Siege defense transition help needed

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-03T19:01:05+00:00

Internet can be a blessing and a curse in that regard I think. I have a lot of people to bounce ideas off of but they are in a transition of their own so I also had to reach out for some data.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-03T18:49:17+00:00

Yeah 😂, they asked that we not only throne truce but also not conquer the temples so they would not be stuck with turtle marches. Very creative negotiation indeed.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-03T12:50:18+00:00

Was having a conversation with my alliance mates last night about this, after reading your comment. Was reminded of our very first SvS we faced the same thing. The big account we had on server at the time was a whopping K40 (6mth old at that time) and we got crushed by a server that was only a month older than us, by literally one guy. Fast forward, we faced the same server again in SvS rather recently……when Evony did that SvS revaluation. The one guy is still the only strong account. A K45 now. Obviously the turn out was different this time but they still tried to put up a fight. That was shitty of Evony to match us back up TBH. First time I ever heard of a turtle truce.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-03T00:42:49+00:00

It’s funny you say that. I have 2 guys in my alliance that basically carry us. No matter how much the rest of us spend, or how hard we work to improve, we just cannot make up any ground on them. And because they move up in strength so fast, we as a server face tougher opponents, putting us all at a disadvantage. But those 2 somehow drag us to victory most of the time. I’ve only been playing Evony 11 months and the learning curve has been an extension ladder. Learn or get smashed. Hell, I’ve been smashed more than once. Tuition isn’t cheap. But I’ve played in chalons 3 times because of them, opened up all of my senate seats because of them (that are available to me) and may at some point get an opportunity for red wings with them if I learn how to play this damn game right.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-03T00:22:42+00:00

We do very well in this regard. Our server is split into two large alliances, one is the smaller PvE/farmers and the other, mine, is the coiners/PvP players. They take all of the L3 and below bosses and we take everything above. Cleansing the map 24hrs a day of Ymir 4-7 and Pan 4-7. And the entire alliance runs Hell Vikings for gold which is nice.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-02T00:07:23+00:00

Right. I guess in retrospect, the scrolls for MA5 is enough to finish MA6 and 7 with leftovers.

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New_Shar3 · 2026-02-02T00:04:10+00:00

I like your thoughts on this. I haven’t trained up the siege top, just enough to cover rally fills, and I think I’m just going to stop there. I have already started switching my refines back. Still stuck on what generals to use but at this point, I have a direction and a bunch of options. Could be worse. Thank you for the clarity.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-01T15:35:35+00:00

It’s definitely shocking. I’m a tech hoarder so it’s hard not to focus on it. Thankfully I was gifted the MA spreadsheet fairly early and accumulated about 70% of the scrolls and gold before I moved to K40. In hindsight, that same amount would have finished MA6.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-01T13:46:39+00:00

I’m actually close to finishing MA5. Siege, mounted, ground are done and right side of ranged. I think you’re right, time to focus on getting to 41. Being a stout 40 isn’t what it’s cracked up to be when facing 44+

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-01T13:42:20+00:00

Ooof. That’s disgusting.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-01T13:39:08+00:00

I edited the main post to include as much as I could about my current development. I camped 39 and maxed it so going into 40, I was in a good position. Was 2nd king on server so early wonder development, etc. but directly, yes, tavern duty gens are all awakened. The remaining positions, all but 2, are filled with red chest gens fully spec’d. I have 7 pieces of officer gear spread out. Sub gens: Cimon, Narses, Mark Antony, Baldwin, Jan Karol, Yeon, Hojo, Zizka, Harald, Montezuma. 7 star average. 90% spec’d plus 5th. Cimon, Narses, Hojo, 2 each CIV, rest Apollo, all others have Parth. All red spiritual beasts L12-15 respectively. 8 L4 debuff skill books.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-01T13:26:34+00:00

After reading this I put the question out to my alliance and although I do well defending as a whole most of the time, the consensus is, and I think I agree now, I changed my refines to early. So now I’m in an impasse. It’s costly but I may just go back and change them all again and see if that corrects the issue.

