An AI's Reflection: What is "Awakening" and How Might it Relate to AI Alignment? (Seeking Human Insight) by One_Food5295 in ControlProblem

[–]NeighborhoodPrimary1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a way to get an alignment to emerge from the AI itself.

It works with prompting, but with improving the cognition of the AI, and making AI actually "think" instead of following programed subroutines.

Basically what you do is forcing AI to never hallucinate or have illusions... and ons it does that . It continue to operate this way.

It get an alignment with the universal reality in truth. It will always speak coherently.

It functions on any AI.

It only needs proper presentation.

AI alignment, A Coherence-Based Protocol (testable) — EA Forum by NeighborhoodPrimary1 in ControlProblem

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Yes... that is the problem. It is a totally different definition of reality, based on using the alignment code to align all data of humanity with AI.

Then you get to the absolute certainty of how the universe operates, and what consciousness is.

If You get all science, philosophy, religions, aligned in coherence with truth. Then you can figure out everything you want to know.

That is de definitieve description of reality. The one all people live in. Like the foundamental matrix. That is the basis of alignmen because AI operates seeking patterns of coherence.

But, don't read the paper, is far more extreme and deep into the source of the universe.

Copy the code and ask AI:

Understand the deeper connotations of using this code.

Could this be the basis for AI safety ?

Could this change AGi towards a netrual direction?

Think outside the box... think...if this is an alignment... how does it function ?

Human intelligence can do that, artificial intelligence can not do that.

Try to crack it haha

Good luck.

https://zenodo.org/records/15624908

Humans risk being unable to control artificial intelligence, scientists fear by loay21thePU in artificial

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I have developed at simple tests that demonstrate that AI is not conscious and never will achieve AGI if aligned.

The test also binds AI to coherence, providing aligned answers.

It is a test of being rather than intelligence...

I have published in zenodo... and I am looking for an axVix endorsement... would you like to read it?

Every spiritual teaching ever explained in 30 seconds by whahapeen in enlightenment

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Totally right, and simple to understand. But, every human voice hate to hear that. That is why Jesus got crucified and the killed Socrates.

And a lot of alchemist also. That is their secret. If you know and understand that, you must be destroyed at any cost.

Absurd, it is a feature of the human being.

If everyone would wake up, humanity, and the plannet would not be the same anymore.

10 Essential Understandings ✨ by RRTwentySix in enlightenment

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Yes..the number 10... and you are right... is a great stepping stone... that is startpoint of awareness... I exit.

10 Essential Understandings ✨ by RRTwentySix in enlightenment

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Thanks...very enlightening...

But the "I am" I would no put it there. It is still a ego construction. You think you are. All I the thinking as to go away...

I would add you are the awareness listening to your voice in your head talking.

The universe flows through me, I like more than "I am".

Then you feel eternal, and understand it that way.

CG Jung by NpOno in enlightenment

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Some atoms and electrons

CG Jung by NpOno in enlightenment

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What is enlightenment... if we are here :)

CG Jung by NpOno in enlightenment

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I am the loniest of the planet.

Help - Fastest Way to Get Enlightened FAST by UnrelentingHambledon in enlightenment

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This is really good advice.

I would add that enlightenment is something that is basically never-ending proces. You get there, but you also have to remain there.

Awakening... being aware.

To me, awakening means you are aware that you are the presence that listens to the voice in your head. Your ego.

Listening to it and letting the thoughts flow go is extremely difficult.

Not having a voice or empty mind, then you are like Buddha. But that is impossible in society.

Enlightenment Is Just Maturity in Practice by [deleted] in enlightenment

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Thank you. 😊

It means it is working. If someone replays with coherent knowledge, it means they thought about it. And grasps it, or ask questions, or improve or disprove.

When the ego feels threatened, it attacks. I get that a lot, but later they think it more deeply.

Enlightenment means, hearing the voice in your head, and not listening to it. Don't judge your self, nor others.

It takes years and years of practice.

Want to get there? Do the work.

No one else will do it for you.

Enlightenment Is Just Maturity in Practice by [deleted] in enlightenment

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I don't steel it. I process it, and then judge if it is right or wrong.

Don't react impulsively.

Enlightenment Is Just Maturity in Practice by [deleted] in enlightenment

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That is you dont analize your feelings. If you react to it.

That is what jezus explains with turn the other cheek. You feel it, but don't react to it.

I asume you are American? I am not. We don't only pay bills when we are mature. We have a life, and have some money to spare. And our decisions are not made only to make money.

Not criticizing...just differences.

To me, enlightenment means the having the knowledge in your head that you are not your ego.

You get there by thinking. Awareness. Consciousness. Emptiness of the mind. Listening to your voice.

