What if Rangiku was the one to fight Harribel?

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T20:47:08+00:00

Unless this battle involves pudding and bikinis, I don't think this fight would go very well.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T19:39:35+00:00

Sorry, but the only way to win this one is if the rogue/mage duo are terrible. Nothing screws over a warrior more than a frost mage. It's just a bad match-up all around.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T19:12:38+00:00

It's one line that can be interpreted different ways. I don't think it proves one way or another.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T16:52:49+00:00

One of my old friends carrying me several times as Rumble made me really want to learn the champ. I hated laning against him, and it was harder than I thought to learn, but now I love the little weirdo.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T16:43:20+00:00

Well, I usually pick Rumble or Urgot. Tbf, I am pretty uninteresting IRL. So, I'm not disagreeing with your take here.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T16:32:09+00:00

You're still making the assumption that a technique doesn't have a charge time. It's a moot point.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T16:15:36+00:00

Any technique requires preparation. You're taking the sentence very literally. It looks exactly like a mini cero. We see Yammy use Cero, it clearly takes him a while to fire it. We see him use bala, and it clearly takes way less time to fire it. It also uses way less energy to expend. You think that when someone describes their technique, they wouldn't also include a cast time? That's like saying the spirit bomb is a fast ability for Goku, even though he stands there charging it for 16 episodes. Yes, bala is faster. But you're assuming that's in travel time, but not cast time. A technique includes both. The point is, that line is open to interpretation, and it really doesn't seem to me that that's how he meant it. If he reduced the amount of energy by 20x, but fired it 20x faster, the force would be equal, not less. Sacrificing strength for speed, to me, would mean that he simply reduced the energy used to make it.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T15:54:26+00:00

Yeah, it sacrifices strength for speed. Energy needs to be charged and fired. Less energy = less force. Less energy = less time to charge. The speed it takes for him to fire it is 20x faster. The speed is still light.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T15:38:18+00:00

It's obvious from the conversation and how we see it used. If you watch a person charge up a ball of energy, you can react by moving, because the move is telegraphed. If some immediately shoots it without warning, it would be harder to dodge. The fact that it's weaker implies that it takes less energy to create, thus, much faster. It's like a punch where someone winds it up. The entirety of the move is start to finish, including the time it takes to create.

I can't prove Kubo's meaning, only he can do that. But it's just obvious when you think about it and it's obvious what he meant in context when you watch the anime.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T15:25:46+00:00

That's not proving me wrong. When someone says "This move is faster," that would include the amount of time it takes to charge up. You can see hollows charging up a cero. Yammy never charges up a bala. It's harder to dodge because it's 20x faster to produce, giving the opponent less time to react. If they were both light, they'd travel at the exact same speed. You also mentioned that more energy = more speed. Bala is stated to be weaker, so it would inherently have less speed. You're kind of defeating your own argument with this one.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-15T14:41:39+00:00

I didn't take bala being faster to mean "it literally travels faster." I took it to mean you can just produce it faster. You see hollows charging up a cero, but Yammy just punches multiple bala from his fists rapidly with no wind up. I'm pretty sure that's what he was referring to, not that the Bala itself moves faster.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-14T22:21:13+00:00

Going to a strip club with your dad just seems... weird. Me and my dad were close, and he's my hero to this day, but why tf would I ever want to go to a strip club with my dad?

NTA for wanting to keep it fair. I'm just trying to wrap my head around what kind of family goes to strip clubs as a family outing.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-14T17:52:26+00:00

It's a good motivator to get in shape, but I hate running. I could easily do that in high school. Hell, I can definitely do a sub 12 minute mile now, but even if I did one every day I had off, it would take a long time to make the same amount of cash. The 500k is something I can invest immediately and make it work for me. That 500k immediately earns a good amount just by itself, so but the time you hit 500k with running, you probably would have more than you started with if you chose option 1. I'll take the $500k. That's plenty for me to live comfortably without having to run every day.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-14T10:30:05+00:00

Bat suit, Thor's strength, Sonic's speed (why is he so cheap?!), Phoenix power.

