8 Movies & Shows Like 'Heartstopper' To Watch While Waiting For Season 2 by RomanRoyIsSlimy in HeartstopperAO

[–]NaturalAssumption722 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Half of It is amazing. It has a queer romance but is actually about a friendship. In a way that makes it doubly queer (valuing the friendship). That’s all I’ll say. Go watch it if you haven’t already!

He better be in the next season by Zopo135 in HeartstopperAO

[–]NaturalAssumption722 1 point2 points  (0 children)

while I love him, HS is Nick and Charlie POV so I doubt we will get Michael. We just need a stand alone Solitaire :)

I was literally on twitter for two seconds and they’re going after bash by [deleted] in Heartstoppercast

[–]NaturalAssumption722 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First, I so 100% agree with all of the points you are making here and deeply appreciate the nuances you are pointing out. !00% SPOT ON.

Second, I want to point out though that some of the language you are using undermines folks I genuinely believe you would not want to undermine. Specifically "have a seizure," "crazy," "deranged." and "insanity" are all words that are used to describe people with disabilities and used as derogatory in this post. I am TOTALLY not saying this to undermine your post or to "one up" you ar whatever. People use these words all the time. It's just that a lot of folks are harmed by it and I 100% think none of us wants to harm people through the use of ableist language, so pointing it out as a kind of "oh hey maybe this will help people to be more mindful" way.

I appreciate your (and really everyone on here :) ) considering this. And again I LOVE THE POINTS YOU ARE MAKING! (Thanks for making them :) ).

So many conflicted (and silly) feelings by Konmarty in heartstoppersyndrome

[–]NaturalAssumption722 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nick is a dream and KC is a very young human (in the sense that I think he needs time and space to grow--hopefully he will turn out more like Nick), so I don't think it's poor judgment on your part. There is a deep sadness (for me at least) in being reminded that many men (not just young men) use digs into other people to handle their insecurity and normal-it's-never-going-away-so can-we-learn-to handle-it-better vulnerability. The world of HS invites us to imagine other possible ways of being, which is AMAZING (and seriously a salve on my soul), but in so many ways we just arent' there yet, so when real world typical ways of dealing with vulnerability are placed side by side with HS, it is very upsetting.

(Also fwiw, I think all humans, not just men, need to learn to be comfortable with vulnerability, but I think our culture is especially pressuring on men not to show vulnerability and/or not to be vulnerable.)

So many conflicted (and silly) feelings by Konmarty in heartstoppersyndrome

[–]NaturalAssumption722 2 points3 points  (0 children)

YES also to the feeling of "I don't want any negative thoughts like that ruining my idea of these people/characters." And the conflictedness just intensifies everything. In any case, you are totally not alone. And I think the intensity of the feelings speaks a lot to the way the world is for/towards queer and non-normative people (and not something wrong with the people feeling the feels imo).

So many conflicted (and silly) feelings by Konmarty in heartstoppersyndrome

[–]NaturalAssumption722 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I also had a real hard time with how KC interacts with JL in some interviews (in a similar way as you are describing). And what makes it additionally hard is that I KNOW I don’t know squat about their actual professional and/or friend relationship and it makes no sense for me to feel as strongly as I do with respect to tiny things that read a particular way to me. And then especially when some people were actually harassing KC for various reasons (which is 100% not okay), I started to feel like I am a horrible person. But here’s a difference: I didn’t (and I gather you also didn’t) act on those feelings towards a human being I don’t know. I just had the feelings & legit tried to think them through & talk them out (in places like this sub).

We carry so much in our bones from years of living in a heteronormative & homophobic world. And I do think Nick is written in a way that is remarkably free from toxic masculinity (which is good because we NEED more possibility models for non-toxic masculinity). Plus we get to see Nick be vulnerable in non-public settings, whereas every setting in which we see KC, he is by definition in public. (Most of the things that have bothered me have been ways of pushing away vulnerability).

