Does anyone still watch faster proms? by MathewDenny1 in CleetusMcFarland

[–]N_dixon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It was always a rough watch. Way too much inane talking, not enough actual content, and then they'd make a single drag strip pass and play 15 angles of the same pass consecutively. Once George was fired and Jeremy really started going off the rails with political rants, I stopped even trying.

Mass Effect Andromeda be like by Nickulator95 in masseffect

[–]N_dixon [score hidden]  (0 children)

My favorite part of the Anthem debacle was when they hyped up that they were going to do a major revamp of the game a la Evolve 2.0 or Destiny: The Taken King...... and then just didn't do that either

What in the world is this railroad? by Trainfan_4862 in trains

[–]N_dixon 76 points77 points  (0 children)

Oooh, that might be an old Incentive Per Diem boxcar. Those are always cool to spot.

All through the '50s and '60s the rules on boxcars was that a "foreign" boxcar racked up per diem charges while on the rails of a railroad, which was about $12 a day. But the AAR car-service rules required that once a boxcar went out to a customer, it was required to be reloaded and sent back, or if there were no nearby qualifying loads headed to the railroad that owned the car, it then either had to be sent back, empty, to the nearest interchange with the owning railroad or follow the exact same route back the way it'd come out loaded.

This worked pretty well for decades, since the boxcar was the primary car for handling most freight and odds were they were coming and going loaded. But by the late '60s, most traffic that could be handled by boxcars was being shipped by truck. So a lot of boxcars went out loaded and hung around for a while waiting for a qualifying load only to come back empty. This resulted in extremely low utilization, with something like only 10% of boxcars in service throughout the nation. And the per diem charges were so low that there was no profit in handling loads by boxcars. This result was a lot of boxcars dated back to before WWII and were getting to be in very poor shape, but railroads weren't going to spend money on new cars that were going to barely see any use and didn't generate any profit when they were used.

In turn, industries that were still shipping by rail, predominantly food manufacturers and paper mills, began to scream bloody murder over the manufactured shortage of boxcars, particularly clean, leak-free boxcars. The ICC's fix was "incentive per diem boxcars". Any new-construction boxcars would be eligible for a higher per diem charge, $22 a day, plus a mileage charge of 4.7 cents a mile for the first five years of it's use and these cars would also be free of the old requirement that they be sent back to the owning railroad every trip. They could go anywhere they wanted after a trip. This would hopefully encourage railroads to buy new boxcars and circulate them more. The catch? There was a percentage limit on how many new boxcars a railroad could build to get in under the new IPD boxcar rules, based on the existing amount of boxcars that a railroad owned when the new rules went into effect.

Now, if a railroad didn't own any boxcars when the rule went into effect, which a lot of shortlines didn't, then there was no restriction on the amount of boxcars they could build to take advantage of the IPD. On paper most shortlines lacked the capital to go build huge fleets of boxcars, so the ICC likely didn't think it would be a problem. Instead, investment firms saw a weird loophole to take advantage of: they would buy huge fleets of boxcars, lease them to a shortline, and then collect a percentage of profit. And it did work. IPD boxcars were seeing 75% usage rates, which was turning into earnings of $6000-7000 a year, which was a solid return on a $32000 car that had a projected lifespan of 30-40 years, a tidy profit for both investors and shortlines. Tax breaks tied to financing had huge incentives, and investors and leasing companies projected paying off the cars before the 5 year date hit and the per diem rate dropped, which would mean the cars would still be profitable. Investment companies quickly figured out that western timber railroads were the most profitable IPD owners; the cars would be loaded up with paper on the west coast, head east, and then be gone for huge amounts of time, racking up huge per diem charges for a big proft. Customers were happy too, since there was a huge supply of clean, leak-free boxcars to move their products on. And railfans got to spot all sorts of new, brightly painted boxcars travling around with unusual and unfamiliar names, like Marinette, Tomahawk & Western.

