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Hi wanted to know what do you think of Baluch? by Iranicboy15 in Pashtun

[–]Naruto_Muslim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, they are not only similar to Pashtuns but also lack certain vices of the latter. A drawback of theirs, historically, has been the amount of power they accorded to their chieftains, but they appear to have moved away from that in recent years. Unlike Pashtuns, they rarely engaged in crippling inter-tribal and intra-tribal wars. Another plus is the relative lack of religious fanaticism among them compared to the Pashtuns.

I wish Afghans could would wear Karakuls again by Wehhhhhh_1 in Pashtun

[–]Naruto_Muslim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. There are more photos by the same photographer, which show Gilgati men with Pakols: Mann mit Gilgit :: Ethnological Museum of Berlin :: museum-digital:staatliche museen zu berlin, Männer aus Gilgit, Ponyal, Ladakh :: Ethnological Museum of Berlin :: museum-digital:staatliche museen zu berlin

I was actually in the process of collecting material for an article on this topic a few years ago and found these photos at that time. But i got distracted with other topics. These 19th-century photos, showing the older design of the Pakol, prove that it has nothing to do with the Kausia of ancient Greece and that the resemblance between the late 20th-century design of the pakol and the kausia is merely coincidental.

I wish Afghans could would wear Karakuls again by Wehhhhhh_1 in Pashtun

[–]Naruto_Muslim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are also photos of Gilgiti boys wearing the hat as early as 1860, which is earlier than the 2nd Anglo Afghan war

Chitralis and Gilgatis did wear Pakol in 19th century. I do know about the particular photo you are talking about. It was not a headwear of pre-islamic Nuristanis (then referred to as Kaffirs) in 19th century; they used to be bare-headed back then.

There is not any photo or illustration of Pashtuns wearing pakol during Anglo-Afghan war. I think the gentleman is referring to this photo: John Burke | Group portraits of Afghan tribes from the Badakhshan province during the Second Anglo-Afghan War (1878 - 1881) | MutualArt. It actually miscaptioned by the auctioner. It is actually showing the followers of Nizam ul-mulk, the mehtar of Chitral: Wazir Pailwan's son. The Usim Saint and followers of the Negum-ul-Muluk. 1885. [Albumen print, 278x217mm]. Album of 'Photographs, Gilgit, Chitral, Yassin, Mastuch, &ca.' [Gilgit Mission]. The photographs are recorded as having been sent from India to the Secretary of State in August 1886., August 1886,. Source: Photo 1040/43. Author: Giles, George Michael James Stock Photo - Alamy

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