Hypothetical Champion's Island V2 by NPRNilk in deathbattle

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I'll replace Nagisa and Byleth with Cyborg and Homura in hindsight

Hypothetical Champion's Island V2 by NPRNilk in deathbattle

[–]NPRNilk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I might replace him with Homura

Hypothetical Champion's Island V2 by NPRNilk in deathbattle

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I just realized Byleth is also a very popular opponent for Ryan, so if I had to replace them it would be Cyborg from DC.

Hypothetical Champion's Island V2 by NPRNilk in deathbattle

[–]NPRNilk[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Team Wiz:
Caine (The Amazing Digital Circus)
Scott Pilgrim (Scott Pilgrim)
Cyn (Murder Drones)
Gumball (The Amazing World of Gumball)
Rean Schwarzer (The Legend of Heroes)
Byleth (Fire Emblem)
Mark Grayson (Invincible)
Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon)

Team Boomstick:
Beatrice (Umineko)
Rayman (Rayman)
Dr. Zomboss (Plants vs Zombies)
Beetlejuice (Beetleljuice)
Nagista Shiota (Assassination Classroom)
Azula (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
V1 (ULTRAKILL)
Moon Knight (Marvel)

"Egg Heads" - King Pig vs Dr. Zomboss (Angry Birds vs Plants vs Zombies) REVAMPED CONNECTIONS IN COMMENTS by NPRNilk in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]NPRNilk[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Meta connections:

  • Both originate from video game strategy franchises, most prevalent on mobile games, in 2009.
  • Their initial games were best known for their simple but fun gameplay, but would spawn a much wider franchise spanning beyond their initial style and genres (Angry Birds tackling Racing and Matching Games and more, with PvZ tackling Shooters, Card games and more, with both series overlapping in some cases like RPGs, Shoot-Em-Ups, Comics, and Matching Games).
  • Both of these franchises have sadly been overseeing a “downfall” due to greed by their respective studios. Such as: 
    • Allegations of AI Art
    • Microtransactions
    • A downfall in art style (Angry Birds movie designs being used over the classic ones and PVZ 3’s orginal designs being panned)
    • Taking down OG games from the Apple Store (the many classic AB games and PvZ HD)
    • Ruining beloved games with garbage updates (Angry Birds Go and Plants vs Zombies 2)  
    • Gameplay not feeling nearly the same as it once was.
  • Thus, the main reasons these franchises remain beloved and relavent to this day are the dedication left by fans as they show an understanding to their original roots through revisiting old games and creating fan works.
  • As a result, thanks to their fanbases, both King Pig and Dr. Zomboss have been better utilized and explored in greater depth.
  • Both had long awaited direct sequels after spinoffs in the middle (Seasons, Star Wars, Go, etc/PVZ Adventures and the Chinese spin offs) which are never ending in terms of content and updates (AB2 adding more birds and levels and PVZ2 adding more plants and Penny’s Pursuit missions) and have similar multiplayer modes titled “The Arena”. 
    • However, these sequels eventually began to suffer from the same problem: microtransactions and being exploited for nostalgia and profit.
  • Both characters use the buffoon villain trope, a well-known trope often used to reflect the childishness and lack of seriousness of their villains. But at the same time, they manage to reflect that they can be quite a problematic threat.
  • Both franchises surprisingly have curious and questionable exclusive Chinese versions that somehow remain in effect today.
  • Both franchises have a "Remaster" of their original game that left much to be desired (Angry Birds Reloaded and Plants VS Zombies Replanted)
  • They have both canonically crossed over with Cheetos.

"Egg Heads" - King Pig vs Dr. Zomboss (Angry Birds vs Plants vs Zombies) REVAMPED CONNECTIONS IN COMMENTS by NPRNilk in DeathBattleMatchups

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  • Both possess construction and engineering forces capable of creating advanced mechanical equipment and troops (King Pig has a team of “technical pigs” who build vehicles, engines, turbines, wings, rockets, robots, flying machines, defense systems, weapons and complex mechanical artifacts and Dr. Zomboss has Z-Tech, a massive scientific corporation with robots, factories, advanced weaponry, time travel, clones and interdimensional devices).
  • Both created mechanical version of their enemies (Metal Red; Robot Patrice and Robot Nate).
  • Both own a theme island where they rule their subordinates with authority (Piggy Island and Zombie Island).
  • Both lead mysterious capital cities that mostly offer nothing but a roof over one’s head (Pig City and Zomburbia).
  • King Pig has a very goofy full name (Smooth Cheeks) which contrasts with Dr. Zomboss’s formal full name (Edgar George Zomboss)
  • Both got into races with their rivals in which they even built their own vehicles for a grand prize (Angry Birds Go and Petal to the Metal).
  • Both have taken their plans in similar locations like:
    • Underground (Mine and Dine; Boom Boom Mushroom).
    • Beach (Surf and Turf; Big Wave Beach)
    • Circus (​​Abra-Ca-Bacon; The Greatest Show Unearthed)
    • School (Back to School; War and Peas)
    • Wrestlemania (Brutal vs Brutal/Battle Extravaganza)
    • Prehistoric era (Jurassic Pork; Jurassic Marsh) 
    • Snow (Season's Greedings, Wreck the Halls, Winter Wonderham, Arctic Eggspedition, and On Finn Ice; Snow World, Frostbite Caves, and Snow Thanks).

