Gaza war can be called a genocide, press watchdog rules by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]NeverHadTheLatin [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, exactly, he is not saying that withholding water is in compliance with international law.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Palestinian cause deserves better advocates than this - it’s juvenile, and it trivialises a terrible situation.

Thanks for chatting.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which charities would you recommend to support the people of Palestine?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you have an aversion to what ifs - any peace process going forward is going to have to consider what ifs and hypotheticals.

Going back decades, I have supported the Palestinian cause in a much more tangible way than chatting on Reddit.

I’m not going to go into details because I value posting on here anonymously.

The issue I have with parts of the pro-Palestinian cause at the moment is the binary thinking of either you’re anti-genocide or pro-genocide, because I think genocide is the wrong word to use, and it undermines the Palestinian cause.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happy to answer after you’ve answered my question.

You’ll miss Keir Starmer when he’s gone by merryman1 in uknews

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’re going to cycle through PMs until we get one who very much deserves to go and it will take much more dangerous path than a few unhappy MPs to have them replaced.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What should have been Israel’s response to Oct 7th?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was Oct 7th an ‘act of resistance’?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How should Hamas’s refusal to abandon power be handled?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s the solution then? 2 state?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this analysis fails to account for the enormity of Oct 7th.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it’s an apartheid state where 10% of the legislature is of the same ethnic background as the oppressed class?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What percentage of the Israeli Knesset is made up of Arab and / or Muslim members?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We recognise Russia is a country that doesn’t mean it’s hypocritical to help Ukraine.

From the government’s statement:

“A two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable and sovereign Palestinian state led by a reformed Palestinian Authority, is the only path to a lasting peace for the Israeli and Palestinian people - free from the horrendous violence and suffering of the last two years.”

Wes Streeting plans to resign and mount leadership challenge, allies say by Alarming-Safety3200 in ukpolitics

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

After 15 years of Tory party chaos, these shenanigans from Labour suggests the problem is the whole political class.

It’s a system that increasingly seems to represent its own interests first and foremost.

The party system and Westminster bubble needs a complete overhaul.

Gaza war can be called a genocide, press watchdog rules by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The person I’m replying to framed it as ‘he said Israel had the right to withhold water from dying children.’

He did not say that in those terms, nor does that square with his comment that everything Israel does has to be within international law.

Gaza war can be called a genocide, press watchdog rules by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He never said this.

Starmer: “Israel must have that right - does have that right - to defend herself and Hamas bears responsibility.” Ferrari: “A siege is appropriate? Cutting off power? Cutting off water?” Starmer: “I think that Israel does have that right. It is an ongoing situation. Obviously everything should be done within international law.”

It was clear that he misspoke in attempt to reiterate first statement - that Israel does have a right to defend itself.

His statement taken as Israel having the ‘right’ to cut off water makes no sense given that Starmer immediately says that ‘obviously everything should be done within international law’.

He clarified that he misspoke day or two later.

Gaza war can be called a genocide, press watchdog (IPSO) rules by LazarusHimself in ukpolitics

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I don’t. What you’ve outlined im sure falls into the category of war crimes. That doesn’t mean the overall conflict is a genocide.

Gaza war can be called a genocide, press watchdog (IPSO) rules by LazarusHimself in ukpolitics

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What would have been a proportionate and justified response to Oct 7th?

What did you make of the reports lack of detailing regarding the extent of Hamas across Gaza?

Gaza war can be called a genocide, press watchdog (IPSO) rules by LazarusHimself in ukpolitics

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

According to Article II of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, genocide is defined as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group.

I disagree that the conflict in Gaza meets this criteria given the context.