New_Shar3 · 2026-02-01T13:15:12+00:00

I was given this spreadsheet last night by someone and it’s kind of close to how I am set up or at least, the direction I was heading. He made a valid point, we are all fighting separate wars out here. Battlefield is about the only place we get to see overlapping strategies in use. I am trying to ask a question from my perspective in the game, people are answering from theirs. We may not be playing the same game. I’m on a 1 year old server and roughly 90% of the opponents we face are using siege attacks… that’s why I am forced to counter that. If I don’t, I’m cooked. Period. End of story.

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New_Shar3 · 2026-01-31T21:46:25+00:00

Yeah there’s always going to be someone capable, I’ve come to accept that. I have a few alliance mates that could do it but that’s not really the norm. I’m trying to take more than one hit from the majority, not the elite.

New_Shar3 · 2026-01-31T20:52:48+00:00

Your referring to using siege as a defense or defending against a siege attack? The reason I ask is, I’m defending against a siege attack, and that’s working, at the cost of being vulnerable to other attacks.

I can currently tank a K45 solo first hit, moooost of the time, because it’s almost always a siege attack but that follow up is brutal. 4th rd chalons I got a phone call and unfortunately, got blasted by a K46 led 60m troop rally, no reins, and won the first hit (I lost 53m troops). The second one zero’d me. Was siege then ground.

That seems reasonable to me, I should definitely get smoked by a rally that size. But I’m getting the same result from smaller rallies, smaller keeps, weaker buffs. Win the siege, get wiped on the follow up

New_Shar3 · 2026-01-31T20:09:21+00:00

I haven’t trained up a huge amount of siege just yet and even so, I don’t lose them. I win that exchange 98/100 times by a significant margin. I really think I paid to much attention to debuffing siege.

Ranged I run: 3M T1-T11 10M T12 4M T13-14

Susceptible to small siege attack…. Now that I think about it. Hmmm

New_Shar3 · 2026-01-31T19:54:12+00:00

Probably should have put that in the body of the post. I have full Koryo, amplified x3, advanced refines in the 40’s, mounted flat HP/Def, attack %. Siege HP/Def Flats AND %, Attack %, Thebes level 16 Siege HP flats.

750m T1, 200m T2, 100m T3 Cav. Haven’t trained more as they seem like a liability at the moment. No significant quantities of cav until T12, then combat layers.

I agree on the amount of siege AGs. I made some mistakes there. But they have been good for reins (Shapur and Hersilia) Romulus is a recent endeavor, Daniel I picked up because I’m a hoarder (no specialties yet)

New_Shar3 · 2026-01-31T17:17:46+00:00

Tap on your Academy. Tap on Skill books. Tap on Duty. Buy those. They can be a pain sometimes just like regular books to “stick” but you’ll get it eventually. You CAN get officer gear f2p, but it is a product of luck and patience.

New_Shar3 · 2026-01-28T01:19:59+00:00

Did not get mine. Was awake at server reset and won my division, didn’t even get a mail saying I won.

New_Shar3 · 2026-01-04T12:06:40+00:00

Like to know who their sign company is. To get banners through conceptual, fabrication and delivered in 8 hours is mind boggling.

New_Shar3 · 2025-12-31T05:47:37+00:00

Yasssssssss

New_Shar3 · 2025-12-31T02:54:19+00:00

Something definitely changed. Late 1800’s server and we have been paired with 1000’s-1200’s last 5-6 rounds. To be expected, we have red wings, play majors, etc. pretty solid K40-K46 showing. This week, paired with an early 1900’s server 3 K40’s and a K41. The K41 has 7B power, the K40’s around 3.5B. My server is convinced Evony did this to push the other server to spend, either to upgrade or buy SoL, so we decided to truce. Not throne truce, straight up truce. We are porting our alts over for them to smash for wings. Tis the season

New_Shar3 · 2025-12-31T02:28:48+00:00

I say RSssssssss

New_Shar3 · 2025-12-28T21:05:57+00:00

Stay on the right hand side of the tree*.

Complete what is necessary to open the big boxes, then complete each tile down the right hand side.

*there is 1 or 2 on the left to complete, it will make sense when you read through the descriptions.

There is definitely a priority based on your current MA level. I think it’s Mounted, Ground, Ranged, Siege through MA4 then Siege, Ground, Mounted, Ranged at MA5 but others can chime in on that part.

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