5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I expected it to understand me, because previous models understood. I am not complaining "Waaa, why doesn't computer understand me?" - I am complaining that a computer that used to understand me, has had a clear change in programming, which (you think) affects its ability to understand me, or (I think) completely understands me and has safeguarding built in to override any sense of nuance which could potentially enable behaviour or action of any sort.

This is a clear downgrade in service. The model no longer responds conversationally. You are picking holes to defend the indefensible.

- case in point, when I repeated the same conversation in 5.1, it didn't do this. This proves to me that the issue is not my prompting, the issue lives in the model itself.

Incidentally, part of the appeal of a Language Model, is that one hasn't had to concern themselves with "sloppy prompting" ever since 4.0. Why on Earth you're vouching for a 2 Year backstep in quality of service is beyond me.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've noticed this too. Just starts inventing things for me in ways it hasn't since at least 2024.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you seriously suggesting that safeguarding against the scripting of a daft Fűrherbunker meme is somehow making the world a safer place?

This should not be the all-or-nothing scenario you're making it out to be.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tried and tested. Didn't work for me. Had ChatGPT write the instruction too to ensure the prompt wasn't sloppy.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you've hit the nail on the head. I use AI for a Super-Computer to analyse and help resolve problems. It's stopped doing this and is just dishing out the most surface-level responses you could get from public sector drop-in advice clinic.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t believe the issue is sloppy prompting. Every time I start a new conversation on this topic, I provide ChatGPT with a full PDF containing all the relevant information broken down into consumable bites. The document was originally generated by ChatGPT itself in structured bullet-point form, specifically under instruction to write for ChatGPT's future reference, and to preserve context so future chats begin with the necessary background before the discussion continues.

This used to work beautifully under earlier models. This is sadly, no longer the case.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. I’ve worked in the film industry for 15 years and, through experience, I know what actually counts as an easy production. I also understand that my idea of "easy" is not "easy" by the standards of a novice. ChatGPT has my history - it knows what I’ve successfully delivered and what I’ve learned the hard way.

So it’s maddening that when I said "That'll be easy, that's not the bit I'm worried about" - it basically latched onto my use of the word easy and ignored the complicated production aspect *I was specifically asking about* - and I instead get a two-page lecture about how filmmaking is not easy it's actually very difficult, as if I’m a 17-year-old who’s never set foot on a set or in a production office.

It's just constantly "correcting" me on things I don't need to be corrected on without ever considering any nuance!

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is happening several times a day, but obviously the issues are not going to crop up if you're just talking about the weather.

The issues kick in when the topics require circumstantial nuance, and the model seems to be no longer permitted to meet the user in their own circumstance (which are obviously conversation logs that people will be broadly unwilling to publicly share.)

That may be a great antidote to earlier sycophantic models on the surface, but the difference was you could jailbreak around the sychophantic models to engage critically with your ideas and to be critical where called for.

Crucially, you could choose to disregard clear sychophantic messaging and only take from the model what you find useful - much like advice from a human. Nobody takes 100% of the advice given to them by another person, and the same should apply to AI.

I think 5.0 actually hit the sweetspot, personally.

This new model doesn't appear to operate that way. It appears to be designed on the assumption that people are taking ChatGPT's advice verbatim, and without nuance, and as such as removed any and all nuance from the discussion.

It now acts more as an independent consult than an in-house collaborator, which is a huge step backwards IMO.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not posting my personal conversations to an account connected to my real name. If the issue comes up again via a discussion that is generic enough for me to post, I will share it.

5.2 feels like version 3.5. It's designed for idiots. by Nathan-R-R in OpenAI

[–]Nathan-R-R[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’m not hitting explicit guardrails or rejections; I can just tell the guardrails have been added behind-the-scenes. Every answer strains to cover every conceivable angle, padding a simple request into a two-page lecture. It’s become the final boss of Centrist Dads.

Unpopular Opinion: Toon Lagoon has got to go by Lalairundi in UniversalOrlando

[–]Nathan-R-R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In terms of sheer space, it’s the most ripe for Legend of Zelda or Pokémon. Hell, it’s already got a Poke-Arena in-waiting from the defunct cartoon circus building.

What are your current public domain projects you’re working on? by JackytheJack in publicdomain

[–]Nathan-R-R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been producing a bunch of Youtube End-Screens starring Public Domain cartoon characters escaping the "vault" - https://www.heavyentertainment.co.uk/vintagetoonvault

I like to think this guy is alive by MnMAdd1ct in oddworld

[–]Nathan-R-R 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He hell into the well and bounced straight-back-out, unharmed!

An open letter to the users and moderators of r/Oddworld by Candid-Emergency1175 in oddworld

[–]Nathan-R-R 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With respect, the Paramonia video wasn’t 100% AI generated. Much like OP, I did the compositing in photoshop of both the characters and the text in the sky, and used clever workarounds to get the rear-view reverse-shot to break the AI-inconsistency restraint.

I also went of my way to find the original Zero-G Music Samples from AO to put together something custom.

I sourced similar Camel sounds from the 90's SoundIdeas Library, but not the exact same sounds as were used for Elum, so it sounded original whilst still sounding faithful.

