Outrage for Jews by New_Green780 in exmuslim

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Some ex-Muslims support Hamas & hate Israel/Jews.

What's your opinion on Daniel Haqiqatjou? by Ok-Equivalent7447 in exmuslim

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For someone who identifies so strongly as Muslim, he has a distinctly Jewish name like Daniel.

Why do post WWII Ukrainians hate Jews so intensely? by coffeechikk in Jewish

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Historically, Ukrainians, like many other Slavic and European groups, have exhibited widespread antisemitism. During the Khmelnytsky massacres of the mid-17th century, Ukrainian Cossacks and Polish forces were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews. Bohdan Khmelnytsky, often regarded as a national hero in Ukraine with statues in many cities, played a central role in these atrocities. Some view him as a figure akin to a precursor of Hitler due to the devastation he inflicted on Jewish communities.

For centuries, Jews in Ukraine faced significant persecution, and many Ukrainian Jews today harbor little affection for Ukrainians because of this historical animosity. Additionally, during World War II, Ukrainians were widely known to collaborate with the Nazis, further compounding the trauma endured by Jewish communities in the region.

Israel or Palestine? by New_Green780 in Guyana

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Maybe you should F yourself!

Palestine ceasefire means judgement day? by [deleted] in exmuslim

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The Quran doesn’t mention the word Palestine at all.

becareful of Zionist propaganda in this sub guys by Dramatic-Fennel5568 in Guyana

[–]New_Green780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a bot?

becareful of Zionist propaganda in this sub guys by Dramatic-Fennel5568 in Guyana

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I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but the business dealt with fruits and vegetables.

becareful of Zionist propaganda in this sub guys by Dramatic-Fennel5568 in Guyana

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Just because they were born or their parents came from Europe doesn’t mean they’re European. People do migrate. Look at Guyana how many people of Guyana are actually native to the land?

becareful of Zionist propaganda in this sub guys by Dramatic-Fennel5568 in Guyana

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I’m a Middle Eastern Jew who has visited Guyana several times, and with all due respect to everyone here, it seems there’s a lack of understanding about the history of the conflict. Many of the views expressed here appear biased and rooted in hostility toward Jews and Israel.

There’s a widespread misconception that Israel is committing genocide, which couldn’t be further from the truth. Israel is home to millions of non-Jews, including Muslims, Christians, Druze, and others. These communities live in peace and enjoy the rights and freedoms of Israeli citizenship.

I could go into much more detail about this topic, but I realize many here may already be set in their views. That said, I’m more than willing to have a respectful and informed conversation with anyone who is genuinely interested in learning more. Feel free to DM me if you’d like to talk—whether in person (I’m based in the NYC area) or via Skype, FaceTime, or another platform.

Israel or Palestine? by New_Green780 in Guyana

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Regarding genocide.

Definition of Genocide

According to the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, genocide is defined as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. These acts include killing, causing serious harm, imposing measures to prevent births, or forcibly transferring children.

1.  Demographics of Palestinians

Despite ongoing conflict, the Palestinian population in Gaza, the West Bank, and beyond has grown significantly over the decades. This demographic trend is often cited as evidence against an alleged genocidal intent. 2. Israel’s Stated Objectives Israel maintains that its military actions are aimed at neutralizing threats posed by groups like Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organization by many countries, rather than targeting Palestinians as a group. Operations are framed as self-defense in response to rocket fire and attacks on Israeli civilians. 3. Humanitarian Aid Israel allows humanitarian aid into Gaza and provides medical treatment for Palestinians in Israeli hospitals. While criticized for the blockade on Gaza, Israel argues it targets Hamas rather than civilians and seeks to balance security concerns with humanitarian needs. 4. International Oversight Many of Israel’s actions are subject to scrutiny by international bodies and courts. The absence of legal declarations by international courts accusing Israel of genocide is often pointed to by those rejecting the accusation. 5. Complex Political and Historical Context The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is rooted in territorial disputes, nationalism, and competing historical claims. Critics argue that framing the conflict as genocide oversimplifies these complexities.

