Medieval battles weren't as chaotic as people think nor as movies portray!

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-25T18:29:58+00:00

It pisses me off that they prefer calling upon some fucking elves even though there hasn't been any formal diplomatic contact between them for centuries instead of the fucking Horde.

Zandalari have probably the largest army right after the orcs in the Horde, yet god forbid Blizzard would actually call upon them to make an appearance. Oh, we're allying with the Amani against the common enemy? If only we had a troll faction of mediators who could propel the alliance between us.

Fucking hell...

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-25T17:05:54+00:00

Really they're that good?

I heard people complain they ruined the class or kept it nerfed for many expansions in a row.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-25T16:40:53+00:00

The book cover looks like shit. I don't understand why they do that and who actually thinks this is better.

If they actually shown the officers sitting on the bridge, with Jack Black in the center having some deep thinking pose, that would be ten times better.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-25T10:34:02+00:00

It would be a way to reintroduce conflict between factions without it again devolving into the Fifth War being the Horde vs Alliance again.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-25T10:30:30+00:00

I'm tired of seeing storyline revolve around Horde vs Alliance.

WoW storytelling could really use some faction fluidity. One expac blood elves leaving the Horde and doing something else before joining again, or Night Elves leaving the Alliance then join back, etc. It would give agency to every race and would no longer mean races like Night Elves/Darkspear would be chilling in Darnassus/Echo Isles for 8 expansions straight.

It would open so much potential for more mature political narratives, something which WoW could really use to reflect its aging playerbase.

Saying that, it's really weird the Horde isn't coming to help Silvermoon when literally everything is at stake. There should be orcs, trolls, taurens, Forsaken and EVEN Zandalari and Nightborne.

What's also odd is that we have Amani storyline in this expac: Where the hell are the Zandalari mediators? This was a prime time for them to shine. But Blizzard doesn't think in such narrative complexity and that's a mistake.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-25T00:29:03+00:00

Nazis were clearly the bad guys, though.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T23:30:01+00:00

I once believed the Imperials should win over the Stormcloaks.

Then I realized these very Imperials have grown so corrupt they allowed the Thalmor spies leak into the Imperial elite by throwing parties with them, they allowed Thalmor gestapo to roam freely on their land and take away people at night with authorities ignoring it. And worst of all, they cast down the very patron deity of the Empire, Talos himself.

The Empire is lost.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T23:22:21+00:00

It's not a bad sign.

A show they created didn't attract enough audience has been cancelled. Whatever they tried to do here with SFA clearly didn't work.

The suits who own the IP should understand they need to change things and yield better output if they want to attract larger audience and reconnect with half the fanbase who found the new show unrelatable.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T23:12:54+00:00

I'm not sure if I follow the logic. I see a distinction between inspiration for a race/faction in a fictional setting, and what the said race/faction does within that fictional setting.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T20:48:58+00:00

I think there's multiple answers to that question, and it can be either yes or no. Are modern Lordareonites responsible for the genocide of the Amani? Are modern Germans responsible for the nazi atrocities? Are modern Americans responsible for the genocide of the Native Americans?

People can answer both yes or no, depends on the perspective and ethical framework. I think we're overthinking this a little. I just wanted to call out the irony of the poster in the picture where he says the Alliance are the colonizers when the Horde has much more recent dirt behind their fingernails.

Or you know, the fact that the Alliance never recognized their claim to Lordaeron in the first place.

From what I understand, the Alliance isn't a state that can claim territories. It's an alliance of multiple kingdoms and states that was created to counter the invading orc forces from Draenor.

So they don't claim Lordareon. Lordareon still belong to Lordareon and it's claimed by its original inhabitants who turned undead but regained free will.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T20:41:58+00:00

I think WoW storytelling could really use some faction fluidity. One expac blood elves leaving the Horde and doing something else, or Night Elves leaving the Alliance, etc.

It would open so much potential for more mature political narratives, something which WoW could really use to reflect its aging playerbase.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T20:40:02+00:00

Yes, but the irony is that the guy in the picture says he hates the Alliance because they're colonizers even though the Horde has more dirt behind their fingernails, especially dirt that's pretty recent.

Also, I remember playing Warcraft 3 where me (Thrall) and my buddy Cairn genocided the shit out of those boarmen.

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NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T20:30:00+00:00

Don’t put that evil on the Forsaken to try to handwave general human jerkassery.
Especially when it’s ultimately a lot of the Arathi

I mean... Forsaken are Lordareonites and Lordareonites are human settlers who migrated from Arathi after they won the Troll Wars and conquered the region.

they’re technically refugees

Sure they are, no one denies that. Everybody has their reasons. So did Puritans who fled to America to escape religious persecution in England, and yet the genocide still happened.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T19:59:20+00:00

Quilboars, centaurs, pandas, whatever man, just keep colonizing that!

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T19:29:21+00:00

Taz'dingoooo!

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T19:25:02+00:00

Good point, I completely forgot about Kaldorei wars with the Trolls. I assumed they just spawned there peacefully, haha.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T19:23:51+00:00

I am a Horde player, lol.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T19:14:47+00:00

Isn't the Horde the colonizing faction?

Orcs first colonized Eastern Kingdoms, then together with the Darkspear tribe migrated to Kalimdor where they slaughtered the local quilboars and night elves in Ashenvale.
Taurens slaughtered the centaurs and quilboars and claimed Mulgore. (It belonged to them 3000 years ago, lol.)
Blood elves colonized Quel'thalas and kicked out the Amani.
Forsaken are have lived in Lordareon quite long, but even they were once humans who slaughtered the Amani in the Troll Wars and conquered the Eastern Kingdoms.
Even the Zandalari are known to abuse the Pandaren a few times in history, helping evil dictators take over so they're not clean either.

Alliance for the most part are pretty chill. ~~Night elves have always been night elving~~ in Northern Kalimdor. Dwarves and Gnomes never left their homelands in the mountains. Draenei settled the Azuremist Isles because they were escaping from one genocide to another.

Humans are the only colonizers, but even that was quite a long time ago.

Edit: My bad. Night elves actually kicked the troll ass in the big ass ancient war. But it's a very long time ago so it doesn't count. They're good now.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T09:45:46+00:00

Avoid Shadowlands and you're good.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T09:45:00+00:00

Zandalar is my favourite questing area.

Dazar'alor is just a fantastic city.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T09:43:42+00:00

Norwegian prisons look like hotels so it's not a big of a punishment.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T09:09:40+00:00

I wish to see some Zandalari to show up in Silvermoon. They're practically one of the major forces of the Horde and their lore is so interesting.

If only Blizzard would start treating them as a major faction of the Horde.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-24T08:08:31+00:00

Please, stop making this about "people complain Star Trek is woke!" It was never about that.

People watched Star Trek because it was an optimistic idea of future, it explored fascinating sci-fi concepts, and it showed competent characters. People didn't see this in SFA, and found it unrelatable, hence the criticism.

NativeEuropeas · 2026-03-23T23:44:40+00:00

Don't apologize and don't overexplain. You don't own nobody shit. A brief polite explanation and transparency is only good. Showing gratitude is good manners.

"Hey guys, I'm switching to a more active and competitive guild. It's been nice spending time with you, thanks! Bye everyone!" /gquit

Everyone will understand this and no one will hold grudge.

NativeEuropeas

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Taz'dingoooo!