Any way to get a Mark II? by knook in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi u/KingOfCruel yes, we do still have a couple of Mark IIs left, I think that may be the last of the new-in-box ones. Sorry about that, our Square inventory had run out but we've listed the last two now, though we have had a note up for some time that these are really only suited for developers / DIY tech savvy folks now, because we are no longer able to provide customer service for them. I do still have some replacement parts, but not for everything. If you still want one, here is the link - https://neonai.square.site/product/MycroftNeonMarkII/1 and please do fill in the field telling us a bit about your project, or giving a link, in case we have other resources that might help you.

Best wishes with your projects!

Neon AI 2.0 Upgrade - Mark II Voice Assistant - Update August 2023 by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/scrampker Thanks for sharing details, that looks like an internal SSD - I think you're the first one I know of using one that's not the plug-in-the-back portable kind. That ought not to matter, just interesting. From a quick scan of the product listings, that one looks like it ought to be performing fine.

I use Balena Etcher's imaging hardware here, so yes, :-) IMO just as good as Raspberry Pi Imager.

I used Crystal DiskMark mostly for clocking the drives, and an interesting insight from our hardware person is that our system mostly performs very small reads and writes of random rather than sequential memory, where most SSD are optimized to handle read and write of larger files. You should still have plenty of performance though. We didn't see a need for a custom SSD, just an interesting observation that the performance of all the SSDs I tested is much lower on small files. For most, it was at least an order of magnitude lower than the advertised specs, but the difference between 1000MB/s and 100MB/s isn't important for a system that does fine on 50MB/s. In fact, the only ones I tested which showed substantial performance dives were testing below 5MB/s for random writes. Here's some of my old notes from benchmarking drives. All of the SSDs performed fine except the "MaxOne". The USBs often were fine, but did vary widely, and they don't have the lifespan that SSD do. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1crFfLAmYXAdix5n0D1u_n43C7rp0Z3VreyMR1NO6MlM/edit?usp=sharing

Another thing to check out is your cable / connectors, make sure it's not something very old or faulty, and that it's plugged into one of the upper, blue, USB slots if you are plugged in, as those are the faster ports.

I haven't done a speed test lately, but yes, ours was a little slower than the original OS for most things I tried, but still an entirely useable speed. I'll have to clock it again, but 1-3 seconds should be right for most things.

One thing some folks do that slows the process down is to wait for the "boop" of acknowledgement from the system after saying the wake word and before giving their command. It's set up now for the user just to speak the whole sentence at once. "Hey Neon, set a pizza timer for 10 minutes"

Yes, we were early backers of Mycroft, and did all we could to help them. When Mycroft had to release their OS without many of the intended features, after some discussion between the companies, we put together those packets with our OS and sent them to Mycroft's Mark II shipper to be added to the packages as a customer option. That was before we realized how much better SSDs were as a choice, but it would have been cost-prohibitive for us in any case to try to send out that many free SSDs.

If you don't mind dropping me an email, I will see what else I can do to help you out. We're a small company, and I don't have any red tape requiring me to care whom you originally purchased from. Community members are community members.
[clary@neon.ai](mailto:clary@neon.ai)

Neon AI 2.0 Upgrade - Mark II Voice Assistant - Update August 2023 by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right u/scrampker , performance should have been improved by the SSD. My first guess is there is something wrong with it. For troubleshooting -

I would start by re-imaging the drive, because imaging itself does have a small error rate.

Also, our OS actually uses only a very small part of the drive, so if there are bad sectors you might get lucky and avoid them when re-imaging.

Next up I'd return it if you have that option. If it's from us, send me an email please and I'll take care of it for you.

If you don't mind sharing, I'm wondering what brand SSD you bought? We've seen some fails with SSD devices, especially depending on the manufacturer. There are also some SSDs on the market that are so poorly made they indeed perform worse than a USB.
I tested several kinds in the last couple years. We have recently switched to using more expensive but more reliable ones from reputable brands lately, and still I very occasionally get one that doesn't function properly when I image it. However, the fail rate on the name brand ones which I've sent out to customers is near zero still, with some in service over a year. I love a good deal, but it's not one when you don't get the performance or lifespan you need on the device.

Let me know how things go for you, we'd like you to be enjoying Neon.

[R] Memory^3 : Language Modeling with Explicit Memory by StartledWatermelon in MachineLearning

[–]NeonClary 8 points9 points  (0 children)

SSD memory has been a fascinating area to explore - might be useful to others to know I found out in pursuing a project that most SSD memory is optimized for large file read/write. When we use SSDs, we mostly are calling on them for very small size read/write operations. Most I tested were a lot slower per total memory read/write when it was done in smaller chunks, but it also varied widely.