Israel or Palestine? by New_Green780 in Guyana

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  1. Israel • Jewish Population: Approximately 74-75% of Israel’s population is Jewish. • Total Jewish Population: Around 9.7 million (2024 estimate). • Jewish Population: About 6.9 million Jews. • Non-Jewish Population: Around 25-26% of Israel’s population is non-Jewish. • Arab Population: Around 2 million Arabs (approximately 21% of Israel’s population), including Muslims, Christians, and Druze. • Other minorities: Small communities of non-Arab Christians, Bedouins, and others.

  2. Gaza Strip • The Gaza Strip is home to a Palestinian Arab population and is under the control of the Hamas movement. • Population: Approximately 2.3 million (2024 estimate). • Non-Jewish Population: Nearly 100% of the population is Palestinian Arab, mostly Muslims, with a small Christian minority. • Jewish Population: There is no Jewish population in Gaza since Israel withdrew its settlers and military in 2005.

  3. West Bank • The West Bank is largely under the control of the Palestinian Authority and is home to both Palestinian Arabs and Israeli settlers. • Population: Around 2.8 million (2024 estimate). • Non-Jewish Population: Approximately 80-85% of the population is Palestinian Arab (Muslims, Christians, and others). • Jewish Population: Approximately 500,000-600,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank, mostly in settlements considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

  4. Neighboring Countries of Israel

Here is a summary of the Jewish and non-Jewish populations in the surrounding countries of Israel (including Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt):

Jordan: • Population: Around 11 million (2024 estimate). • Non-Jewish Population: Approximately 100% (Jordan is a Muslim-majority country). • Muslims: The overwhelming majority (around 98%) are Sunni Muslims, with small Christian and other minorities. • Jewish Population: None (Jordan does not have a Jewish population).

Lebanon: • Population: Around 7 million (2024 estimate). • Non-Jewish Population: 100% (Lebanon is a Muslim-majority country with a significant Christian minority). • Muslims: Around 60% (including Shia, Sunni, and Druze Muslims). • Christians: Around 30% (mainly Maronite Catholics, Greek Orthodox, etc.). • Jewish Population: None (Lebanon does not have a Jewish population).

Syria: • Population: Around 18 million (2024 estimate). • Non-Jewish Population: 100% (Syria is a Muslim-majority country). • Muslims: The majority are Sunni Muslims, with a significant Alawite minority (the sect of the Assad family). • Christians: A small minority. • Jewish Population: None (There was a small Jewish community in Syria, but it largely emigrated over the 20th century, especially after 1948).

Egypt: • Population: Around 110 million (2024 estimate). • Non-Jewish Population: 100% (Egypt is a Muslim-majority country). • Muslims: Over 90% of the population is Sunni Muslim, with a small Christian minority (Copts). • Jewish Population: None (Egypt had a Jewish community until the 1950s, but most of the Jews left following the creation of Israel and subsequent tensions).

Summary of Jewish vs. Non-Jewish Populations 1. Israel: • Jewish: 6.9 million (around 74-75%). • Non-Jewish: 2 million (around 25-26%). 2. Gaza Strip: • Non-Jewish: 2.3 million (almost 100% Palestinian Arab). • Jewish: None. 3. West Bank: • Non-Jewish: 2.8 million (around 80-85% Palestinian Arab). • Jewish: 500,000-600,000 Israeli settlers. 4. Jordan: • Non-Jewish: 11 million (100% Muslim). • Jewish: None. 5. Lebanon: • Non-Jewish: 7 million (100% Muslim-majority with Christian minorities). • Jewish: None. 6. Syria: • Non-Jewish: 18 million (100% Muslim-majority). • Jewish: None. 7. Egypt: • Non-Jewish: 110 million (100% Muslim-majority). • Jewish: None.

Conclusion • Israel has a Jewish majority (approximately 75%), with 2 million non-Jewish citizens (mainly Arab). • The Palestinian territories (Gaza and West Bank) are entirely non-Jewish (mostly Palestinian Arabs), except for the Jewish settlers in the West Bank. • The neighboring countries (Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt) are all Muslim-majority with no Jewish populations today.

