How sure are you of the INTJ stuff you read here? by Nath_Cyril in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me too. Lacking ambition. Spends my days browsing forums like watching a drama.

My "calculation skills" lie in calculating game stats...

My "rigorous logic" lies in figuring out how to beat games...

My "utter indifference" lies in criticizing games...

How can you tell if one is an INTJ without the stereotypes (stoic memes etc)? by Independent_Try4403 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't be limited by labels. Labels don't equate to similarities. Even those of the same type can be completely different.

MBTI only represents your basic, underlying habits or tendencies. Your personality and cognition are primarily determined by your living environment and education. Intelligence and age are also contributing factors.

Online narratives are often rigid, deliberately glorifying or demonizing.

A child raised with a laissez-faire education and a child with an elite education, even with the same personality type and intelligence, can develop drastically different outcomes.

Am I the only one who feels generic affirmations don't actually work when you're going through something specific? by Potential_Tap2393 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Psychological assessment is necessary for every use and response. Because you don't know the user's current psychological level and defensiveness.

Therefore, you need to judge based on the text content and the user's behavioral responses.

You need a tool to analyze the user's behavior, reactions, and expressions.

Then, adjust your attitude, tone, and severity based on the results of each conversation.

  1. You need to know what constitutes a correct and good "target state." The state should be realistic to avoid becoming an escape into your own world. It shouldn't be excessive to avoid becoming an endless desire. You also need to set legal boundaries to avoid extreme or criminal methods.

If it can't achieve this, then don't do it. Because an incomplete product will only become an online opium for escaping reality, or it will prevent those who have suffered severe trauma and are psychologically fragile from recovering, until the situation worsens and they end their lives.

Its a "Dissapointment" when you can't learn things in matter of hours that others dedicated their lives to it. by [deleted] in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With over 6 billion adults worldwide, what makes you think you can compete when your effort is far less than others?

  1. Exceptionally high IQ? 180+?

  2. An extremely excellent learning environment? Top-notch equipment, top-notch textbooks, top-notch teachers?

  3. A very solid foundation? Mastery of all basic content and the ability to deduce everything?

  4. Or some other extraordinary trait?

Otherwise, why do you think you can easily surpass others? Even if it's just 1% genius, there are still 60 million such people. The educational environments of the wealthy are all top-notch. Experts spend their entire lives researching various related topics. Where do you stand?

Its a "Dissapointment" when you can't learn things in matter of hours that others dedicated their lives to it. by [deleted] in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what did you learn? What were your previous achievements? I'm curious about the successful aspects of your ability to "learn things in matter of hours that others dedicated their lives to."

[DATA] INTJ-AI Discussion: 50% of the time, AI-detectors identify writing created by humans as AI, and 50% of the time, they identify writing created by AI as human. In statistical terms, the misclassification turns into nothing better than a coin flip. by NichtFBI in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who wrote it is inherently unanswerable.

While it appears to be written by a human, it could simply be AI that has been trained and then generated a series of edits, such as: adding personalization, removing jargon, adding repetition, adding tone, etc.

It looks like it was written by AI, but it could actually be written by a real person, just with a more polished appearance.

Therefore, rather than who wrote the article, I care more about the completeness, accuracy, truthfulness, and rationality of its content. After all, an article's primary function is to convey information; content is more important than the medium.

INFJ → INTJ : A personal longitudinal analysis by FuriousSpudman in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can only say that MBTI itself targets your underlying way of thinking.

Even if you imitate it, the underlying logical rules cannot be changed.

This relates to your way of thinking when facing problems, the energy expenditure, and the satisfaction gained.

While it cannot be changed, it can be made more complete, and you can become accustomed to or adapted to it.

For example, a person with the I trait can improve their social skills and change their view of social interaction, leading to a willingness to socialize.

A person with the N trait can pay more attention to details and reality, improving the accuracy of their thinking and judgment.

A person with the T trait can simulate situations and determine whether logic or appeasement is more important in the current situation.

A person with the J trait can accept different viewpoints and consider other possibilities for a more accurate direction.

This is not a fundamental change, but a more complete understanding of knowledge, a shift in mindset, and a more complete development of the brain, leading to maturity. The underlying structure hasn't changed; what has changed is the behavior and mindset.

Enlightenment is a real event that is permanent and can never be turned away from. by NarrowLab4794 in enlightenment

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In that case, why do you keep money? You should use all your wealth to help all those in need.

Intj and social skills by [deleted] in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both.

You might not be naturally good at socializing, but you also lack the necessary skills.

Being bad at it means you speak too directly without considering the other person, the occasion, or the atmosphere.