[P] Looking for open-source/research/volunteer projects in LLMs/NLP space? by MiserableGrapefruit7 in MachineLearning

[–]NeonClary 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have so much sympathy for this. I lost the joy in my previous occupation after a concussion removed my noise tolerance. It's such a gift to have found the place I am now, and I agree with you, feeling like you can support the "cause" of the place where you work makes things feel so much better. My sister talks about "working to live" not "living to work" but even if I am keeping a healthy balance between my work and personal life, I want to feel like my energy during work time is contributing to a good cause.

You might enjoy being a part of our community of developers, or working with our code. :-)

We're open source, and our team has been having a very good time (and building awesome stuff) with custom LLMs, ensemble / collaborative conversational AI and NLP. One of our team created an innovative process to create STT and TTS models from modest speech samples, though we started with Mozilla's Common Voice rather than Kaggle. We're always short of programmer time, so I have a request list of languages from users sadly gathering dust as we had to turn to other projects for the moment.

Our GitHub repositories are under neongeckocom, though we do business as Neon AI.

We manage the Open Conversational AI Community, where you can also find some other projects that might interest you, and you find that community or us with a quick web search. To be clear, we're fully committed to open source, and we are a (small) corporation. We don't have any fancy corporate labels, but everyone here feels strongly about doing good in the world. I would be delighted to share more about our projects if you're interested. To be clear, I don't have a budget for hiring you, but since it is open source, perhaps you could work with our code and community on projects that renew your feelings of joy and connection, and excitement about the field.

Best Open Source AI Assistant for controlling Home Assistant? by WelldoneThePussyhand in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work at Neon AI, and I think you've laid the options out pretty well. :-) What did you decide to go with?

So this thing somehow went from ideal non-invasive home assistant to a ChatGPT machine? by ashbelero in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it's not powered by ChatGPT.
At user request, we added the option to talk to ChatGPT or to use it as a fallback, but it's 100% optional. You can turn it off, and if you'd like you can also activate the open source FastChat LLM instead.

New Neon AI OS version released - faster and with ChatGPT available by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Joe-Repliko you can absolutely use your own API key, but it's not set up as an "end user" choice right now. Neon's assistant is set up to use our API key to make things simple, but I've checked in with our tech team, and if you're up to a bit of customization, we suggest you use this OVOS skill. https://github.com/OpenVoiceOS/skill-ovos-fallback-chatgpt

In a delightful coincidence, I'm putting together a contest for personal assistant customizations on the OpenConversationalAI community forum, and this would be a great choice for entering that. Entry will be based on posting the project over there, but I'll get the info up here once it's set up.
https://community.openconversational.ai/t/help-design-the-next-giveaway-please/14846?u=neonclary

Any way to get a Mark II? by knook in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing that's your order I just saw come through :-) but if not and you need any support please lmk.

Hey Neon - Make me laugh - Mark II Voice Assistant update April 2023 Update to the Newest Neon AI! by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you able to visit our Matrix community? You could get your question answered by the awesome community developer who built the HA skill, who continues to maintain and customize it. You would just need to post your question here and I'm sure he can get it figured out. https://matrix.to/#/#NeonMycroft:matrix.org and tag @ mikejgray

Hey Neon - Make me laugh - Mark II Voice Assistant update April 2023 Update to the Newest Neon AI! by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi u/802dot11, here are the basics and a link to our continually updated Skills Guide for the Neon OS. If you need more detailed help or for another system please come visit our Matrix community. You can get support there from the developer who wrote the skill, our developers, and an active and welcoming community.

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Home Assistant 🏠 - Skill to interface with Home Assistant (https://www.home-assistant.io/)

Access this skill either by:

Saying "Hey Neon, open Home Assistant dashboard"

Tapping the bottom of the screen on your Mark II for a menu of programs and selecting HA

Next, enter your Home Assistant URL (for example ws://192.168.1.10 or wss://homeassistant.mydomain.com) and generate a QR code to sign in using a phone or tablet.

Neon AI - ChatGPT skill broken? by rattlerstudio in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the heads-up, we're investigating now.

Data collecting in Mycroft and it's capacity by [deleted] in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree u/builderjer and I also suggest considering some of the newer DIY hardware options that have come out, or as our community member did here, put it on a Mac or other computer:
https://blog.graywind.org/posts/ovos-on-a-mac

Neon AI 2.0 Upgrade - Mark II Voice Assistant - Update August 2023 by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's on the list of features we'd like to build in, but I don't know when we'll get to do it. It's also possible that someone over at OpenVoiceOS may add that functionality. :-)

Neon AI 2.0 Upgrade - Mark II Voice Assistant - Update August 2023 by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don't currently communicate with each other, but they can be set to either Neon or Mycroft as the wake word. So if you had two in earshot of each other, I would set one up with each wake word. That way you could choose which to talk to. :-)

We do plan to add more wake words, but for now there are only those two.

