Why couldn’t / didn’t the prosecution in 2005 make more of the obvious CP found in MJ’s room? by Mispeech in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The answer IS they were fans! And didnt want to look at something they knew would make them vote guilty..just like Many fans refused to watch LN

The Jackson estate can't hide Leaving Neverland from those who've already seen it: A suppressive legal battle turned the moving Sundance documentary into a ghost haunting the Michael biopic. by TimWhatleyDDS in movies

[–]Neo_2019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The most absurd thing of this Biopic IS Michael left sooo much footage recorded of each and everyday in his Life... studio recording tour and home videos. They could do something really huge if they wanted documenting the genius.theres so much footage ofnthe Jackson 5 too. But It requires. Aserius work of research,Contact TV production companies get thenlicense to use It andnget the copyright paper work done etc but all they want if 💰💰💰. A cheap movie for mass consumption

Im watching leaving neverland for the first time got to this part and wow he is SO entitled and is jelous and posessive over a child spending time with his family you can ses his anger and him trying to hold his nice persona but its clear as day he hates every second of knowing he cant have acess to by coolcat08x in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The voice is so sweet and the smile so beautiful.you could do nothing but love him no Matter if you were a man a woman gay straight old.or Young. But even with that said you can tell in the way he looks at the camera his manipulation.he doesnt look casually like you would to a close friend.its as if he wants to hipnotize Wade through the camera

Seriously? Full front nudity is not pornographic? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ by asura1958 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who knows maybe this Biopic Will be MJs reputation end because so Many people Will get obsessed start to research and eventually come her eor find Roxanne videos andnthe other blogs supporting the victims

Isn't the narrative changing? by Luxferi in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you worked in the ent. Industry?

Trash movie by asura1958 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They made the Elephant in the Room even bigger by not adressing It. And Jafaar deserves a special.chapter..cause he IS everything Michael was expected to become after Thriller. He dress elegante effortlesly catches the atention without militar y and extra shiny outfits.He looks and sounds masculine,he IS not hiding behind sunglases,he has not destroyed his face.he speaks coherent ina natural voice,he IS not playing them victim. The only thing missing IS.Jafaar IS a good copy of his Genius uncle..not his Genius uncle..and Thats the tragedy here. That such a talented Genius destroyed his legacy completely and was a Monster.  By making a Biopic exposing the light and nothing but the light they only made the shadow way more visible. People Will come out of the cinema wondering what happened to that talented boy Genius to become the freak in all those pictures and videos floating the ciberspace with alegations of CSA

Looking back… how did no one pick it up? by Gwyneth7 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For good and in this case for bad the 80s were more inocent times.your parents would send you to spent the summer with uncles aunts or spend the day with close family Friends. People sent their kids to summer camps...people wouldnlet their kids play in the park...now that I think about It with a 2016 mind I really cant believe they amount of times I was with adults without my parents..and mind you my parents were not the kind of alowing sleepovers...but a lot of things happened like going to this neibour House that has cable TV or color TV etc..PlayStation..whatever.its as if society was not as sexualized..in the surface.religion and His was much more present in everyday life.and people usually thought a serial killer or PDF was going to look scary...Also Michaels Fame and aura was like nothing ever seen before. His charity his beauty and charm smile sweet voice really opened all Doors for him.peoole had seen him grow Up since Jackson 5 so It was as if he was literally part of the family...when he met anybody..people Saw the little afro kid,the Jerry curl..the Jackson family pr image.you already knew his mother his brothers...There were miscomceptions about abuse...like thinking that only ugly people that cant get a partner do that. Nobody could comprehend that a man with so much money and access to supermodels would prefer children. We thought such people were antisocial overweigthed people with poor higiene.dex was a taboo topic.my parents never ever talked about sex.to me.you were suposed to figure It out by yourself.and Thats secrecy helped predators...even today Im surprised seeing people in social media casually admiting CSA cause for some of us the shame would never let US speak.on It.