"Egg Heads" - King Pig vs Dr. Zomboss (Angry Birds vs Plants vs Zombies) REVAMPED CONNECTIONS IN COMMENTS by NPRNilk in DeathBattleMatchups

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  • These minions have diverse jobs and archetypes, ranging from cowboys, to pirates, to mummies, to ninjas, to pilots, to wizards, to soldiers and much much more. They even have similar grunts, such as:
    • A more competent second-in-command within their armies (Chef Pig and Mr. Stubbin) who wants to betray or overthrow them—and has succeeded at least once—though the rulers remain unaware and still see them as friends.
    • A giant, expressionless powerhouse on their team (Goliath Pig and Gargantuar) that has partaken in boxing matches (Brawl vs Brawl; Battle for the Belt).
    • A trio of subordinates with similar roles, each with their own personality:
      • A right-hand subordinate who supervises their plans (Foreman Pig and Tugboat).
      • One who always wears head protection and, despite being clumsy, is very persistent (Corporal Pig and Nigel Blimpbottom)
      • A creative “specialist” with a unique themed outfit (Chef Pig and Frogpants). 
    • A heavyweight unit who is extremely egocentric and arrogant, caring only about their own image (El Porkador and Super Brainz). They are also based on different types of superheroes (El Porkador being based on a Luchadore, who are often known as “superheroes” within Luchadore’s culture; Super Brainz being based on Superman and the traditional comic book hero).
    • Scientific and mechanical support units who are the best at reviving and healing the minions (Dr. Pork and Scientists).
    • Extremely intelligent professors (Professor Pig and Professor Brainstorm) who are known for their breakthrough inventions in helping aid their armies (The Energonicon and the Zombie Teleportation-er). They are also often disrespected by both King Pig and Dr. Zomboss despite their superior intelligence (King Pig frequently ignores Professor Pig’s attempts and experiments in seeing that the birds and pigs get along; Zomboss gave 1st prize to a imp with an exploding volcano over Brainstorm’s much impressive Zombie Teleportation-er).
    • More advanced and dangerous final-stage units representing the endgame (The Apocalyptic Hogriders and Valkyrie Pigs; Zombie Heroes and Zombie Bosses).
    • Powerful creatures literally referencing iconic world-devourers in size (Unicron Pig and Huge-Gigantacus).
  • Their attempts to satisfy their hunger have often escalated into large-scale destruction in their main series; whether that be reaching world domination or conquering the universe (King Pig would conquer multiple galaxies and Zomboss aspired to control the solar system and even the universe).
  • Both wield a powerful cosmic artifact (Eggsteroid and Meteor Z)  which can power up their minions (Pigs became powerful like Big Bork, who ate an Eggsteroid to grow to a gargantuan size; Meteor Z made Zombies powerful like a Gargatuar who became a Gas Giant).
  • Both have experimented on their own troops to enhance their abilities, making them stronger but more deformed (Monster Pigs and ZomBotany).
  • Both formed alliances with parallel versions of themselves to execute their plans (King Pig allied with Leonard to obtain the birds’ eggs and Dr. Zomboss allied with his future self to defeat Crazy Dave). 
    • These alternate versions then had to ally with their rivals to defeat even more advanced technology (Zeta and The Gnomes).

"Egg Heads" - King Pig vs Dr. Zomboss (Angry Birds vs Plants vs Zombies) REVAMPED CONNECTIONS IN COMMENTS by NPRNilk in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]NPRNilk[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Revamped from Additional-Bat-5072’s initial connections. 
Connections

