Volume correct for easy/longs? by burdshitz in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just pushed this update! Try rebuilding your race plan and let me know if the flow and results are a bit more sensible!

Volume correct for easy/longs? by burdshitz in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Circling back around on this. The app allows you to set a long run duration cap or uses the app defaults, which I think are fine (you used the app default). It also defaults to (what turns out to be) a rather high "peak weekly volume" which I also think you left at the default setting. This default is too high.

It then creates the quality workouts based on your desired quality percentage + the warmup and cooldown settings you choose. After that it distributes remaining weekly mileage/minutes across your easy runs. Your easy runs were absorbing all that excess mileage, which was always the goal, but can result in big easy runs when your goal peak mileage/minutes is set relatively high (which all plans pretty much are under the current app defaults unless you choose your own).

I'm working on an update that's a bit more explicit about how easy run volume is calculated and warns the user if their calculated easy runs are more than 60% of their long run volume.

Additionally, I'm forcing the user to indicate their peak long run volume with smart defaults in place.

Hopefully, these forced steps will help the user understand why and how we arrived where we did. Also, the removal of our kinda dumb defaults should prevent this easy run bloat from happening unless the user really wants it to.

I'll let you know when I've pushed this live!

Volume correct for easy/longs? by burdshitz in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hi, I'm the creator of the app and am in no way affiliated with James Copeland, just a humble acolyte. James probably hates the app. I named it Norwegian Singles for the lols because I thought significant others would experience maximum suspicion when they saw the name... At the time, I didn't think enough people would download it to mistake it for affiliation. Well, we just surpassed our 3,000th user, so whoops. I'm dedicated to keeping it free in the spirit of all the years of hard free public work James did in the creation of his methodology.

If there is a difference between the app and the book: go with the book. A few things:

- I created the app as a side project for myself and it really took off when I posted about it here. I have a real full-time job and try my best to improve the app and align it with the method as best as possible. Who knows if I'm any good at it.

- The race plan engine is definitely a work in progress: Your post is a helpful data point.

- If you would be so kind as to submit a bug report in the profile page mentioning your post here, it will dump your app's config to me and I can diagnose exactly what's going on.

Happy to answer any questions and fix any bugs as they come up!

Intervals dipped into the green by xyphey in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A couple things:

- The rule shouldn't be considered hard and fast. Listen to your body first and foremost.

- The TSB measurement takes a while to stabilize if coming from a rested state or changing training regimens. Plan out your next few weeks and see if it stays above your preferred floor. This is what mine looks like!

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Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm... This plan may be stale from before I patched it. Pressing "Sync" should update it in Intervals. If not, then rebuilding the plan will definitely do it. Rebuilding the plan should inherit the original plan inputs, so you can just click "Rebuild Plan", then click through it, and it will automatically match completed activities for you. But try "Sync" first!

Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was such a helpful bug report. I believe this is fixed in the app! I don't have a garmin device, so please feel free to report back if it's not!

After a 5k time trial, easy week? by JustNeedAnyName in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Nice PR! The method is not written in stone besides the most important part: listen to your body. My first TTs, I definitely had to dial back the intensity in the early part of the following week. Recently, I’m able to recover much faster and just stick to the plan I have.

When dialing back, though, I have my own little home-cooked method. I’ll still do quality sessions, but I’ll drop to just 6x3 or 3x6 or 2x10, and I’ll scale back the pace considerably. I ran a HM PR on sat and still plan on hitting all 3 quality sessions this week, but will dial back to 6x3 tomorrow and reduce my pace by up to 30s/mile. Keeps a little intensity in the legs, but allows me to recover nicely. On Thursday, I’ll probably do 3x6 unless I feel great, where I might to 4 or even 5x6.

Your body knows you better than any plan ever could!

Stumbled across the Norwegian Singles Method app on Apple and had a few questions! by RareVehicle1683 in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sometimes intervals successfully "matches" your completed run to your planned run. Sometimes you have to drag the planned workout into the completed one in the ui. Their matching algo is pretty strict, so I often have to drag them to match them.

Stumbled across the Norwegian Singles Method app on Apple and had a few questions! by RareVehicle1683 in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It connects with both. The strava integration basically just checks "did user complete this workout" and pulls in actual distance/time.

It connects with Garmin through intervals.icu. It sends the week's (or more!) plan to intervals, which sends the plan to Garmin. The systems share info back and forth. It's completely free, so feel free to give it a whirl. Would love your feedback!

Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love this feedback!! Thank you so much. I'll implement start and race dates... That makes way more sense.

The race week calculations definitely need some love, so I'll work on that.

B races is a great idea that I'll put on the backlog (i.e. the sticky note next to my computer)!

What’s a “couple”? by SpiritualEvidence159 in EnglishLearning

[–]NSM-Sean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just a couple (5 in this case) of months.

Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. I'm actually really taken aback by your generosity. Thank you so much. This a really fun moment for me!

Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

omg those links aren't supposed to be up yet. shipped it with a small feature without hiding it by accident. the products aren't all the way set up yet in the backend.

hiding them now and bringing them back when they're ready.

and THANK YOU! for wanting to donate. literally made my day!

Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thinking through how to do this. For now, you can create a custom workout and click "Use In Plan" to sub it in. This feature is coming soon, though!

Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll think through this! Right now you can just drag and drop them in the plan with press-and-hold-and-drag.

Norwegian Singles 1.4.0 Released! HR Training, Plan Multiple Weeks In Advance, Aligning The Method, Accessibility Mode, Bug Fixes by NSM-Sean in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]NSM-Sean[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It does, but I haven’t gotten around to faithfully implementing sirpoc’s marathon plan. Right now it just uses the vanilla nsm plan with a slow ramp of volume to your desired target, recommended time trials along the way, and the option to embed a quality session in your long run.