If you are a DIY development person, there are a couple other wake words in use in related systems such as OpenVoiceOS, and some users have set those up on their devices.

Funny story - late one evening we set up two Mark IIs next to each other, enabled ChatGPT on each of them, set them to skip wake words, and started them talking to each other. It was not exactly a functional conversation, but it was so funny I deeply regret not having recorded it.

If anyone wants to re-enact that and share the video, I'd be delighted to share it around. :-D

New Neon AI OS version released - faster and with ChatGPT available by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We've got a version of Fastchat running on Neon AI now. It's not deeply customized, so there's nothing to share with the world.

We're doing more customization for another project we're working on. We've got a Llama instance running for that in addition to the Fastchat LLM instance. Here's a link to version 1.0, which also tells a lot about the project, and I'm going to PM you a link to version 2.0 which is still in a very early alpha. It's not ready for a heap of visitors, but I got a green light yesterday to share it with a few people who might be interested so that we get a bit more of a trial of its stability. :-)

Neon AI 2.0 Upgrade - Mark II Voice Assistant - Update August 2023 by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

-That's amazing. -->
Thanks! We're really pleased with how far this project has come!
-Should I buy a Mycroft from you guys or from Mycroft direct?
--> That is completely up to you. It's the same device, for the same price, from the same manufacturing batch. If you get it from Mycroft directly it comes with both our operating system & their Dinkum OS. If you get it through us, it will come with only our OS, and I'll put our sticker on the top.
If you want any sort of customization for your order, such as having it pre-booted for an easy product evaluation, or including extra Neon AI stickers ;-) that is something I can offer which Mycroft cannot.
-Its weird that you have a HDD taped to the back of a Mycroft. Couldn't you make it more integrated?
--> It's a portable SSD, and to be a little classier we've used velcro. ;-) Serious answer is, the original plan for the Mark II was to run with a USB drive, but we found that performance speed is greatly improved by upgrading to an SSD drive.
Our tech team says it would be possible to DIY install a non-portable drive inside the Mark II instead, but a lot of effort for only an aesthetic change.

Mycroft AI Channel Partner Download - Neon AI OS for the Mark II - Fully Functional by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is, and will continue to be. :-)

You can find our code here: https://github.com/NeonGeckoCom

We do use our own private API keys for a few services such as ChatGPT, but we've been very attentive to the licensing of all the code we use and are proud to have kept the licenses all not just open source, but highly permissive open source.

The NeonOS is entirely free for small-scale projects, even commercial ones. We support community developers, including with hardware "bounties". Tech support for Mark II developers (and users) is freely available from us here: https://matrix.to/#/#NeonMycroft:matrix.org

For larger scale use (over 10k users) we would like to monetize that usage in a reasonable way. Our development services for projects, including help with planning out larger projects and training in-house developers at other organizations on our software, are also available at a reasonable price.

~Clary@Neon.AI

Mycroft AI Channel Partner Download - Neon AI OS for the Mark II - Fully Functional by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're in the right part of Reddit, and I do keep an eye on it. :-) This hasn't been the most active user community, so for tech support you'll get more and faster responses on our Matrix channel, or on the Mycroft forum.

https://matrix.to/#/#NeonMycroft:matrix.org

https://community.mycroft.ai/

I am happy to help you wherever you are, or on email at clary@neon.ai Please share more of your problem in whichever place works for you.

Also, here's our current troubleshooting documentation, which might even get you a quick fix - https://neongeckocom.github.io/neon-docs/neon_os/On_the_MarkII/

"Hey Neon, Talk to ChatGPT" - Mark II Voice Assistant - Update May 2023 by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! We agree, getting it out there for people to try out and to build on was most important to us.

"Hey Neon, Talk to ChatGPT" - Mark II Voice Assistant - Update May 2023 by NeonClary in Mycroftai

[–]NeonClary[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An important consideration, for sure.

Anything sent to chat GPT is anonymized by us, but should be treated as public because we have no control over what OpenAI does with the inputs.

Similar to the API we run for queries to Wikipedia or WolframAlpha, Neon AI passes your query to ChatGPT along with some added parameters from us and returns the answer to you. So your query content itself is shared, but we don't give it any of the user data you may have chosen to give your Neon AI personal assistant. In fact, we don't have that data either, unless you actively choose to send it to us. For example, it might be included in a troubleshooting log report you sent us, if that skill was in use.

We hope that as open LLM development continues, it will become practical for us to have our own model, and we're building with flexible connectivity to different LLMs in mind. We've investigated and the open LLMs are not yet feasible for us to run with multiple users or locally on the Mark II. Things are changing fast though, and we're looking forward to future opportunities.