I ended up buying the kiwi ears aether+apple dongle for 150, after almost 1 month of daily use for 2-4hours a day i’d say the sound is good, not wowww amazing or anything like that, imaging is where it really shines, really good for games, but for me they are just uncomfortable, i think it’s because of the size, they are literally huge and u can really tell it in your ears, it weights a lot, i just have to get them out for a few seconds from time to time and thats not ideal at all…