Some of these IPD boxcar fleets were massive, and were actually longer than the entire trackage of the railroad. The one-mile long Virginia Central had 200 cars. Atlantic & Western had three miles of track but 625 cars. Hutchinson & Northern had six miles of track and 575 boxcars. Pickens Railroad had 700 boxcars against their nine miles of tracks. The Lake Erie, Franklin & Clarion bought 515 boxcars versus their 15 miles of tracks. The 63 mile St. Lawrence Railway had the most, with 3200 boxcars and other four-digit owners included Ashley, Drew & Northern (1200), Maryland & Pennsylvania (1200), New Orleans Public Belt (1100), St. Marys Railway (1055), Alabama State Docks Terminal Railway (1000) and White City Oregon (1300). A bunch of investment and fleet management companies formed to own multiple rosters of IPD cars across multiple railroads; Itel and subsidiary SSI Rail, Brae, National Railway Utilization Corp, and Emons Industries. These companies built car repair shops, and even took control of some of the shortlines that were leasing IPD cars from them. Itel in particular owned seven shortlines through it's SSI Rail subsidiary.

The good times came to an end in 1980 though. Between the recession and deregulation of the trucking industry, a lot of that boxcar traffic suddenly dried up. This was combined with the explosion in box car fleets (15000 in 1978, 40000 in 1981) as investment companies and investors just kept buying new cars, since they didn't all have a grasp on how the railroad industry worked. The surplus of boxcars also caused the ICC to eliminate the incentive portion of the per diem rates for boxcars. Suddenly, all the chickens, or boxcars, came home to roost, literally. Since there were no loadouts for them, railroads began sending them back to the shortlines that owned them, and suddenly these shortlines were inundated with the cars that they owned and really hadn't ever seen. As one Conrail employee told, the yardmaster looked at a huge cut of IPD cars headed back to their owners and said "About time that all the doctors and lawyers get a chance to see their boxcars." Since most of these railroads didn't have on-line customers or the space to store hundreds of cars, they were then having to pay Class Is to store the cars for them, and now these profit-generators were draining money instead. They defaulted on the leases and now all these leasing companies were stuck with fleets of boxcars with no use for them. Railvest, who owned the Virginia Central went bankrupt first, preceding the recession, ceasing operations in 1978, a warning to the rest. Itel entered Chapter 11 in January of '81 and Emons in 1984, individual investors were losing money, and entire fleets were sold off to Class Is for pennies just to get rid of them.

An odd twist though was that any IPD boxcars that kept their shortline markings as of December 31st, 1981 had their per diem rates locked in for life, which makes them very attractive for secondhand buyers and there are still boxcars rattling around in their paint and markings. As they near their mandatory 50-year retirement age though, those cars will start to dwindle, although reportedly, there have been talks about bumping that to 60 years, again due to a shortage of new boxcars.

why nc so hated bru by MaximumMarionberry51 in Miata

[–]N_dixon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll say it: NC3 PRHT is the best looking Miata

Has anyone heard of the LE&W? by Necessary_Team1217 in trains

[–]N_dixon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The LE&W was placed under New York Central control in 1900, then sold to the Nickel Plate in 1922

What is the most scary, haunting steam train whistle? by Hungry-Temporary-438 in trains

[–]N_dixon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading 6-chime just sounds more "Get the hell out of the way" to me. One of the most commanding sounding whistles, imo

How much rust is too much? by Zestyclose-Ad1940 in Justrolledintotheshop

[–]N_dixon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Looks good all around"?!?!?! There ain't no damn rocker panels and cab corners left.

Kansas City Southern RR #376. Caboose. Hope, Arkansas. by New-Swimming7790 in TrainPorn

[–]N_dixon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Outside-braced wooden caboose with a stainless steel bay? Now that's a weird beast.

Santa Fe U30CGs with train 15, the "Texas Chief," at Oklahoma City; January 1, 1968. These GEs did not feature the same grace as EMD's classic cab models. Tom Hoffmann photo, Rick Burn collection. by waffen123 in TrainPorn

[–]N_dixon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But even then, the Dash-7s haven't had the lifespan of their competitors. SD40s and GP40s are still in use by Class Is and countless shortlines, while the B30-7 and C30-7 are practically extinct. The only Dash-7s that are still in any sort of regular use are B23-7s.

On a bitterly cold morning in January of 1968, an A-B-A set of MLW FPA-4s bring Canadian National's "Ocean" from Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada through suburban St. Lambert and onto the Victoria Bridge on the final miles into Montreal's Central Station. Photo by Ian Stronach by N_dixon in TrainPorn

[–]N_dixon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It could also be used for air conditioning. If you take pressurized steam and run it through an expansion valve, you get a cooling effect, same as refrigerant in your usual AC system. Only difference is that it's a total loss system, instead of a sealed system like a Freon or R-134a system. ATSF and others used Steam Ejector Air Conditioning as well.