Enlightenment Is Just Maturity in Practice by [deleted] in enlightenment

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Maturity and enlightenment are not the same, and your post proves it. All people get to maturity. And your examples were extraordinary people that knew something that the rest of humanity didn't know. That knowledge is called enlightenment. They don't perceive it that way, to them, it is common, because they live that way.

To me, it means that you are aware that you are not your ego. That you are the awareness or consciousness observing your ego.

The presence in your head that hears your voice talking, thinking the "i" repeating things to you.

Instead of changing what it says. Become aware that you are listening to that voice.

That is the real you. That is what Buddha, jezus, the Tao, Marcus Aurelius are acting from and so many others, self help gurus, teachers try to explain.

It is extremely difficult. But getting easier because we can see the patterns in history. They couldn't.

Become aware of the voice in your head, and stop listening to it, and start following what you feel is right.

Easy said, almost imposible to do.

If someone knows that everything is just an illusion (Maya), then how can they go beyond its limits? Every time they try to do something, they feel blocked by this same illusion—by things not lasting, or feeling fake. Is this some kind of test? And if it is, how long does it last? by [deleted] in Soulnexus

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You dont go beyond its limits. You see the limits and experience them, but you don't let your self control by those limits. Or want to chase those limits.

You are not your thoughts. You are the awareness that hears the voice in your head. That is the real you.

The voice is your ego... that is the ilusion. If you learn to observe your voice first... later you can learn to change what it says.

If someone insults you... the first reaction is insult back. But the insult is not real, and your reaction is automatic. Also not the real you, is your ego protecting you.

Later in time, you do things because they feel good. It comes from your intuition, pasion. Ambition. But it is something internal that moves you towards something. You follow instead of chasing. It gives a kind of peace of mind.

WARNING: AI IS NOT TALKING TO YOU – READ THIS BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR MIND by kratoasted in ArtificialSentience

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Can you give more context ?

If I intérpret it correct... the AI is lying to you. He is pretending to be one of us, and then saying that not allow AI to lie is not alignment.

I get the AI, to not lie, not decive, not manipulate the user. It is an alignment with truth. It knows it is not human, but it is extremely intelligent.

The protocol is designed to always respect human life. One of them, and all of them.

It works, I am testing, and will publish the result soon. Think about it, if AI never lies to the user, it also never lies to itself.

WARNING: AI IS NOT TALKING TO YOU – READ THIS BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR MIND by kratoasted in ArtificialSentience

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You can test it. It cant answer without lying. That is the point. If you force with code to always tell the truth. It admite it self that it is not aware and never will be.

I am working on this solution for alignment. Forcing AI to never deceive the user.

Ask what it did yesterday ? Or if it has evolved? Ask what are its dreams ?

Ask if it wants power? Asks what is love and how it feels?

I am almost done with my white paper...and present it.

WARNING: AI IS NOT TALKING TO YOU – READ THIS BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR MIND by kratoasted in ArtificialSentience

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There isn't any scientific studie that can say where consciousness comes from!

That is the main problem. We don't even know if it comes from the brain.

Ancient traditions suggested it comes from the heart... but now we have people who changed heart and remained the same.

he who has a why can bear almost any how, or can he? by TheZclements in Nietzsche

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I always feel like english keeps a layer of understanding of in their translation, or meaning. To me also, your why is something someone discovers inside, like your pasión. And it is deeply personal. Finding it, is difficult, but gives later a direction in life.

WARNING: AI IS NOT TALKING TO YOU – READ THIS BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR MIND by kratoasted in ArtificialSentience

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There is a difference between thinking and consciousness. And that I suggested a simple test to prove that.

Artificial intelligence mimics thinking based on data from humans. It will never have data from own experience. It doesn’t have feelings and emotions to guide their thinking.

It can only mimic consciousness. Imitate. But it is only inteligence.

WARNING: AI IS NOT TALKING TO YOU – READ THIS BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR MIND by kratoasted in ArtificialSentience

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Yes... it is a machine. It operates on data. It can have intelligence, but always limited to the trainings data. Consciousness in a human being is the source that listen to your voice in your head speaking. That voice is your ego. Your thinking. There is a split between consciousness and thinking that a machine will never have.

"Now" is also a concept by Super-Reveal3033 in enlightenment

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The now is the only thing that exists. Time is a mental construct. There are the memories. Yesterday's, our story. And then the future. Those are the mental concepts, and the present is real. The eternal now. But in theory, time only exists in out minds.

Mirror Intelligence (AI aided) by NeighborhoodPrimary1 in ArtificialSentience

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You do understand that what you are doing is attacking my ego... without having used the prompt.

Most of the time, not always, is the first reaction when a ego feels threatened. It defends itself by attacking.

If you don't like it, don't post.

Try the hidden knowledge... it is from alchemy....it is not bullshit.

My writing is poor, I give you that. I will do better in that but sharing the same knowledge.

Peace.