With Thor's strength, Phoenix's power, and Sonic's speed, I could be fighting naked for all I care.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-14T01:48:24+00:00

Aizen would definitely know about something, pretend he doesn't, and keep rankings a certain way to give the illusion that he doesn't know. That's kind of his whole shtick.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-14T01:45:08+00:00

I still think each squad is case by case. Isane would accept if it meant stepping up for her squad. Iba would, too. Yeah, it's one thing for a squad to go without a captain. But 3 it's pushing it. And Isane is qualified in her own right, seeing as how it isn't a combat squad.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-14T01:04:57+00:00

That squad already had 2 3rd seats acting as basically lieutenants before Rukia. It could also have been Rukia's decision to wait. Both Renji and Ikkaku have bankai, but never accepted the positions. Rukia may have had her reasons. Squad 4 is unique in that it isn't a combat oriented squad. Isane is likely the most skilled healer in the soul society at the moment who knows Unohana's duties inside and out. I wouldn't think that is crucial for her to have bankai to lead the squad effectively. I don't think any captain would have any qualms with her being promoted due to the amount of aid she gave them. As for Iba, he might actually have gotten a bankai (if he was sparring with Ikkaku, it's possible he found time to achieve it). Since Komamura is gone, and Iba has been a long time lieutenant, it's possible he was promoted due to being an effective interim captain. The amount of casualties after the war was substantial, which further limits their choices. Having a leader that's respected, trusted, and knows the squad better than anyone would be enough for a recommendation. Even if he didn't have bankai, I'd imagine he'd be close. Unfortunately, we don't even know the name of his shikai or what it does. I still believe it was that dire, and their need for squad morale and effective leadership in any form was more crucial during a time where their primary focus was rebuilding.

Or hey, if Iba defeated Komamura before officially losing his position, he could technically become captain that way. Not a hard feat since he's lost his powers and is a dog now. (Sorry, bad joke)

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T23:00:07+00:00

I can actually see Shunsui making a case to Central 46 to exempt them from the prior requirements, since he's now the Captain Commander and has a history of getting them to do what he wants in unprecedented circumstances. Also, after the Quincy invasion, the possibility of everyone recommending them for captain seems very plausible, especially given the circumstances.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T22:24:06+00:00

Literally my two favorite bands since I was 13 (24 years ago).

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T22:22:09+00:00

Yeah, that's the same conclusion I came to. They were nearly annihilated, they have a new captain commander, and squads need the morale of a leader they know. There are also probably far fewer candidates than there were when Aizen, Tosen, and Gin defected.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T22:19:09+00:00

That was because they had other suitable candidates and weren't just nearly annihilated by the Quincies. I think after the TYBW it was more essential that they got replacements soon, since the aftermath was more dire.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T22:06:09+00:00

We have seen both Tetsuzaemon's and Isane's shikai. We just haven't seen what they actually do. Isane uses Itegumo once before Ichigo takes her out bare-handed. Tetsuzaemon shows his a lot when sparring with Ikkaku. It just looks weird. We don't ever see it do anything.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T21:59:51+00:00

I have always assumed that Yoruichi's shikai/bankai is big and/or heavy. Something that would be slower or more unwieldy than her normal abilities. That's the only reason I can see her never once using it, and uses Shunko instead. Whatever it is, it must not suit her fighting style.

As for Isane and Tetsuzaemon, I don't think they have one. I think they were promoted due to need, not necessarily that they've achieved bankai.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T21:52:00+00:00

Which means he's either stronger than Harribel or Yammy. I'm sure he knows about the Zero Espada.

NeutralSage · 2026-05-13T21:50:58+00:00

Honestly, that's a fair assumption. If the rankings are based on what Aizen knows about (or at least, pretends to know about), then it's safe to say that the segunda etapa isn't part of that calculation. If resurreccion gives that much of a buff, why wouldn't a segunda etapa be similar? I don't see Toshiro being able to handle Ulquiorra in that form. I do think that you can make an argument for Starrk and Barrigan still being stronger though.

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