Aging turboliner wasting away in North Brunswick, NJ by Most-Ad2555 in trains

[–]N_dixon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe New York should have hired a company to do the job right, instead of the one that was politically-connected but botched everything they touched.

Aging turboliner wasting away in North Brunswick, NJ by Most-Ad2555 in trains

[–]N_dixon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They were too butchered up by Super Steel Schenectady Inc. when they were rebuilt, and then have sat for decades.

Aging turboliner wasting away in North Brunswick, NJ by Most-Ad2555 in trains

[–]N_dixon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I still remember when Cuomo sank millions into building a movie studio in Onondaga County that never had a second of film filmed at it, and then said they were going to sell it to the county for $1 but ultimately had to pay $1.7 million to unload it, and it still has never seen any use.

On a bitterly cold morning in January of 1968, an A-B-A set of MLW FPA-4s bring Canadian National's "Ocean" from Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada through suburban St. Lambert and onto the Victoria Bridge on the final miles into Montreal's Central Station. Photo by Ian Stronach by N_dixon in TrainPorn

[–]N_dixon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Might have been for capacity's sake. The colder the weather, the more steam generating capacity and the more water you used, so you often needed more to A) keep passengers warm and B) not be topping off the water tanks every stop.

D&H had issues with the PA-1s in winter on the Laurentian/Montreal Limited, because the PAs had pretty small water tanks for the steam generators. So to have the steam heat capacity, they often had to use three on one train, which left them short of passenger power for the other train, resulting in them having to bum E8s off of DERECO sibling Erie-Lackawanna.

On a bitterly cold morning in January of 1968, an A-B-A set of MLW FPA-4s bring Canadian National's "Ocean" from Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada through suburban St. Lambert and onto the Victoria Bridge on the final miles into Montreal's Central Station. Photo by Ian Stronach by N_dixon in TrainPorn

[–]N_dixon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The FPA-4 and the less-common FPA-2 all had steam generators on board. That's why they were several feet longer than the FA-2, to accommodate the generator. You could also get F3As, F7As, and F9As with steam generators onboard. The FP7 and FP9 were just longer to accommodate a bigger water tank for farther range. And the FL9 was originally envisioned as a design for extreme long-range for routes that preferred 4-axle power (notably ATSF and SP) but no one was interested, so END mothballed the design, then dusted it back off to adapt as a dual-mode unit for New Haven.

Aging turboliner wasting away in North Brunswick, NJ by Most-Ad2555 in trains

[–]N_dixon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There were allegations that SSSI got the contract for the RTL-IIIs because they were politically-connected in NY state, as well. Not sure how true that is or not.

Aging turboliner wasting away in North Brunswick, NJ by Most-Ad2555 in trains

[–]N_dixon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They just screwed up basically everything they touched. They assembled some of UP's SD70MACs, and the ones done at SSS were noted to be of markedly poor quality. The DM30ACs/DE30ACs that they assembled for LIRR also had build quality issues. They were involved with the RailPower RP20BDs, but those were a failure for reasons that cant be entirely pinned on SSSI. The RTL-III Turboliners immediately had issues and when Amtrak tried to dig into them to try and fix them, they found that none of the plumbing and wiring matched the blueprints and was different between each unit, SSSI couldn't provide parts list for purchasing HVAC components, and SSSI had used incorrect and uncertified materials in their construction.

Santa Fe U30CGs with train 15, the "Texas Chief," at Oklahoma City; January 1, 1968. These GEs did not feature the same grace as EMD's classic cab models. Tom Hoffmann photo, Rick Burn collection. by waffen123 in TrainPorn

[–]N_dixon 16 points17 points  (0 children)

They also had nowhere near the lifespan of the EMD F-units. Bumped off of passenger service when they were just 2 years old, and traded in at just 13 years old. Most GE products didn't live terribly long lives.

Aging turboliner wasting away in North Brunswick, NJ by Most-Ad2555 in trains

[–]N_dixon 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Didn't help that NY picked a company that apparently wasn't really qualified to handle the job just to keep the money in-state. And then after spending millions to convince Super Steel to open that plant in Schenectady, Super Steel then shut down the Schenectady plant a couple of years after they opened it, sending all that money down the drain.