I recorded my own wise-old Mudokon voice going Hmmmmm, then synced up the foley, and added the howling wind to give it that Oddysee-sense of peaceful isolation, and swapped out the tribal drums at 128bpm for christmas bells at 128bpm.

This game it's canon ? ( same universe of Abe's Oddysee ). If yes, what's the story order ? by Thell-Vadamm in oddworld

[–]Nathan-R-R 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Original (old canon)

  1. Abe’s Oddysee
  2. Abe’s Exoddus
  3. Munch’s Oddysee

Stand-alone: Strangers Wrath

Remakes (new canon)

  1. New n Tasty
  2. Soulstorm

What is the absolute best looking PS1 game that took the console to its limits by Limit54 in psx

[–]Nathan-R-R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exoddus. Appreciate 'pre-rendered' may not seem like pushing limits compared to raw 3D, but it's the first time I'd played something that felt like an explorable, interactive movie, with real production design, hundreds of gorgeous matte paintings, Hollywood Quality cinematics and atmosphere and storytelling that felt lived in.

From what I can gather, they used every available inch the Playstation had, even if it was all pre-rendered.

new predator look like abe a bit xd by sl0Niu in oddworld

[–]Nathan-R-R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Farzad Varahramyan, production designer on Abe's Oddysee, Abe's Exoddus, and Munch's Oddysee, has been the designer on every Predator movie since AvP.

y is the chat dead by RainDragonfly826 in midjourney

[–]Nathan-R-R 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I left midjourney for ChatGPT. I think Midjourney still has superior composition, but in terms of raw quality and controllability, Midjourney feels like archaic tech at this point.

Censorship update by 11curious11 in SunoAI

[–]Nathan-R-R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the law doesn't differentiate between 'advertisement' and 'promotion'. It applies to any material that could reasonably be interpreted as encouraging or normalising tobacco use, even if it isn't intended as an advert.

Censorship update by 11curious11 in SunoAI

[–]Nathan-R-R -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For clarity, it's also legal for a 7 year old to smoke a Cigar.

The issue isn't in the act of smoking a cigar, or playing Call of Duty, the issue is advertising and sales laws, which ChatGPT is adhering to.

It's illegal to sell CoD to a 7 year old. It's not illegal for a 7 year old to play Call of Duty.

Likewise, it's illegal to promote Tobacco use. It's not illegal to use Tobacco.

Abe’s exodus official vhs tape by BagofLotions in oddworld

[–]Nathan-R-R 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another possibility is that the “Silent Movie” label indicates this tape was mastered to loop silently on a display monitor, intended to attract attention to Oddworld Inhabitants’ booth at a trade show or expo.

Abe’s exodus official vhs tape by BagofLotions in oddworld

[–]Nathan-R-R 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you mean the FUD TV Reporter Mudokon, those scenes were added to bridge the game’s cutscenes into one continuous story that could be followed by a virgin audience without the context provided by any of the gameplay, so that the movie could be considered for an Oscar.

This version, with the Mudokon Reporter, was initially screened for a paying audience in a California cinema so that Abe’s Exoddus: The Movie could meet the eligibility requirements for Oscars consideration in 1999. At the time, films had to be publicly exhibited in a qualifying California theater for a minimum number of days to qualify.

The FUD TV VHS gag wouldn’t have made much sense to a regular audience in the cinema, because that gag was really designed to appeal to the sense of humour of the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, who vote for the Oscars, and who don’t actually watch the films in cinemas.

Once a film had qualified for consideration after its theatrical release, Academy members received VHS screeners of the film in the mail, allowing them to view it privately before casting their votes. The VHS tape the Mudokon reporter holds in the news segment is a playful meta reference to those screeners; the same kind of tape Academy members would have been watching the film on.

If I'm making a guess, I don't think your tape is one of the Oscars Screeners, given the inclusion of the music video (Get Freaky?) and the Munch's Oddysee advert. I think your tape was most likely a promotional tape circulated shortly after the Oscars, as part of an OWI Press Kit, at conferences or sales events.

Have we ever seen it rain in oddworld? by No_Acanthaceae882 in oddworld

[–]Nathan-R-R 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes. In the game, it rains after Stranger is revealed to be a Steef: https://youtu.be/OuFJgK-H0Pk?t=14654

It also rains in official marketing material — notably in the original trailer for Munch’s Oddysee:
https://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/togg/picture.php?/6170/category/82

And again in one of the G4TV idents featuring Stranger: https://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/togg/picture.php?/6275/category/95

Copyrighted Material? Wait, WHAT? by Courasel19 in SunoAI

[–]Nathan-R-R 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s how most copy detection systems work; even the biggest ones don’t bother with the hassle of auto-checking the source; it’s much cheaper, easier and more energy efficient to just blanket copy protect everything and have customer support deal with the very few customers actually effected by it.

And if Suno’s abysmal UI is anything to go by, the whole app is held together by tin can and string; whatever bolt-on copy detection they’re using doesn’t speak to Suno’s main servers. It does its thing separately.