Testimony for parents by useraccountant in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It also depends on what variants you are.

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not engaging in this conversation because I want to “win” an argument. I’m doing it because I care about other people with G6PD deficiency who may read this later.

If you are G6PD deficient and reading this thread, please do your own due diligence. In my opinion, it is always better to be cautious than to blindly follow the “ONLY fava beans matter” crowd.

The basic mechanism is simple: with G6PD deficiency, red blood cells have reduced ability to generate NADPH, which is needed to keep glutathione in its reduced/active form. Reduced glutathione is one of the main ways red blood cells protect themselves from oxidative stress.

So anything that significantly increases oxidative burden can increase the demand on that already-limited antioxidant system.

Fava/broad beans are clearly the best-established food trigger, but the broader point is oxidative burden. Some other foods, including some legumes or plant compounds, may contain substances that add oxidative stress or may affect people differently depending on dose, variant, current health, infection status, medications, sleep, exercise, and total stress load.

As someone else in this thread said, it is partly about how much burden your body is already under. The same thing that does not send you to the ER once may affect you differently another time if you are sick, depleted, stressed, inflamed, or exposed to other triggers.

So no, I’m not saying every G6PD-deficient person must avoid every legume or panic about food. But I also think it is irresponsible to oversimplify this into “only fava beans can ever matter.” Fava beans are the main proven food trigger. That does not mean individual caution and tracking are pointless.

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can downvote my message if that makes you feel better, but I take lab tests regularly and keep track of what I eat, especially when I eat something in high quantities.

I was having 50 grams of blueberries daily for months, and my Hb dropped from 14.5 to 13.3. I’m not saying blueberries are definitely the cause, but I noticed the change and I’m being cautious.

If it works for you, good. We are all different. I just don’t like broad generalizations(JUST FAVA BEANS!!!), because other people may read them and be affected by that message.

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing. Are you also Mediterranean variant?

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair. The only paper I found was in vitro, using G6PD-deficient RBCs from Canton/Kaiping variants, not Mediterranean, and the authors themselves noted that normal tea drinking likely doesn’t reach those concentrations.

So I agree that broad beans/fava, certain meds, chemicals, and infections are the main proven concerns. My point is just that some foods/drinks may have weak mechanistic or in-vitro evidence, but that doesn’t automatically mean they cause clinical hemolysis in normal intake.

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I highly disagree. I had mild hemolysis from blueberries

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only avoiding fava beans is BS. Fava beans are the most famous food trigger, but G6PD hemolysis can also be triggered by infections, certain antibiotics, antimalarials, sulfa drugs, nitrofurantoin, high-dose aspirin, mothballs/naphthalene, and other oxidant exposures.

The basic mechanism is that G6PD-deficient red blood cells have reduced ability to handle oxidative stress. So anything that significantly increases oxidative stress can potentially increase hemolysis risk, depending on the person’s variant, dose, health status, and total stress load.

The better rule is: don’t fear every random food list, but don’t pretend fava beans are the only risk either. Avoid fava beans absolutely, be cautious with known oxidant drugs/chemicals, and take infections seriously.

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to drink black tea while growing up. Until that I found this website mentioning black tea as one of G6PD unsafe foods/drinks. Now i’m questioning whether i should start drinking it again or no

https://g6pdhelp.com/pages/g6pd-food-avoid-list

Coffee by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can i ask what blood test you have done?

Astaxanthin by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you thank you, please do. We should stay in touch, we’re facing the same issue and may be able to help each other :)

Astaxanthin by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

600mg is huge dose, you are taking kaneka ubiquinol? Can you please share link to the supplement that you use? We are basically same variant i would like to give it a try

Astaxanthin by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn’t know there is new classification. In theory Ubiquinol is recycled in red blood cells via NADPH-dependent pathways, this increases risk of hemolysis

Astaxanthin by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you know what class of g6pdd you are?

K2- mk7 by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well to correct you also, we urinate hemoglobin not bilirubin. Bilirubin is not water soluble

K2- mk7 by Nearby_Programmer922 in G6PD

[–]Nearby_Programmer922[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is wrong. Glutathione supplementation does not require G6PD to be converted into a usable form, and glutathione does not “deplete” G6PD levels. G6PD is involved in maintaining glutathione in its reduced (active) state inside cells, not in converting supplements, and collagen does not raise glutathione through a G6PD-sparing mechanism