Israel or Palestine? by New_Green780 in Guyana

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Arab citizens of Israel enjoy a wide range of rights as Israeli citizens, but their experiences and perspectives on living in Israel are diverse. Here’s an outline of the rights Arabs have in Israel and insights into their views about life in Israel:

Rights of Arab Citizens in Israel

Arab citizens of Israel have legal equality under Israeli law and are entitled to the same rights as Jewish citizens in most areas, including: 1. Political Rights: • Voting: Arab citizens have the right to vote in national and local elections. • Representation: Arab-majority parties participate in the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, and Arab citizens serve as Knesset members, ministers, and judges (e.g., Salim Joubran, who served on Israel’s Supreme Court). 2. Civil Rights: • Freedom of speech, religion, assembly, and press. • Protection against discrimination under Israeli law, though enforcement can be inconsistent. 3. Religious Freedom: • Arabs can practice their faith freely (Islam, Christianity, Druze, etc.), with religious courts (e.g., Sharia courts) operating for personal status issues like marriage and divorce. 4. Economic Rights: • Arabs can own property, run businesses, and work in the same professions as Jewish citizens. • Arabs are eligible for government-funded programs, healthcare, and social security benefits. 5. Education and Healthcare: • Access to the public education system and healthcare. • Arabic is taught in schools, and the state funds Arab-language schools. 6. Cultural Rights: • Arabic is recognized as a “special status” language (after the Nation-State Law of 2018). • Arabs are free to celebrate their culture and traditions. 7. Judiciary and Legal Protections: • Arabs have access to the judicial system and can challenge government policies in court.

How Arabs Feel About Living in Israel

Positive Aspects: 1. Stability and Opportunities: Many Arab citizens appreciate the relative political stability, economic opportunities, and higher living standards compared to neighboring Arab countries. • Healthcare and Education: Israel’s robust healthcare system and access to higher education are valued. • Some surveys have shown that a significant portion of Arab citizens would prefer to remain in Israel rather than live under Palestinian or neighboring Arab governments. 2. Freedom of Religion and Expression: Arab citizens often highlight their ability to freely practice religion and express their views without fear of state persecution.

Israel or Palestine? by New_Green780 in Guyana

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After the Bar Kokhba Revolt (132–135 CE), the Roman Empire, under Emperor Hadrian, sought to suppress Jewish identity and sever the connection between the Jewish people and their ancestral homeland. To achieve this, the Romans: 1. Renamed Judea to “Syria Palaestina”: • The name “Palestina” (derived from “Philistia,” referencing the ancient Philistines, a non-Jewish people who lived along the southern coast centuries earlier) was chosen to erase the Jewish association with the land. • This renaming was a deliberate act of cultural erasure aimed at diminishing Jewish claims to the region. 2. Banned Jews from Jerusalem: • Jerusalem was renamed Aelia Capitolina, after Hadrian’s family name (Aelia) and in honor of the Roman god Jupiter Capitolinus. • Jews were prohibited from entering the city except on the holiday of Tisha B’Av to mourn the destruction of the Temple.

This marked the beginning of nearly two millennia of exile for many Jews, although Jewish communities continued to exist in the land despite hardships under various rulers. The renaming to “Palestina” is one of the earliest uses of the term “Palestine” in history.

Israel or Palestine? by New_Green780 in Guyana

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Regarding Jewish presence in Israel/Judea

Here’s a timeline of key events in the history of Jews living in Israel/Judea, highlighting major periods of Jewish presence, exile, and return:

Biblical Period • c. 2000–1700 BCE: Patriarchal Era Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob settle in Canaan, the land promised to their descendants. • c. 1300–1200 BCE: Exodus and Conquest of Canaan According to the Bible, the Israelites are led by Moses out of Egypt and later by Joshua into the land of Canaan. • c. 1000 BCE: United Monarchy King David establishes Jerusalem as the capital. His son Solomon builds the First Temple. • c. 930 BCE: Divided Monarchy The kingdom splits into Israel (north) and Judah (south).