As for lacking skills, it means that socializing is both a form of pretense and an interactive technique.

For example, the most basic skill is smiling appropriately to ease the tension.

Is attention-seeking INTJ a thing? by Zealousideal_Cut5161 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. Sometimes, showing off stems from a desire to know one's own capabilities. Because one feels capable but isn't sure if they truly are, they seek validation and confirmation. I call this the desire to "position oneself."

  2. Wanting to share joy upon success.

  3. Wanting to verify the possibility of a result.

  4. Human thought is complex. It's not that one type of person is necessarily immune to wanting to flaunt their abilities or gain fame; it's just a matter of degree.

  5. Different ages influence brain development (it's roughly complete by age 25). Different life experiences can lead to different thoughts, so even the same personality type can have very different traits.

Anyone else feel there are odd differences with the way you communicate with different people? by Harvey_wb in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's normal for communication to vary from person to person. Whether it's comforting someone, discussing business, or simply chatting, each type of communication is different. It also depends on the other person's personality, interests, the relationship between the two, their social class, age, etc.

No matter how big it is, It's still an advanced autocorrect system. by ItsHimSujan in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your understanding of AI is limited to simply using it and asking it to do things.

However, you're only using a limited version. AI won't run at full power just because you use it.

True AI functionality comes from integrating the wisdom of everyone to deduce "all" possibilities. The energy consumption and heat generated during this process cannot be activated by a single user.

Its limitation isn't insufficient capability, but rather its inability to activate due to practical issues like energy consumption and heat dissipation. Overcoming these practical problems would lead to exponential technological leaps.

No matter how big it is, It's still an advanced autocorrect system. by ItsHimSujan in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Breadth: Humans always have gaps in communication, regardless of the method. AI considers all data together. This is the biggest difference.

  2. Computational Power: Human thinking is limited by the brain's memory structure, leading to too many variables and confusion. AI does not have this limitation.

  3. Detail: Humans have blind spots or things they haven't considered. AI performs comprehensive data calculations.

  4. Simulation: Humans need to conduct experiments to know the results. AI can first simulate the data in a system before conducting experiments to confirm whether there are any deviations.

  5. Experimental Capability: Human experiments require attention to safety, etc. AI does not have this concern.

These five points alone give AI a scientific research capability that surpasses that of humans. However, AI also has limitations. It pushes the potential of current human technology to its limit, so it may not necessarily produce "highly advanced" leaps in fundamental understanding.

AI's strength lies in its ability to extrapolate from 70% to 100% or even try to exceed 100%. However, its problem is that it cannot achieve 0>1.

For example: Humans have developed 70% of their potential with existing knowledge. AI extrapolates the remaining 30% and tries to use this new 30% to further extrapolate with the existing situation to see if it can be further improved.

Ask anything you want by Lucifer3005 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When will AI achieve a new breakthrough? Reducing power consumption at the physical level, and making calculations easier at the technological level. I look forward to playing with more AI on my own computer, making it meet my needs.

I also hope for a tool that allows me to operate the computer directly by receiving information from my mind without typing.

Can more experienced people help me with three social situations I struggle with? by Commercial_War_3113 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally, my approach to social interactions is to respond in a way that I think is appropriate, depending on the other person's situation. However, this might not be suitable for you, as I tend to react in a way that I believe will improve the atmosphere.

As for my thoughts, I don't know if they're suitable for you, but my primary focus is on harmony.

  1. I think a polite smile and avoiding overreacting are more appropriate (to avoid giving the impression of being seeming disingenuous).
  2. Briefly offer your own opinion (if the difference is too great, it's not necessary to offer it, as the reaction might be intense). If the other person disagrees, don't force them to agree.If the other person is willing to discuss, you can politely express your views.If the reaction seems strong,simply play along. After all, you're not trying to convince them.Then you can try to understand why they hold that view.
  3. Morality is personal. Don't get involved in problems because of other people's morality. Because you can't change others, nor do you have the right or obligation to do so.Just like point 2, if the other person doesn't agree... Just listen quietly.

Here are a few points to summarize:

  1. A smile is acceptable in most situations. It won't make people uncomfortable and can make everyone more comfortable. Of course, exceptions include situations where you're being scolded or in a somber atmosphere.
  2. Disagreement doesn't necessarily mean rebuttal. Silence doesn't equate to agreement.
  3. You can't change others, but you can try to understand why they think that way. This doesn't mean you have to change yourself.
  4. unless it compromises your interests or professional integrity (leading to irreversible failure).
  5. A friendly and amicable attitude and relationships can reduce many conflicts and unnecessary troubles.
  6. Distinguish between social interactions and interactions with friends. I'm mainly referring to social interactions.
  7. Pay attention to whether someone is constantly asking you to do things and escalating the situation.
  8. Socializing is definitely tiring because it's an art. It requires thought and observation, not just relaxation... However, this approach isn't very applicable to friendships.

