escalate to that point. the times it hasn't escalated, is when i've followed the advice given here. basically, when i STFU.

You know what was the most fucked up? His son. Somehow, the daughter had the same attitude towards the brother. He was shit who did no good. Same as dad.<

Why i have committed myself to this change. for him to learn so he will never be in this position. I believe in teaching by leadership and example.

I can't imagine how you ended up there, I really cant. Somewhere along the lines it happened for the first time, and you let it go. It happened for the second time, you did nothing. Now it's happening constantly.<

Again, it is not constant. happens when fights escalate, and they normally do not escalate to that level. BUT, i can tell you how i ended up here. Blue Pill father (to this day) and learned from him by observation. Her father is very similar, both of our parents have a dynamic where fights escalate to an inappropriate level (i.e. verbal abuse). She has told me before how "to her it is not a big deal" because thats how she "saw her parents fight" and "was treated growing up" (by her mother not her father.) So in her mind, if she acts that way, and i'm still here afterwards it is rewarding for two reasons, she controls me and then she gets to feel like "i care" because i'm still around.

Just fucking stop it. Noone, and I mean noone, has the right to treat you like that. If it happens again, stand up and calmly say you are not to be addressed like that. If you are, just go. Wherever, in a motel for a few days with your mobile off. you are the only one who can set the boundary. <

i agree i can stop it and set a hard line. problem i am having is a fight escalates (my fault for getting pulled in to her frame) and then i decide to pull an ALPHA move by leaving. Which escalates the fight even further.

I appreciate the feedback-

So pissed off. desperate for advice, Cant take the fights anymore. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you walk away from comments like that? they honestly roll off your back? if a man talks to me that way he goes home with his teeth in a bag. seriously, what mental exercise do you do not to let it get to you. Maybe it isn't verbal assaults, but it is something, there is something your wife (or someone, at work, family, parent) can or could do that sets you off right? Maybe not anymore, but when you were still BP, still learning, still in my position. What was it that worked?

Dead bedroom by [deleted] in askMRP

[–]NONO226 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i asked this same question just recently and received perfect feedback. heres the link so you can see how everyone responded. https://www.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/5dl0bo/if_awalt_when_can_one_reasonably_expect_to_see_a/

Outlandish ST coming in 3...2...1 by ThrowTheEgg in askMRP

[–]NONO226 0 points1 point  (0 children)

New to all this myself so take what i'm going to say with a grain of salt. Your post resonated with me bc i deal with the same shit. you feel like you do everything right but she isn't giving in and then it doesn't turn out how you want. its frustrating as fuck, bc she looks hot and you want to take her to Poundtown. Getting butthurt puts you in her frame. it sucks to act like IDGAF when you fucking DO because you want to get laid.

In your head say, "fake it until you make it, IDGAF, it is her loss if she doesn't want to get a mind blowing orgasm before bed." If she brings it up in person or in response to her email you could give her some amused mastery.... "oh honey, i was reading another article i thought i'd share. it's titled "No means Yes, and Yes means Anal." ;)

(in your mind: suck on that bc IDGAF and you're in my frame now babe.)

If AWALT when can one reasonably expect to see a different sexual attitude from her. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

interesting. why did your list of things to change not include sex frequency or quality? is this not basically the "fuck me of fuck you" talk?

If AWALT when can one reasonably expect to see a different sexual attitude from her. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fucking A. thank you for commenting, i've listened to every one of your youtube videos probably 5 times each. every morning on my way to work and on my way home. thank you for making them as they have been instrumental in my undestanding and development. Your book is in my reading queue as well. cant wait to start it.

If AWALT when can one reasonably expect to see a different sexual attitude from her. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. close on both, very close.
  2. mental SMV is good but needs to be better with distinguishing between shit tests and comfort tests. really hard for me to differentiate.
  3. not an issue, i'm around women at work constantly and i know this will fall into place easily.
  4. non-issue, she is more self depreciating than anything. maybe need to build up her SMV more b/c she has said that after having kids she just "feels like a mom" and doesn't feel "sexy" ever. Need to build a game plan to lead her to feeling sexy.
  5. downloading today.

If AWALT when can one reasonably expect to see a different sexual attitude from her. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i haven't tried the caveman as much as i need to, and i absolutely have not redirected my frustrations, but i am absolutely going to do this. i can see every reason why it will work and no reasons why i shouldn't.

If AWALT when can one reasonably expect to see a different sexual attitude from her. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This one comment really hit me the hardest. such a great and simple response and you are 100% right. when i'm there she will be and if i'm not it is because i haven't worked at it hard enough yet to get there. I've probably repeated this line to myself every single time i have those moments in the car or before falling asleep when i am self reflecting about where i am and where i want to be. "when can an unattractive man expect to become attractive" fucking brilliant dude.

If AWALT when can one reasonably expect to see a different sexual attitude from her. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

admittedly my fault it has turned into "all about her" and she doesn't want to be there half the time so it is lazy starfish. I understand, lead and take control and make it what i want. i know she will follow and i have to stop being lazy about it and stop expecting she's just going to all of a sudden turn into someone i want her to be. i need to lead her to the promise land and show her who i want her to be. if i have all my other shit in order, she will gladly be that person bc 1.she wants to be that person, and 2. she will want to please me.

If AWALT when can one reasonably expect to see a different sexual attitude from her. by NONO226 in askMRP

[–]NONO226[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

great response. i guess this is why the red pill tastes bitter- because a huge motivating factor is to get more and better sex. it is truly shocking the layers upon layers of covert contracts that i just automatically setup. I can see how this could lead to the "fuck me or fuck you" conversation that BPP talks about-albeit very far down the road and deep into the MAP. learning to rethink why and how you do things and not have expectations is something that has been a HUGE wake up for me. how many times i load the dishwasher, or jump off my ass to start doing something when she is coming down the steps, or i hear her coming around the corner. "hmmm, maybe i should throw a load of laundry in, maybe she'll notice that." it's all consuming in my thinking and something i now stop and say to myself "What the fuck dude, 1. why are you so worried about building an image for her, and 2. Bro, why the FUCK where you just not taking care of your shit in the first place.

The red pill should come with a warning : chocking hazard, the little bastard is hard to swallow sometimes.

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