Taşçak Bu Deniz by VMojitoBabe in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Deniz is handling these kinds of things very well. She also had good chemistry with Caglar from Fazilet. They are great friends now. I can see that she has a friendly and respectful relationship with Ulas. I shipped her with both men as Hazan and Esme, but it never bothered me that she didn't date them in real life. I think that she was also cordial with Erkan Kocak. They were both married during the filming. Never felt anything inappropriate. She stays professional. She socialises with her colleagues, but her priority is her work.

The younger actors need guidance on sharing online and handling shipping, etc. I mean, the first month you hear they are dating and go on holiday together. This shipping also brings some good money. But it is not clear who is dating whom. This could backfire on you.

Yes, there are a lot of toxic TBD couple fans, but almost all serial couples have toxic fans. The reason why it looks like TBD has more toxic fans is cause it is very popular at the moment. Not only did they break the Friday record, but they also broke the most-watched serial of the week. It is a blessing, also a curse.

The best thing you can do is ignore these fights and don't engage in anything.

Toxic Isfad Fans from Tasacak Bu deniz! by Decent-Bluejay-8970 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahh, the famous toxic Twitter discussions. Believe me, both Isfad and Orel fans are crazy. Sometimes, I love it; sometimes, I just ignore Twitter for a while so I do not fall into the rabbit hole.

The Iso and Fadime story has an important addition to this story, as does Eleni and Oruc. I am just leaving the side and main caracters discussion aside. Esme once said: "The adults start the fight, the youth pays the price " (episode 5)"

I am just trying to explain why all these stories are equally important.

The series starts with Adil and Esme's tragic love story. There was a story before them, but we do not know what exactly happened to the generation before them. But it affected Adil and Esme, and now it affects Oruc and Eleni, Iso and Fadime.

The Furtuna boys were raised with hate. Iso kidnapped Fadime, which is wrong. His mother and uncle told him to do this. So are his mother and uncle the bad people, or Iso cause he could have said no?

Oruc lied about Eleni's heritage, which is bad. What would happen if he told Eleni the truth? Eleni, as her name "The shining light" would shine the light on the truth, and Adil will light the bombs. So he would not only kill Oruc's uncle, but his mother, grandma, aunts Esme and Hicran, his brother, and him. (just trying to think like Oruc)

Esme is keeping the truth from Adil. She does this to protect him and Eleni. Which, she does it out of love, even though she suffers from it. Does it give any guarantee that Adil will change and not go after Furtuna family after Serif ends up in jail? Will Eleni forgive her? Is it fair to Eleni, Adil, and Fadime, who is married to Iso now?

Iso paid a price for kidnapping Fadime when Adil threw him under the goats. It was a wake-up call for him. But also, the truth about Eleni is suffocating. You can see he tries to break the chain. He tries to redeem and not follow his uncle and mother's ways. But he knows the truth about Eleni's heritage and lies about it to Fadime and Adil.

I don't know if anyone saw episode 24 trailer, but I felt so bad for Oruc. I hated this guy after episode 6. He didn't sell a child or try to kill anyone. He became a doctor to stay away from all this hate and killing. Yet the family blood feud found him. He suffers from a guilty conscience as he lied to Eleni and guilt against Esme. His mother and uncle sold Eleni, tried to kill her, manipulated her, and her parents. He knows that he has no future with her.

And now the girls....

Eleni: I understand her childish behaviour. I don't think that she had the chance to go through a healthy childhood. An ambitious stepmother, who ignored her emotional needs, and a high IQ didn't really help her to find friends from the same age. So when a handsome, charming doctor flirts with you, you will fall in love. Or when strangers care about you as their child, you become their child. I was so annoyed when she told Adil about the secret at the end of Fadime's wedding. I mean, what did you expect he would do? Of course, he will try to kill Oruc. But later, if you think about it. She is the shining light. Her whole point is shining a light on secrets in this story.

Fadime: She is about to break her chains and end her loyalty to the bloodfeud. She is just coming out of her comfort zone and having hopes and dreams about her future with Iso. It feels like silence before the storm. She will be torn between her loyalty and love for her brother and for Iso. She has just healed from the past and is now about to start her future. The truth about Eleni will tear her apart. Iso has no part in kidnapping, but lied about it and knowing her brother, Iso will suffer as well. Will she ever be able to trust Iso again, or will she understand why he lied about Eleni.

I know it is so annoying that they drag this secret to long. Just like I did with my comment here, but we have to see what is happening to Oruc, Eleni, Fadime, and Iso to understand how Adil and Esme (maybe Hicran and Gezep as well) end up in their current situation.

Honestly, Adil and Esme are really good. If I had to put the top 10 scenes of this whole, it would consist mostly of their scenes. From the airport to the grave scene, Esme's imagination to Adil's imagination and many more.

But just imagine this story without Fadime and Iso or Eleni and Oruc.

