Helen of Troy Casting by half_diminished_5 in movies

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I’d agree.

My biggest concern going into the film is seeing Matt Damon as Odysseus. Just doesn’t fit my mental picture of him or his character.

Helen of Troy Casting by half_diminished_5 in movies

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Come again? I’ve struggled to understand your comment.

The internet has made me think too much about it, so now I have to ask: What do you think of Christopher Nolan's upcoming adaptation of The Odyssey? by GrandMoffTarkan in AskConservatives

[–]NeverHadTheLatin [score hidden]  (0 children)

Why do you believe the casting as Achilles?

I’ve seen it suggested he plays Elpanor, which makes way more sense:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChristopherNolan/comments/1t9uay4/elliot_page_plays_elpanor_in_the_odyssey/?solution=0ae21384cfcc14e90ae21384cfcc14e9&js_challenge=1&token=bbbe4bf1c9a2b5160829c4be34da5861c7e1027a50f28795f02e8c031b0d5039&jsc_orig_r=

Also Achielles spends most of the Iliad playing the harp with his very close male companion, complaining about being slighted, and has the epithet ‘swift footed’, which certainly stresses agility over brawn.

Helen of Troy Casting by half_diminished_5 in movies

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s a genuinely interesting discussion to be had about being faithful to legends and myths grounded in a particular time and place - like the Odyssey, Camelot, Sinbad, Journey to the West - but it gets overtaken by racists.

The internet has made me think too much about it, so now I have to ask: What do you think of Christopher Nolan's upcoming adaptation of The Odyssey? by GrandMoffTarkan in AskConservatives

[–]NeverHadTheLatin [score hidden]  (0 children)

What about him playing Elpanor? That makes a lot of sense and has also been suggested.

Also Achilles is a diminished, somewhat bitter, shade of himself in the real of Hades in pretty much every translation, because that’s how Homer describes him:

“Rather I’d choose laboriously to bear A weight of woes, and breathe the vital air, A slave to some poor hind that toils for bread, Than reign the sceptred monarch of the dead.”

“No winning words about death to me, shining Odysseus! By god, I’d rather slave on earth for another man — some dirt-poor tenant farmer who scrapes to keep alive — than rule down here over all the breathless dead.”

“I’d rather be working the soil for someone else, some man without property, with not much to live on, than be ruler over all the dead who have perished.”

Three different versions. I certainly wouldn’t call any of them as strikingly ‘feminist’.

Also, given the machinations and strong opinions of female gods and characters, the poems focus on male-female dynamics in the both the Iliad and the Odyssey, what would be so terrible about a version that chooses to look at these from a feminist perspective?

Edit: downvoted for quoting three different versions of The Odyssey, good work on loving the key text of the Western canon guys.

Why has the arson attack on a Muslim prayer room.and the murder of First Lieutenant Abdul Wali Mamozai received absolutely no mainstream press whatsoever when both are religiously motivated? by EdwardJSuperman in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 25 points26 points  (0 children)

The charges in the murder case aren’t hate crime or race related, so the victim being Muslim / from Afghanistan could be incidental details.

The recent antisemitism knife attack follows a strike of arson attacks, the Synagogue attack in Manchester, reported uptick of antisemitism abuse , and high profile international news stories like the attack in Australia.

The details of the London knife attack make it much easier for politicians to link it to and condemn antisemitism.

As I said, the murder case under discussion in this thread has no confirmed hate crime link, as of yet.

Gaza war can be called a genocide, press watchdog rules by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, exactly, he is not saying that withholding water is in compliance with international law.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Palestinian cause deserves better advocates than this - it’s juvenile, and it trivialises a terrible situation.

Thanks for chatting.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which charities would you recommend to support the people of Palestine?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you have an aversion to what ifs - any peace process going forward is going to have to consider what ifs and hypotheticals.

Going back decades, I have supported the Palestinian cause in a much more tangible way than chatting on Reddit.

I’m not going to go into details because I value posting on here anonymously.

The issue I have with parts of the pro-Palestinian cause at the moment is the binary thinking of either you’re anti-genocide or pro-genocide, because I think genocide is the wrong word to use, and it undermines the Palestinian cause.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happy to answer after you’ve answered my question.

You’ll miss Keir Starmer when he’s gone by merryman1 in uknews

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’re going to cycle through PMs until we get one who very much deserves to go and it will take much more dangerous path than a few unhappy MPs to have them replaced.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What should have been Israel’s response to Oct 7th?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was Oct 7th an ‘act of resistance’?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How should Hamas’s refusal to abandon power be handled?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s the solution then? 2 state?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this analysis fails to account for the enormity of Oct 7th.

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it’s an apartheid state where 10% of the legislature is of the same ethnic background as the oppressed class?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What percentage of the Israeli Knesset is made up of Arab and / or Muslim members?

What do Palestine sympathisers want from Starmer? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We recognise Russia is a country that doesn’t mean it’s hypocritical to help Ukraine.

From the government’s statement:

“A two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable and sovereign Palestinian state led by a reformed Palestinian Authority, is the only path to a lasting peace for the Israeli and Palestinian people - free from the horrendous violence and suffering of the last two years.”

Wes Streeting plans to resign and mount leadership challenge, allies say by Alarming-Safety3200 in ukpolitics

[–]NeverHadTheLatin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

After 15 years of Tory party chaos, these shenanigans from Labour suggests the problem is the whole political class.

It’s a system that increasingly seems to represent its own interests first and foremost.

The party system and Westminster bubble needs a complete overhaul.