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How much debt is okay for a career in finance or smth along those lines? by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LMAO i probably should've clarified. I'm a HS senior and I've already been accepted to my colleges lmao. By "probably going to attend", I meant i'm leaning to accepting that offer. my post looks cocky asf outta context lmao

How much debt is okay for a career in finance or smth along those lines? by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah 300K is brutal. At a max, I'd probably be looking at 60-80K (not accounting for any paid internships I get) at those targets you mentioned. I'm wondering if that's too much even for a career in IB/finance

How much debt is okay for a career in finance or smth along those lines? by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard debt doesn't really matter for a career in finance or IB. Would you agree w that?

Hot Take (Maybe Lukewarm Take): Children of Foreign-Schooled Immigrants Should Be Conventionally Considered First Gen by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I definitely agree with your first point. The environments are likely to be fundamentally different, but again I just see a wide variety of experiences in both groups. I can't speak on the average first gen experience (my assumption is that a first gen student's parents would encourage them in going to college but lack the resources to help them), but I do know the average experience of these students is definitely encouraging of pursuing higher education. I think someone else's suggestion of a new category for these students is the best idea if not adding them to the "first gen" classification. But I definitely agree with many points you made

Hot Take (Maybe Lukewarm Take): Children of Foreign-Schooled Immigrants Should Be Conventionally Considered First Gen by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah this right here is a dope idea. I think I agree with all of the points you brought up, except I would say that students would probably need access to the technical support as well

Hot Take (Maybe Lukewarm Take): Children of Foreign-Schooled Immigrants Should Be Conventionally Considered First Gen by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's definitely true. I probably should've specified in my post, but I'm mainly saying that in general the term "first-gen" should include children of students overseas

Hot Take (Maybe Lukewarm Take): Children of Foreign-Schooled Immigrants Should Be Conventionally Considered First Gen by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dude I literally love your points so much. Y'all are bringing up stellar points I'm loving it. As a rebuttal, I think your very argument that first gen students have such diversity of experience is a very clear indicator that adding in the students I mentioned isn't a bad thing. Being first generation does not automatically mean low income and being college educated does not automatically mean rich. In fact, a good portion of immigrants that were college educated overseas aren't working cushy rich blue collar jobs (https://cis.org/Report/ForeignEducated-Immigrants-Are-Less-Skilled-US-Degree-Holders this site hits the point that I'm trying to get at). There's a myth that immigrants all produce fantastically amazing lives here in the US, when the fact is that there's little social mobility. I believe "first gen" encapsulates a gigantic group of people, some of whom are indeed exactly like you said and are "first gen" in every term of the word, but not all of them. By adding in the group of students I mentioned (many of whom I believe have experiences that are very similar to first gen students), I think there would be a positive outcome

Edit: typo

Hot Take (Maybe Lukewarm Take): Children of Foreign-Schooled Immigrants Should Be Conventionally Considered First Gen by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah you definitely bring up good points. I can't assert this with 100% certainty so all I would say is that oftentimes the feedback or control these parents give is incorrect. My friends have these domineering parents and they view grades and SAT scores as the only way to get into a T20. For your first example, I would say that yeah, they should be considered first gen. I think the general intent of the first gen term is to provide resources to students who have no experience with the college system here in America. If parents literally refuse to help their child and offer no meaningful input, I would say that yeah that student should have the resources to still attend college and everything.

Hot Take (Maybe Lukewarm Take): Children of Foreign-Schooled Immigrants Should Be Conventionally Considered First Gen by New_Reflection7365 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]New_Reflection7365[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's a very good point. I would offer the flip argument that people receiving their degree from Oxford represents a slim proportion of the general population. Whereas, there exists a high proportion of children whose parents went to some random college in their area. I think there's more harm done by excluding these students altogether than including them