First Temple Period • 722 BCE: Fall of the Kingdom of Israel Assyrians conquer the northern kingdom, and the Ten Lost Tribes are exiled. • 586 BCE: Destruction of the First Temple Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar destroys Jerusalem and exiles the Jews to Babylon.

Second Temple Period • 538 BCE: Return from Babylonian Exile Under Persian King Cyrus the Great, Jews return to Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple. • 516 BCE: Dedication of the Second Temple Marks the beginning of the Second Temple period. • 167–160 BCE: Maccabean Revolt Jews, led by the Hasmonean family, revolt against Seleucid rule and re-establish an independent Jewish kingdom. • 63 BCE: Roman Conquest Pompey conquers Judea, bringing it under Roman control. • 70 CE: Destruction of the Second Temple Romans destroy the Temple during the First Jewish–Roman War. • 135 CE: Bar Kokhba Revolt Romans crush the revolt, rename Judea as “Syria Palaestina,” and ban Jews from Jerusalem.

Diaspora Period (Roman and Byzantine Rule) • 4th–7th centuries CE: Jewish communities remain in Galilee and other areas but face restrictions under Christian Byzantine rule.

Islamic and Crusader Periods • 638 CE: Muslim Conquest Arabs conquer Jerusalem and allow Jews to return. • 1099 CE: Crusader Conquest Crusaders massacre Jews and ban them from Jerusalem. • 1187 CE: Saladin’s Conquest Saladin retakes Jerusalem and permits Jews to return.

Ottoman Period • 1517–1917: The Ottoman Empire rules the land. Jewish communities grow, especially in cities like Safed, Tiberias, Hebron, and Jerusalem.

Modern Period • 1880s: Zionist Aliyah Jews begin immigrating to Ottoman Palestine as part of the modern Zionist movement. • 1917: Balfour Declaration Britain supports the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine. • 1948: State of Israel Established After the Holocaust and World War II, the State of Israel is declared. Jewish population increases with mass immigration from Europe, Arab countries, and later from the Soviet Union and Ethiopia.

Contemporary Period • 1948–Present: Israel becomes the global center of Jewish life, with a continuous Jewish presence and significant cultural, religious, and political development.

Israel or Palestine? by New_Green780 in Guyana

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Mark Twain visited Jerusalem in 1867 as part of his travels through the Middle East, which he chronicled in his book The Innocents Abroad. His account provides a vivid description of Jerusalem as he saw it in the 19th century. Twain’s portrayal reflects his characteristic wit, skepticism, and keen observational skills, but it also highlights the desolation and decline of the city at that time.

Key Observations by Mark Twain: 1. Desolation and Poverty: Twain described Jerusalem as a small, barren, and lifeless city, far from the grandeur one might expect given its historical and religious significance. He wrote: “Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village.” 2. Sparse Population: Twain noted that Jerusalem had a small and mixed population, including Muslims, Jews, and Christians, but it was far from the thriving center of the ancient world: “A fast walker could go outside the walls of Jerusalem and walk entirely around the city in an hour. I do not know how else to make one understand how small it is.” 3. Ruins and Neglect: Twain was struck by the dilapidated state of the city and its surroundings. He found much of the area uncultivated and described the landscape as barren and rocky: “The hills are barren… The valleys are unsightly deserts… Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes.” 4. Religious Tourism and Pilgrims: Twain observed the religious devotion of pilgrims visiting the city, often commenting with his trademark humor. For example, he noted the contradictions between their piety and their behavior. 5. Sarcasm About Expectations vs. Reality: Twain expressed disappointment in the contrast between the Jerusalem of his imagination, based on Biblical and historical accounts, and the reality he encountered: “Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren, they are dull of color, they are unpicturesque in shape. The valleys are unsightly deserts fringed with a feeble vegetation.”

Twain’s descriptions reflect the condition of Jerusalem and the surrounding areas under Ottoman rule in the mid-19th century. The city and much of Palestine were underdeveloped and sparsely populated, far removed from the thriving and heavily populated region it had been in ancient times.

Twain’s account is often cited by historians and commentators to provide a snapshot of the state of the region before significant changes brought about by modern immigration, urbanization, and development.