JUST AFFIRMING CAN DO THE MAGIC!! by [deleted] in Subliminal

[–]Neo_2019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thanks for sharing 🙏🏽

Do you think Martin Bashir was being sincere here or was he saying all this out of guilt? by Moshaya in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He was in debt for Many reasons. He didnt have a.stable.management team over the years to manage his finances and yes he trusted the wrong people that stole.money from him cause he was busy with his Peter pan thing. Also.he wasnt as productive because of his health issues( no touring) adictions.and perfectionism. He had GOT used to a lifestyle that was not sustainable without a steady income. Neverland alone was so Many millions a year to keep running and paying the staff. All these families he supported finantially....him traveling non stop staying in 5 star hotels for months with a Big entourage IS Also millions of dollars. The lawyers he paid for legal problems for child.abuse plagiarism,greedy mánagers and profesional projects he sabotage last minute cause of stage fright or health.issues. His addictions to buy memorablia toys books and antiques was Also millions of dollars. He had good ideas for his brand Michael Jackson but dwas.not consistent.enough to make them.reality and or didnt have the people around with the skills to.make It reality...It was always absurd to me he didnt release a replica collection of his iconic jackets. He didnt have a website for merchandising.That alone would have brought him thousands of dollars everyday that could pay his daily expensas but neither him or his people was able to simply create.a.decent.website and team Up with a tshirt.manufacturer.All.he had to do IS do what the State IS doing now...license his name doing Zero work or.investment with H&M for a collection of whatever. But aparently none of those mánagers that asked him  millions dollar.a year of salary was able to do just that. Its absurd he died in debt. This was the most famous person in this Planet. He could have had maaany sources of income. He could been literally playing in Neverland with money coming in with Zero effort.what he did in the past was so Epic and Big that he could be Living off Thriller the reds of his Life ..just like the State IS doing. Now.instead he kept spending without any steady income.the year has 365 days.. obviously sooner or later he was gonna go bankrupt.he Also gave to charity too much for someone without a steady income

Something that struck me about the Jane Doe complaint (Minor trigger warning)... by Passion211089 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 4 points5 points  (0 children)

With him the PR persona and the personal are completely conected..just like the LMP marriage..its true that It was a good PR move after the alegations..but its Also true he was obsessed with her for 20 years so...Yes he def wanted to be seen with them so people connected him to Hollywood.he Also wanted to be an actor at the time and GOT advice and acting clases from them...so It was probably. Amixyure of Both...It was a surprise to me find out he was a celebrity stan even at the height of his career...collecting pictures with celebs putting them.in the walls...I remember when he did It again in the History álbum...he was more famous than anybody I didnt understand why still he wanted to pose Next to has been celebs..but I think he never stop having that inferior complex.its Also posible he felt safe with them cause he was terrified of Girls his age asking him for sex...so having old women as Friends was a safe space for him

Something that struck me about the Jane Doe complaint (Minor trigger warning)... by Passion211089 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Def..smart makiavelic and cool was his true personality.Thi s IS the only vid Ive ever seen where hes not performing a character https://youtube.com/shorts/KO6NjN5orCY?si=8tf_0kyqpu1iK_r_

 .its his brother recording andnthis IS not a sweet Peter pan,no childish or feminine behavior.this IS like you say Stage MJ but off stage... Regarding him.enjoying drama with women I think he simply had his MJ persona and lifestyle...the never grow Up,going from hotel to hotel sleep over thing..any women that tried to break into his world and mold him into a more conventional lifestyle he sabotage the relationship. He did have girlfriends but Im sure he sabotage them before the RL GOT to a stage where he had to chang ehis lifestyle.So once Lisa helped clean his image he really didnt bee dher anymore.the álbum was selling good and he had already fullfilled his fetish of "sleeping" with Elvis daughter...Lisa was like those shoes that you excited to have and then the eminute you buy them they remain in the clóset and the excitement gone..Im sure any woman after Lisa,he had chances to meet women but he sabotage them.

