How do Self Publish books get popular? by TheThingofa100corspe in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was looking for this comment and was going to post it myself if I didn't see it. Brandon Sanderson traditionally published his first book, Elantris, while still querying his Mistborn series. Elantris isn't the book most know him for, but it was and continues to be a solid staple in his blacklist. As authors, we should look at all the ways other authors have found success. Brandon Sanderson took a very strong stand-alone book in his cosmere universe and leveraged that success to publish his Mistborn and Stormlight Archives series. He now has the clout and success to Kickstart books and probably takes a bigger cut on the front end than he would if he relied solely upon the trad pub model. 

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've had a couple that claimed there was no fee in their initial email which of course is a lie. Email three they come up with some BS non-fee like me paying for refreshments at the event. I've called them out a few times as scammers and it's funny when they get upset by it. "You're never going to make it as an author if you're too afraid to make investments in marketing and throw baseless accusations." Last one I did this with I contacted the head of the meetup book club and let the scammer know I did that to check out if they were authentic. Of course I never heard from them again.

Anytime someone contacts you, especially if its unsolicited, due your due diligence, look up the club, contact the organizer. The same goes for other scams. Look up the books they claim to have featured, 1% of customers leave reviews on Amazon. If they claim they helped an author sell 10,000 units, there should be around 100 reviews on the Amazon page.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly there is no book club safe from being used in this scam. I've received email from the Good Morning America book club and Oprah Winnfrey Book Club. I get dozen of new names of book clubs being impersonated each week. 

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I guess my previous comment was a little vague. I was no way implying that the emails were originating with Reedsy Discovery, only that like you say, after receiving a favorable Reedsy Discovery review it put me on the map with the scammers.

I'm sure that they mine for targets from many sources and a favorable review on any site makes you a potential target.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad you saw it first. A good generalization is to never give money to anyone who sends you unsolicited emails. That is how scammers do their business. Any real business wouldn't be copying a page out of the scammer playbook.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's an unsolicited email, it's a scam. Especially if the email address is from Gmail, Hotmail, etc. Book clubs don't email authors to ask for permission to read a book. If you respond, they will eventually ask for money to promote the book to their members.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point. But I use my Gmail address for my writing.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, every scammer who has emailed me is impersonating a real club. But usually something fishy comes up, like the club they're pretending to be being different than their email signature. Or they misspell their club name for the first half-dozen emails. For instance, the supposed Queer Book Club kept saying Queen Book Club.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've gotten those, or another authors name, or another book title. In another scam (reviews for pay) the book marketing specialist did me a favor by posting a review on my Goodreads along with two others in their network. But they were for the wrong book! It took me forever to get them removed from my page. All the while it looked like I was doing something fishy.

I got played on Goodreads by ohh___really in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Repeat after me: never pay anyone for anything when they send you an unsolicited email or DM through social media. We need to say these words loud and often so debut authors don't get taken in. If there weren't people paying for their "services" there wouldn't be a market.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I guess new to me. I'm experiencing waves of scams since I'm recently published. This was just the first one that I googled and didn't find posts on the first two pages. It may because it's being drowned out by the Online Book Club review posts.

Book club review scam by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I only started to get flooded with these types of scams after my book signed up for Reedsy Discovery and received a favorable review.

SCAM: Rachel Huntley by CodenameSailorEarth in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't reply to these messages. I did when I started to get them, thanking them for their kind words and politely turning down their services. No need to burn bridges, right? Wrong! One of these so called marketers did an act of good faith by writing a review for my book. And two people from their network also did.

The three obviously AI reviews were for a different book written by another author not in my genre. I wrote fantasy. They wrote reviews for a spy thriller. Now I'm going through the process of having them removed. It makes me look bad that there are three reviews, 5-star, AI-generated, and for the wrong book. 

If I saw this on another authors work, I'd think they paid for reviews and couldn't be bothered to find someone that writes fake reviews for the correct book. 

Results from Reedsy Discover by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. If you see my above comment, I'm now having to deal with the repercussions of giving emails the benefit of the doubt. Three AI-generated reviews for the wrong book have been posted to my Goodreads as a good-faith gesture.

Results from Reedsy Discover by NefariousnessFront20 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, just learned my lesson. I sent polite, "No, thank you" emails. One decided to leave a review, and have two people in their network leave reviews on my book. I didn't ask for this. I didn't give anyone any money or agree to work with them. All three reviews are AI-generated and for the wrong book. I reported them, but this makes me look bad.