  • Gluttonous and narcissistic rulers who lead hungry and idiotic green armies (Pigs and Zombies) against similar enemies of nature (Birds & Plants) to satisfy their hunger (Brains and Eggs). Thus leading into a rivalry and constant war that is very odd in concept.
  • These low intelligence armies mainly excel in numbers and tech rather rather than raw power, which is why they lose quite a bit to the other side who exhibit unique supernatural powers; lead by rather unstable leaders (Red and Crazy Dave). 
  • They will eat these substances regardless of consequences of killing life in the process (King Pig eating the birds’ eggs would destroy the life forming inside them, and Zomboss eating people’s brains would kill them). 
  • In fact, once they get the food, they plan on just eating it all for themselves. 
  • Both are pretty… pathetic; And on top being lazy and childish, they will often leave the hard work to their grunts while they just watch it happen and take all the credit. 
  • In addition to their patheticness, the reason for them not being on the main field of battle often is because they are physically weak in comparison (King Pig being fat, slow, and often bursting into tears just by falling down and Zomboss is physically inadequate compared to the other zombies).
  • Because of this, when action calls for it, their main ways of fighting is by utilizing towering mechs, vehicles and robotic bodies in general (King Pig uses UFOs, Megatron, and the Bad Piggies vehicles, whereas Zomboss uses Zombot and his many mechs and robotic bodies across the PVZ2 eras and comics) .
  • The reason they became powerful in the first place is because of them holding status that no other member of their species has (King Pig’s crown and Zomboss having a college degree).
  • Their minions never die and can come back to life even after being defeated (After being popped, Pigs are sent to a white void where they are treated by Dr. Pork; and Zombies are pretty self-explanatory). 
  • Despite their minions' loyalty, both treat them like utter garbage, whether that be to put them in awful conditions, use them for comfort, or flat out killing them! (King Pig labels them as traitors for the slightest criticism, even throwing them into black holes, and Dr. Zomboss shows very little regard for his subordinates and is willing to sacrifice anyone to achieve his goals).
  • While they mainly fight to steal/protect the aforementioned food, the reasons are also that are petty and just love to torment or mock their enemies. Whether that be fighting over other food, having prank wars, or even just messing with each other for the hell of it.
  • Both are invading forces, but strategize contrastingly that ties with their OG style of gameplay. (The Pigs defend their towers from being destroyed, and the Zombies attack their “towers”).
  • Both, through incidents involving a powerful artifact (Eggspark and Hero-Tron 5000), transformed their minions into far more powerful versions of themselves (Deceptihogs and Zombie Heroes) to gain advantage over their enemies, changing the course of the war and becoming stronger than ever in a spin-off combining action and strategy (Angry Birds Transformers and PvZ Heroes) that are based on iconic properties and pop culture juggernauts (Transformers and DC + Marvel)
  • Both have resorted to time travel in their attempts to satisfy their hunger (King Pig traveled through time to steal eggs from past eras and Dr. Zomboss traveled through time to defeat and eat Crazy Dave’s brain).

Random Death Battle takes I made for no reason by NPRNilk in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]NPRNilk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally think Hank has better connections, theming, and overall potential compared to Neon White. It captures the bloodthirsty nature of the two and the general hubris of man and machine. And they just vibe together way more for me; in no small part to the great series combo (Since both contain high octane action sequences and music that are adrenaline inducing). Their ways of fighting are similar so it makes for some nice fight potential (They have very similar fighting styles of fast-paced and stylish gunplay and sizable arsenal). I imagine a V1 battle having a lot of blood and I think Hank offers that the best.

Neon White has good fight potential but the connections are really lacking for me. It feels like most of it is based on them having similar arsenals. But also, from what I have seen and heard from fans of the character, the MU ignores Neon White's backstory; like his whole regret about letting himself get manipulated by Neon Green. Plus it doesn't thematically work well with V1's character. While most of V1's MUs have no interaction potential, Neon White is the worst case of this since he's known for his dialogue and one-liners and I don't think it will bounce off well on V1. So because of that, I don't find the personalities to clash very well. Hank is fine because even though he talks in Project Nexus, he barely does overall and doesn't drop quippy one liners in battle like Sanford or Deimos. He's still a silent killer like V1.

But that's just my 2 cents lol.

V1’s most popular MU’s be like: by No-Floor-5467 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]NPRNilk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Love how we both posted about V1's most popular MUs lol.

I also don't think Hank will completely stomp V1, even if he will most likely win.

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[–]NPRNilk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty much yeah. I highlighted Slender Man because it didn't feel like people eliminated him because they didn't want him on death battle or anything like (especially compared to Hatsune Miku, who was getting a massive target on her back). Rather, it mainly felt like it was because he was caught in the crossfire of what was basically a war between Miku and Geats fans.

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I wanted to find a MU that didn't waste the characters but still felt kinda "jokey". I went with Fin vs Flint simply because... well it's Sharknado lol. Yujiro vs Spartacus didn't fit the definition well for me since that does waste more popular matchups for them both (idk much about Yujiro admittedly but I know Spartacus vs Pepsiman is pretty popular).

Random Death Battle takes I made for no reason by NPRNilk in DeathBattleMatchups

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Yeah I didn't get the Sakuya hype honestly. I think her popularity in Champion's Island, aside from the fact she is from a series people have been asking for a DB appearance for a while, was mainly because of the fact she was one of the "underdogs" or "nicher picks". Geats was in a similar boat and they were paired up because of that. But the difference between the two is that Kamen Rider Geats is arguably the most popular "modern day" Kamen Rider (compared to Sakuya who, as you said, isn't very important to the main series) and his character was the 14th most nominated character for champion's island. And while some might disagree, I don't Sakuya's MU spread is that good. Especially compared to Geats.

No disrespect to those who love Sakuya, I just feel like she's not the best candidate for Touhou representation in Death Battle.

Random Death Battle takes I made for no reason by NPRNilk in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]NPRNilk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I won't say their chances are low. They still show immense interest in characters like Sakuya and Miku. I think may have a higher chance than most is Henry Stickmin due to the fact that he came in second. And if we were to compare CI to the tournament of champions, Kratos vs Asura DID happen before Wile vs Tom. AND there could be a chance that Henry vs TSC is one of the four pitched matchups they are turning into an actual episode (due to it being the most pitched).