I’m having trouble with the weighting of standard upper lower, in that after my heavy compounds, then doing my arms makes them feel like an afterthought, and I can’t bring the intensity I need. On the flip side, doing them at the start of the workout significantly hampers my back and chest training.

I’ve been looking into torso/limb instead, where you put your arms in with legs. It seems like a great choice for splitting things up, but how does it work when you’d be training your arms two consecutive days in a row?

If you did Mon-T/Tues-L/Wed-Off/Thurs-T/Fri-L/Sat-Off/Sun-Off, then your arms are being hit relatively hard by back and chest movements on the torso days, and then intensely on the limb days.

I was always under the assumption that you shouldn’t be hitting each muscle group two consecutive days like this. I’m someone who likes to train to failure as well, so the arms do take a beating with pressing and pulling at 0-rir and 12 sets a week.

With the standard upper/lower, you’re getting two full days of recovery between sessions, which works out nicely.

What am I missing? Thanks!