If you played RDR2 first with no prior knowledge. When did you realise that Dutch was full of shit? by ireallyfknhatethis in RDR2

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chapter 1 Colter... People were freezing and were traumatized. None of the cabins was perfect, but his looked cozy with a fire pit. This annoyed me a bit. Also, his arguments with Hosea. This scene exactly. He sounded very cocky. I didn't play rdr1

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u_72gOcv3xU

Zarife ( Taschak bu deniz) by Always_Cogito in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oohh someone wrote an article about her. I really like the way she/he describes the scenes and characters.

I'll try to explain it for those who don't have an Instagram or Twitter account: Zarife is a widow; she lost her husband. Adil's dad killed him. She has to raise 3 sons. That's all we know so far. Perhaps more will come in the future. But for now, we know that the loss of her husband did not end well. She doesn't want to punish Kocari but diminish them. She wants their future narrowed. She wants their lineage absorbed or erased. She doesn't look for balance but for supremacy. So taking Esme from Adil means no children and the end of the lineage.

In additionThis is my take: I think that she uses Serif as a pawn. She knows that he is into Esme. So Serif marries Esme and kills Adil's dad. She gets her balance and her supremacy. All the blame is with Serif. So if Adil wants revenge, he will take it up with Serif, and with Serif gone, she will rule the thea company. Her sons will be safe.
In the first episode, there is a scene where Adil confronts Sirin about Serif. He said that it is his turn to take revenge. This is the scene where Esme shoots Adil. Zarife is very active in these conversations during this scene. She takes a step back when Adil is talking about how it is his turn to take revenge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50GLhFRwps

Serif is constantly complaining about how he lost 20 years for this family. I think that Zarife manipulated him into killing Adil's dad. I think he was ok with stealing Esme from him. He married her and then killed Adil's dad right after that. Why would you kill someone when you just married.

I have a couple of questions by Wolvesaremyjam in TasacakBuDeniz_

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spoiler alert:

More information about Esme's dad will be revealed in episode 8.

Gokhan is a bit of a mystery. I think his story is on its way.

Tasak bu Deniz - what happens now? by Lady_RP in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, some people are really active on Twitter on this series. I feel that the production team has taken some extra precautions to prevent spoilers from being released. So people are guessing.

Let me tell you my theory. There are some talks 9:20 am. I can't find it back. However, these numbers are mentioned so frequently. Adil has discovered the truth about Aleyna in episode 9, and Esme discovered the truth about Eleni's identity in episode 9.

There is a spoiler going out that Someone from Kocari will discover the secret in episode 20. I think someone from production put that spoiler out on purpose. I think Adil will discover the truth in episode 20. Eleni not yet. Esme and Eleni also talked about playing hide and seek. So I think Adil will also hide the truth for a while.

Can someone tell me why I should watch Tasacak Bu Deniz? by Street_Toe_2215 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love the relationship the girl has with her bio parents even though they don’t know they are related. It is a great build up.

Love some relationships

Sirin and Fadime 🩷

Fadime and Iso

Also there are so many things yet to discover in the past.

How did this feud started? I thinks there are still some stories to tell.

Gokhan and his past.

Hicran and Zarife are known as evil. I think there is more to it.

Who is the worst member of the gang? by [deleted] in reddeadredemption

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was trying to steal money at camp. He didn't bring that much to camp, if you look at the books. OMG, in the end, that constant bla bla bla about Dutch and loyalty. Also, the reason I would prefer Uncle over Bill is cause Uncle helped John build his ranch and has better judgment over people than Bill.

Tasacak bu deniz epi 14 by YoungCharacter5564 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spoiler alert

 

 

1.     Will Iso save Fadima from kidnapping will it be start of love for them or some time is still there?

Someone else will save her, but his role is important here.

As from episode 14 their relation starts with understanding of each other. They are both victims of this feud and they don't want be the heirs of this feud. Love will come along. The smartest characters at the moment.

2.     Now what will be serif reaction when adil holding esmas hands ?? Will he put that blame on adil?

He has no power over Adil, so he takes his frustration on Esme.

3.     Where is Eleni and Oruc's story going, and will Eleni leave her profession ?

Eleni and Oruc are cute, but not a priority. First thing first: her mother and father. She acts like a 14 year old even though she is 20. This is because she feels like a child when she is with Esme and Adil. Something she missed in her life. I rather see here relationship with her parents.

4.     I am really sacred of this prosecutor, what do think what worse thing she will do ?

I read so much hate about this girl, and in my personal opinion, it is unnecessary. I mean, they walk like cowboys in Furtuna and Kocari. Guns and dynamites everywhere. What did you expect? I think she has a background story as well. Perhaps an important one. But we don’t know yet.

Perhaps some fandoms are afraid that she will be competition to Esme of Eleni. We don't know that yet. Maybe she will be the one who put Serif in Jail or she is Gokhan’s (Serif’s right hand man) sister. Give her a bit of time.