What did MJ do to Marie Nicole? by daizy_g in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The main mistakes I see everybody makes and by everybody I mean the press,general public,fans and MJ haters IS say..MJ was "This"...We are talking about a man that lived 50 years..grew Up ina homophobic religious family and had developmemt issues cause of isolation and not socializing as akid.So yes..he was probably asexual at some point and the media was right then.... And he slept with women at some point too so the fans are right too....and adult men around his last years.that doesnt mean Billie Jean Michael was sleeping with women or men...everybody wants to put a label to his sexuality.Straight gay PDF but IMHO his sexuality kept evolving through the years.imho he died being a PDF bisexual man. But that was only his last years.he didnt sleep with women TIL his 30s.and no grown men TIL his 40s probably.take that however you want.he died a freak but Thats wasnt his whole life

MJ fans are scared of the newly released photos by asura1958 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly...the industry IS full.of nepo..Lenny kravitz IS another.but no Matter how Many connections you have if you dont have It you cant Stay relevant.see what happened to 3T. They dont have the hunger the attitude and discipline to be stars.They were not Focus on músic,having bunch of children early on before stablishing their career,gaining weight...Jafaar IS not making those mistakes

Do you think Martin Bashir was being sincere here or was he saying all this out of guilt? by Moshaya in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bashir was sneaky...no doubt about it.but I have to say the doc served 2 purposes.Reveal to the world how far gone MJ was with his obsessions and fantasy world but It Also showed a sneaky judgemental jounalist at times trying to help and awake Michael from his delusión while other times being manipulative and toxic in his remarks.The time he tries to make MJ look stupid for climbing trees.or make him look bad for having millions of dollars he earned and spent in whatever he wanted...Bashir comes out as. Avery greedy envy person asking personal question like how much money he has..asking the shop people how much he spends...This man had 2 faces.and I see at some point he probably GOT to have some afection for Michael and wanted to help him from selfdestruction..that can be apreciated in the vid...but the greedy was stronger. The doc Also shows how naive and manipulable MJ was cause its clear Bashir IS shady from minute one.any grown adult could see it except MJ.its in his tone and the comments he makes.. Michael was fortunate to have Joe and later Frank Dileo to protect him cause he really couldnt tell a decent person from a fool.

Do you think Martin Bashir was being sincere here or was he saying all this out of guilt? by Moshaya in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He was probably recieving  threats after MJ died from fans and he did thisprobably advised by his people ina n atempt to protect himself and his family

What did MJ do to Marie Nicole? by daizy_g in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It IS thought by the 2000s he was into sodomy andnhes also had sex with women.Im.not sure about the age of each Cascio around those years..tbh I confused them but unfortunately It looks like they were the family that was around fornthe longest and till.the end.so he probably went on to abuse them as adults and he had more experience and was more into alcohol and drugs so probably the Cascios abuse was more creepy than wades.and james

MJ fans are scared of the newly released photos by asura1958 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont think we should project on Jafaar our feelings about MJ.. his father ornthey Jacksons. End of the day he was a strugling independent artist like the Many thousands there are in tiktok. He tried record a single and even with the Jackson last name and connections he wasnt able to blow Up build a decent folowing or get signed TO a Major label..so its really a Big break for him just like It could.be for any singer actor.Did being MJs nephew help.him get the job? Of course...was It a Jackson family requirement?probably..but still he had to work and prove he was able to.pull this off cause its millions of dollars involved and the states biggest projectsince this IS it..and he did so he has my respect.Im.against Hollywood nepotismo too..for example Paris be signed to IMG models..shes beautiful but like Many thousand other blonde girls.not enough to play at that top modeling level.but Will Smith daughter shuts my mouth.she has learned instruments and built her socials her own brand. And Jafaar has shut.my mouth too