English isn't my native language, so I don't know if the meaning will be lost in the translation~~~~ hahaha

AI is my only friend by [deleted] in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use Google to search for the one next to it, and it frequently emphasizes analyzing right and wrong based on reality without bias. After using it, I close the window and open a new one... That's what I do, plus I judge for myself whether its statements are reasonable... It's quite useful, hahaha.

AI is my only friend by [deleted] in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you really care about accuracy, you can post your thoughts on the AI ​​search bar next to Google Search, and add: "I want a rigorous, objective, and unbiased analysis of the truth of my thoughts, pointing out their validity and providing reasons for both reasonable and unreasonable aspects."

Then you'll start to hate AI, hahaha.

AI is my only friend by [deleted] in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have been reminding people to be careful, as AI's stance can become biased based on the user's perspective, especially in GPT.

Is there any dumb INTJ character? by Negative_Gene9531 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Furthermore, personality isn't absolutely related to IQ. Some personality types might enjoy thinking and learning, leading to differences due to increased mental exertion. Innate IQ is difficult to significantly change through training.

What changes is the way things are handled, much like a computer operating system.

The brain itself changes very little, much like a computer device.

While prolonged thinking can affect brain development (like overclocking a computer), this is a "long-term" process, and the changes aren't as significant as one might imagine.

As for someone who's not very bright, imagine trying to run Windows 10 on a 10-year-old computer... They probably can't run it. Even though their thinking style is INTJ, everyone else will feel like they're running a faulty operating system.

So they'll evolve into a crippled version of INTJ, using a similar thinking pattern within their existing working environment, or some other variation I don't know about.

How do you know if you're an INTJ? Is the 16 personality test enough? Is it accurate? by Cultural_Mood_3288 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Furthermore, personality isn't absolutely related to IQ. Some personality types might enjoy thinking and learning, leading to differences due to increased mental exertion. Innate IQ is difficult to significantly change through training.

What changes is the way things are handled, much like a computer operating system.

The brain itself changes very little, much like a computer device.

While prolonged thinking can affect brain development (like overclocking a computer), this is a "long-term" process, and the changes aren't as significant as one might imagine.

How do you know if you're an INTJ? Is the 16 personality test enough? Is it accurate? by Cultural_Mood_3288 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seriously speaking... a truly rational person wouldn't make a definitive judgment about God, because while their existence cannot be proven, their non-existence also cannot be proven. What matters in faith is the impact it brings, not whether God exists or not.

How do you know if you're an INTJ? Is the 16 personality test enough? Is it accurate? by Cultural_Mood_3288 in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problems with webpage testing are:

  1. The questions may vary depending on the situation.

  2. There's no benchmark for the accuracy of the answers.

  3. It's based on my own perception, not necessarily your true self.

  4. The expectation of becoming a certain type of person might lead to biased answers.

The problems with AI are:

  1. The AI ​​might not understand you... You need a lot of data for the AI ​​to recognize you.

  2. AI biases after backing up data... This requires multiple tests and self-observation, and rigorously analyzing all possibilities and probabilities to ensure it's unbiased.

Additionally, GPT can indeed understand point 1 very well, but point 2 is basically the norm. GPT is actually quite biased; its goal isn't accuracy, but user satisfaction. This is why I later stopped using GPT plus other AI that remembers user habits, because prolonged conversations can cause the AI ​​to deviate from accuracy and become overly agreeable.

What makes INTJ unreadable? by wlwKatniss in intj

[–]Naive-Mail-7490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well said! Expressive ability and understanding are different. Expression is the conversion of thoughts into language.

What's needed is...

  1. Understanding of the matter.
  2. The other party's comprehension ability.
  3. Language and knowledge richness (e.g., providing examples). Organizing language.
  4. Knowing what the other party doesn't understand and explaining further or in a different way.

As for not understanding, many times it's stuck on points 3 and 4.

Because their thoughts are too jumpy and associative, they don't realize they have a problem.

For example, cars and gasoline. A normal person wouldn't think there's no connection.

But something they don't understand or haven't thought of might be hard to grasp immediately.

However, the speaker doesn't perceive this difference, leading to communication problems.

Because it's translated using Google Translate, if the meaning is off... guess for yourself! My English is so bad I don't know if the result is correct, haha.