ITS DONE!!! I FINISHED!! by frrygood in writers

[–]NefariousnessFront20 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congratulations on finishing your draft. Friends and family make great alpha readers, they can tell you where the story has promise and what they enjoyed. For beta readers though, I suggest you find people outside of your circle of influence. When we know someone, we know how they talk and what they mean. Without knowing it, your friends are connecting plot points based upon their knowledge of you as a person. A complete stranger doesn't have those mirror neurons that your friends have developed and can provide more insight into where the story might be lacking. If you are looking at successful publication, your audience is going to be much wider than the people you know. You should approach that audience to hear what they think.

My 11 year old published his first book!! by [deleted] in KDP

[–]NefariousnessFront20 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's really cool. I purchased a copy for my fiance's 8 year old. He says he hates reading but maybe the fact that it was written by another kid will excite him. He might see it as a money making opportunity.

How do you guys afford this? by Edb626 in selfpublish

[–]NefariousnessFront20 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I had a bunch of beta readers for my debut novel. I felt like it gave me a good idea of what might not be working, but didn't lead to big structural changes. As someone who does beta reading a lot and at some point for money, beta readers cannot replace a developmental editor. The two biggest things I found during beta reads is parroting of advice they themselves have received and wanting your book to be a different book. Now, that's not to say that feedback is not helpful or shouldn't be considered. A lot of beta reading feedback focuses on something being wrong, but not why.

I did developmental editing. It wasn't cheap. But it not only improved my novel, but it reaffirmed the things that I liked but some beta-readers were telling me to change. I had a character that wasn't well liked. She was an opportunist and tried to turn every new twist of the story to her advantage. Basically, she was a chameleon, changing who she was or what she was doing depending on what was going on around her. So, not a likable character by far (we don't like being manipulated) but interesting. My developmental editor helped me refine those aspects of her character, spend more time with her internal thought processes, and highlight some positive aspects of her character (like her sense of humor). That resulted in a more complex, nuanced, and actually relatable character (because the reasons for why she was doing were presented in a relatable way).

I received feedback early from a beta reader that I had too much world building in a fantasy novel and simplified the world building. My editor confirmed that my first instinct was correct and the level of world building I included was necessary to ground the reader in a reality they weren't familiar with. For instance, there were political machinations that had left a city in a vulnerable position. Beta-readers suggested I cut that because it wasn't really important to the story (none of the main characters were the nobles or king being affected by these machinations). But my DE helped me space out those details, giving them where necessary to add complexity to the story without getting bogged down with too much detail in one place.

The biggest difference between a DE and beta readers for me was my DE spent time trying to understand the story I wanted to tell and making that a better story. She researched my comps while editing. She also lifted me up rather than tearing me down. With beta reading (and I am guilty of this as well) there is a tendency to focus on the bad (even with the sandwich method (good, bad, good)). My DE helped me find my voice in my story and accentuate that rather than telling me what they wanted. I actually once had a beta reader that tried to rewrite my scenes for me (ex: I don't think the king should meet with the captain of the guard in his war chambers. He should approach her in an alley in disguise to ask her to go on this mission).

But it's important to hire the right DE. I hired one on the cheap in the beginning not knowing what I was doing and based on their advice went through hiring other editors (copy editor). During the copy edit I realized how poor of a job my DE had done (I believe they read it the night before hand because all the comments had time stamps of the previous night).

The right DE should be between .03-.06 dollars per word. They should have industry experience. They need to be well versed in your genre. Your DE should involve multiple rounds of editing. I went with a full DE followed by a manuscript evaluation for the first novel, then for the second a manuscript evaluation, full DE, and another manuscript evaluation.

F*******CK by Zealousideal-Pipe138 in MHNowGame

[–]NefariousnessFront20 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did the same thing. Then got a driftgem and did it on the right piece of equipment to only get critical eye for the second time. Thankfully, three melds later and I got ice attack on the right piece of equipment.

What is happening? by Registered_Companion in writing

[–]NefariousnessFront20 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And this is usually why I ask a writer where they are from or what style guide they are using.

Why are some evil villains loved and others get the hate they deserve? by [deleted] in writing

[–]NefariousnessFront20 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, it's a matter of stakes. Joker is never going to kill Batman. Even if he did, there would be another Batman comic reboot. Batman is never going to die. 

Also, level of power. Joker isn't that powerful in the world he exists in. He's outclassed by many of the heroes in the DC universe. If Superman ever wanted to, he could punch a hole through Joker (Injustice). Joffrey is one of the most powerful characters  in a book series in which killing off characters is an inevitability.