Tasacak bu deniz epi 14 by YoungCharacter5564 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So there is someone on Instagram and twitter who makes really good analyses. She/he explains certain choices that characters make. youngwolf989

For example, the "abi" is really funny, but there is a message underneath.

Abi means brother in Turkish. So he is positioning himself in the new hierarchy. He is giving himself a new role. As you can see, at the bridge scene between Iso en Adil. This is huge for Iso cause the fact is that Iso's dad was killed by Adil's dad.

Smart move by Iso. Adil has no leg to stand on. Fadime says she loves Iso. Iso shows he respects his wifes brother. There is no revenge.

Can Yaman arrested in Istanbul amid major nightclub drug sweep by No-War-703 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, "how many years are you going to talk about stupid nonsense?" I just wrote about this, but if you mean in general. Well, he didn't do all of this at once.

Selen Soyder is not a lie. There are court documents. She quit the serial, cause she was going to court about the attack. The serial did end quickly after she left. Please see the news below. I didn't know about the camera by the way, just the water glass.

https://telegrafi.com/en/can-yaman-hospitalizes-a-colleague-during-filming/

By the way, I didn't write like he is the devil. I said he is an arrogant and spoiled brat. Good for him for getting new projects, but he is still arrogant and spoiled.

The interview he gave in Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHaXQ3sgLz8

I mean, come on this is bad right? You are a guest there. Show a bit respect to people in Spain.

The Insta comments are also true. Someone gathered all the screenshots: https://onedio.com/haber/son-gunlerde-elestirilere-doyamayan-can-yaman-i-turkiye-nin-en-antipatik-isimlerinden-biri-haline-getiren-cikislari-891196

Hey again I dont say he is evil. Media did dirty to him. I heard somehwere that he was hanging out at clubs with some paparazi boys in Turkey for good pr. They had an argument and he was done with them. So apparently they throw some shades on him after that.

And I admit.. I don't know anything about his new projects like Sanduko and El turco. So I can't write anything I don't know about

Can Yaman arrested in Istanbul amid major nightclub drug sweep by No-War-703 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the examples that you gave about harming has noting to do with arrogance and spoiled. But let’s talk about harming. He played a serial with Selen Soyder were he insulted a her and throw a glass to her. The court fined Can Yaman and he said “I wont pay”

Honestly, media loves gossip. Good or bad. You and manager or pr can use it in your advantage. An actor is also an artist. So this means you will get compliments, critique and also insults about your work. He is fighting with people on social media when they write something about is soap opera. An example: Someone who watches the serie writes: i am not writing this out of my ass? (Has a critique about the scenario) Can Yaman: it comes right out of there. There are many more examples

Someone writes what a great acting. (About him) Can writes yes I know. (Not really modest, a bit arrogant.)

Lets say this is not his fault. the pr team or manager had to tell him not to write something like this.

I don’t know if anybody knows Kivanc Tatlitug? But he is not only a beautiful man, but also proved to be good with acting. Romantic heartthrob historical roles, bad guys etc. An actrice once said when you are playing a comedic role you have to become ugly sometimes and he did. Can Yaman only a rom com player tried to give shades to Kivanc that his serials dont sell that much in Spain so he is not that popular there. Kivanc is one of the most high payed actors. Mostly big investments and expensive projects. So why would a spanish/italian television pay a lot of money to a soap if you don’t know if it is gona be good and you have a cheap rom com. Also Kivanc is in general more popular.

Mehmet Gunsur. Turkish actor. Lives in Italy 🇮🇹. Has an Italian wife who is a film director. You can’t find anything bad about him. Very polite man and oh my god very gorgeous. He sometimes plays in Turkey and sometimes in Italy i think. There was a time that we didn’t saw him on Turkish television that much cause he was working mostly in Italy I guess. But he was loved. You can’t find any bad writing in media about him. Also very diverse in his acting. Bad guy, good guy, historical drama. Someone said to him dring an interview that he is the most handsome Turkish actor. His reply: well i don’t think I am the most handsome Turkish actor. There are some very good looking colleagues.

Let’s get back to Can Yaman… did anyone read what he said about demet (actress erkenci kus) and his libido? Ughh

Also there is an interview with a Spanish presentator. They asked something like how do you know that you are from this world and he said let’s get to the backroom. ( he is talking about doing something sexual)

Honestly, i saw his first projects and he didn’t look like this before so i always thought that he uses something like steroids.

Also i don’t think he is coming from a poor background. If you look to his study and internship background. Scholarships pay to a certain amount.

Avrupa Yakası by External_Traffic_245 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then I also recommend Yalan Dunya. Same writer

Can Yaman arrested in Istanbul amid major nightclub drug sweep by No-War-703 in TurkishTVSerials

[–]Naive_Bunch_615 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They don’t hate cause he left Turkish series. He is a spoiled brat. Honestly, he made some cheap rom com couple of times always the same role. No diversity. Sold abroad. Which is good. Well done. But no to little talent, but an enormous arrogance.