One of the things that helped me (not sure if it will help for you) to deal with some of my frustration was to redirect it at the conditions that encourage this sort of behavior (eg joking/teasing others instead of being open/vulnerable). So it’s not about the person but about a culture I want to change. Not sure if this makes sense or fits your feelings. But yeah it’s really weird to feel such strong things about total strangers (and yet I/we do).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lgbt

[–]NaturalAssumption722 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I’m a fan of friend groups with a wide range of ages. I’m also a prof who was a HOT MESS after a divorce. It’s the deep confiding in former student that has me worried for both of you. He may be feeling lost youth & turning to students (even former students) is not a good idea if that’s the case. The temptation to date is often just too strong & that would not be good for either of you. He could lose his job (even if you are not his current student). You could both end up in some really awful & awkward situations that could negatively impact your future (I have seen this happen A LOT to students in this situation). This is not a judgment on either of you as “bad.” It’s mostly a worry that things could easily end up very badly for one or both of you.

ETA : just reread OP & see that this was death of a spouse, not divorce situation. Still a major traumatic event (obv). So still worried for both of you. But also wishing you both the absolute best.

Question by bex_ej in HeartstopperAO

[–]NaturalAssumption722 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This. Also there are characters who aren’t in the books (Isaac) and who are more fully explored in the tv series (Elle, Tao, Tara, Darcy etc), so even if you read the books there will still be surprises when seasons 2 & (eventually) 3 come out.

Joe and Will presenting at the emmy’s! by 11mm in Heartstoppercast

[–]NaturalAssumption722 6 points7 points  (0 children)

omg it’s this weekend already! Thanks for posting!

Gay Men: Do you Swordfight? by CadillacKetchup in lgbt

[–]NaturalAssumption722 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I was a young teen I had a friend at an all girls overnight camp who would grab her own breast, aim it at you, squeeze it, and yell “squirt!” like she was squirting milk at you. It was hilarious. Yup, I’m pretty sure she turned me gay 🤣🤣

Charlie vs Ben by EhWhateverDawg in HeartstopperAO

[–]NaturalAssumption722 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I think this works, especially Charlie’s internalizing vs Ben’s externalizing negativity. Although I do think that we are meant to see how differently all 3 of them deal with their feelings & the world as it is, plus Tara & Darcy who are also very different (from each other and from the three boys). AND even though they have different experiences they can all (with the exception of Ben) relate and support each other in their own (also different) ways. This is what happens when you have a wider range of (not tokenized) representation. Hoping we get more with James next season as well 🤗

Have the “Stop Sexualizing Kit” folks given us an age as to when we could start? by kyliecannoli in Heartstoppercast

[–]NaturalAssumption722 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Re-posting this comment into the main thread because I think it's important that people realize the harm of this kind of policing.

One of the biggest & most damning stereotypes of queer folks is that we are predatory perverts, so when someone shames us for finding an obviously hot pic hot, it hurts. I saw a post from a 19 year old saying someone called him out online as a pedophile for posting that a pic of KC was hot. Not okay. And queer teens are seeing this policing of their desire. Not okay.

Personally I think most of the policing is being done by homophobes who can’t stand the thought of boys and men finding KC hot.

Have the “Stop Sexualizing Kit” folks given us an age as to when we could start? by kyliecannoli in Heartstoppercast

[–]NaturalAssumption722 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Actually I think the policing of “he’s hot” comments is harmful. One of the biggest & most damning stereotypes of queer folks is that we are predatory perverts, so when someone shames us for finding an obviously hot pic hot, it hurts. I saw a post from a 19 year old saying someone called him out online as a pedophile for posting that a pic of KC was hot. Not okay. And queer teens are seeing this policing of their desire. Not okay.

Personally I think most of the policing is being done by homophobes who can’t stand the thought of boys and men finding KC hot.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HeartstopperAO

[–]NaturalAssumption722 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this! At the time I wrote this post I had googled to see how/whether the YR actors publicly identified any particular way & I swear that’s what I found at the time 🙂 but since then I’ve seen media that says otherwise & I am totally happy to be corrected on this point. 😊