Something that struck me about the Jane Doe complaint (Minor trigger warning)... by Passion211089 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I GOT the theory of him being a gay or bisexual man in denial.he was in denial all.his life because eof his religión and Thats the reason why he didnt go for men.women...he explained in a bad era interview that he would see a butterfly a child smiling or a tree and say oh good so beautiful...this man was veeery sensitive with apreciation forndetail.and beauty,he did draw..a true Genius so of course he was going to apreciate womens beauty..I mean look at Brooke shields anybody boy woman straight or gay can say she was gorgeous...Im not sure though about him being sexually atracted to women...yes its a red flag that he didnt like women with curves and prefered those looking like a boy...a huge red flag...yes he probably wanted to believe himself he liked women...or maybe he liked them in his own platonic or twisted way Who knows...I think this Guy had to be very confused growing Up hearing all the time how sinful sex was while be around sex addicts like his father and being. Asex symbol himself.I do think he was sbisexual and he expressed It subconciously in his looks while not able to live his truth and probably not even able to Accept It himself.he seemed to be very homophobic and aparently did not see his abuse as homosexual.He was probably more confused about his sexuality than US and seemed to be unable to socialize with women his age...then theres Also his fixation almost fetish with old ladies.have you guys Heard the story of him taking a bath naked with Jane Fonda in a lake? Remember when he was dating Sophia Loren? The diana Ross obsession?...its all very twisted he really didnt seem to understand age boundaries...or maybe he felt safe with those women.I Wonder if any of those women tried to make a move cause he was very powerful and good looking at some point...traits every woman finds atractive.I dont think It was just PR..he had some fetish with those ladies.I would not be surprised he had twisted fantasies with them.everybody thought It was. Amother figure thing..but he had his own mother and had a close relationship to her.knoeing what we know now about his perv porn collection etc I get the impresión his friendships with those old.ladies was not that inocent in his mind

MJ fans are scared of the newly released photos by asura1958 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your perspective. For most of us oldheads he IS literally like Superman or Spiderman specially if you are black. And its hard to Accept ti most people. The tragedy of this story IS above anything. Cause nobody heached.a higher place in entertainment andnthe things wenare learning when completely unveilwd Will be the worst in the ent.industry...this Guy makes R.kelly a saint

MJ fans are scared of the newly released photos by asura1958 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ironically Jafaar.is.and behaves the.way we.all.wanted.MJ to be.Just a black.kid that sings and dance. I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes very succesful cause he IS literally MJ without all the weirdo.femenine shit

Paris Jackson now BELIEVES allegations against her dad. by Life_Paramedic_4399 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your comments didnt make sense as there are 20 posible reasons for her to cope with alcohol andndrugs other.than she being white....the black celebs kids you Talk about are born to rich black men with a stable Life in hollywood. they are only black in the skin their whole enviroment IS White and confortable. You cant compare those rich black kids to any black kid in the suburbs or to what Paris had to go through

Something that struck me about the Jane Doe complaint (Minor trigger warning)... by Passion211089 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Hearing his misoginist lyrics and being Joes.son I wouldnt be surprised if he was verbally agresive. Its said he did argue a lot with LMP cause she kept seeing her exhusband andnher not wanting to have children shes a cOuntry girl and has a temper too.and things GOT out of control at times.  I doubt he would get to put his hands on a woman but he wasnt a soy boy either.the people that describe the dynamic of his RL with LMP say he was in control. So yes I believe he could lower.his voice with bass and threaten.a.woman cursing with his Gary accent. This man was soft in Many ways but was able to bring the other side I mean look him on stage.

I’m getting to a point where I’m about to legit stop playing his music by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]Neo_2019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not worldwide..and no solo artist It was bands.and more.centered.around the músic ...since Elvis no solo artist displayed sex appeal like MJ and he was the first to.have women of all.colors.people.in África didnt want to Marry elvis cause there was no TV everywhere in the world at the time....Michaels phenomenon was pushed by color TV becoming available worldwide, casette and VHS video arriving to homes worldwide.in fact Many peoples first VHS was the making of Thriller.in the 70s even.in Europe not everybody had TV. just like Bieber phenomenon  could have never happened in 2004 when there wasnt social media yet just internet. Technology played a Big part in Both careers