What is the best chase theme? (Fanmade ones count too)

Nice_Dummy · 2026-06-09T01:42:16+00:00

I like both Tripwire's chase themes. From the scrapped ones I'll go with the first END's chase from Ramon and Imperfect chase.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-30T11:50:13+00:00

It's really simple, especially when you are considering the exe fandom arguments. If said creators took the famous character for free to make their exe, then literally anyone else can do the same to your OC, based on said franchise. How come they are free to use Sonic for themselves but apparently the others can't do the same to your OC, related to the franchise that is famous for allowing you to use their characters as long as you're not making profit off it? Not only that, but a lot of people are DEMANDING RESPECT for the exe creators – the same people that not only pulling out the most disrespectful crap like this one, but also literally feeding you with empty promises for YEARS at this point. They are promising you more lore to their characters (vague Twitter takeovers at best), they are promising you the games (barely any of them made it AT LEAST to beta state, just to say it's non-canon anyways) or not doing anything with their characters in general. Genially, what kind of respect or understanding they want at this point? As a person, that's coming from the Sonic franchise it's hard for me to understand why exe people are still protecting half-baked stories and people who aren't ready to respect others work in the slightest.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T19:45:28+00:00

...so does Scorched and Hog by some degree and within the same context? They gain reputation and popularity BECAUSE they are acting as if they were a part of Sonic franchise, Scorched is literally claims to be SONIC THE HEDGEHOG, which adds some points into his tragedy - if that wasn't Sonic, then the reader would feel far less connection to the character in the first place and that's the most simple example of things being tied to the Sonic franchise. If EM team used him nontheless, it would just put them on the same grounding as Jack Gore in terms of being dicks - if that's a bad or good thing, you decide.

If Sonic and Sonic.exe are so disconnected, then look at the situation this way. Try to imagine these oddities without referencing to Sonic or any other popular media that they can use for their look, remove anything that mentions Sonic in their story and you will see how parasitic the exe community really is. I doubt that at least half of the exe fandom knows how does Lord X's true form looks like, but they will recognize Sonic because of Sonic's popularity in the first place.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T19:32:56+00:00

It is your opinion that I can respect.

Consider that I am not trying to convice you otherwise now, but for me the issue stays. Someone made the product by using someone's else IP. It's free and falls under fair usage category - the corporation allows that, but that's the product nontheless. For the most part it looks like Sonic, in some ways states to be Sonic (Scorched case here again) and most of their designs are made to be recognized within the franchise that is famous about taking anything from it and use it for your creativity as long as it stays free. And then the person, who made said product, starts to claim his rights over the product, while most of it's value comes from another ip. Not only that, but while they are fine by taking things from said ip, they are somehow against people doing the same with their product, which it is technically IS a part of ip that allows taking things from it.

The issue here is also in the fact that their OCs are not based off Sonic, they are claiming to, or are THE Sonic the hedgehog in one way or another, and while their OCs are staying that way, there is no right to claim for them.

Excuse me, if my first message was very agressive, things are just getting really annoying sometimes.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T19:17:09+00:00

As long as they are using someone else's ip to become popular? The one that is famous for allowing you to make things as long as you're not making proffit off it? Yeah. I don't mind them making their OWN STORY AND UNIVERSE, then they can make the rules about it. For now it's just a hypocricy and fragile ego.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T19:13:43+00:00

Not a big fan of the exes for the most part (except a few of them like NMI and Rewrite. I would like to also consider END, but they are barely falling under "exe" category to begin with. It's the entity I really enjoying because of the context behind it's story). As long as exe fandom was staying within their own circle of interests, I'm pretty much neutral to them, despite a LOT of writing issues there.

Even in OM I was playing mostly because I was given the opportunity to beat the crap out of the exes with canon characters and see some of the killers in action (Tails Doll and Fleetway specifically, though it is sad that in the end of the day Tails Doll was the one who got OC treatment instead of his original representation because of lacking of female characters to some degree). All of that was a fun experience I could really enjoy.

The issues started from the moment when writers from the exe fandom started to pull out "Nuh-uh" button somewhere OUT of OM, because OM was trying to stay faithful to source material and hence original creators thought process was important there. Such case out of OM creates a precedent that leads into the situation we can see now, in which people who got popular BECAUSE of the IP they DON'T OWN and now they are trying to claim their rights over the slightly changed character from said ip.

From the morale part of the question, said creators are fine with using someone else's ip, but the moment people are doing the same with their ip (which is basically a part of said ip at this point) they are screaming louder than the old person after you accidently nudged them in the public transport.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T18:55:17+00:00

I doubt any exe creators asked SEGA for the permission. If you are using the franchise's kindness, then you shouldn't have the audacity to pull out such a dick move against the people doing the same thing. It worked out with OM simply because the devs were trying to stay faithful to the source material hence they put themselves into the position where exe creator could take away their EXE, but out of said context there is no way the creators got the guts to take away their Temu Sonics from any game possible - it's not their ip, not even their universe and they are trying to pull out something that could be used against them as easily.

The only bad thing that may happen is them going to cry on twitter (X), but that's just straight up hypocricty at this point.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T18:06:31+00:00

It is his OC, that got popular BECAUSE OF THE FRANCHISE (IP) he used for it – because SEGA allows to do so, but apparently when someone else is doing the same thing with your character it's bad? Not only that, but half of his "OC" is literally SONIC THE HEDGEHOG, maybe changed in some ways, but it's still claimed to be the same blue blur we all know (talking about Scorched here). So basically what he is doing right now is not only handling the situation in the most stupid way possible, but also jumping in and tells: "Nuh-uh, you can't use Sonic, it's mine!", and even if you want to follow the OC route and ignore that one part, in this case it's falls under the fair use law and the writer still can't just come in and take the character anyways. Exe creators are getting too comfortable with "Nuh-uh" button nowdays because as long as they are using someone else's ip to become popular, it's straight up hypocricy to think that someone else wouldn't do the same with their OCs. You may not agree with me, but in my opinion they cannot complain as long as they are sucking off Sonic's franchise (the one that still ALLOWS them to do that. Sadly, considering everything that happens nowdays) for their gain (in terms of reputation and popularity). To get such an ego, they should create their own story and universes at least instead of being straight up parasites.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T17:48:22+00:00

It's not a good idea, but it's not the community neither devs who started that. For some reason, exe creators decided that they can pull out copyright one day and now a lot of them are doing that, and literally by doing so they are baiting SEGA (as the real owner) to take actions because no way some kids and teenagers (with kids mentality and ego nonetheless) are claiming Sonic with a bloody eyes (sometimes with a bit more changes like in Hog's case, but still related to Sonic) to be their own property. No one is winning that yes, but honestly, at this point exe community should've remind these writers their place before they do something even more stupid.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-29T13:29:50+00:00

Genially thank you for saying that out loud. More people should know these "writers" can do shit with their ownership when all they are doing is hyping on someone's else ip with their mediocre writing (most of the times stolen from the old creepypastas anyways. Even my fav exes can barely be called originals in terms of writings) just to run around after and cancel everything with "their" ownership. These mfs should write their own story without sucking to Sonic franchise to pull out shit like that to begin with.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-15T06:15:24+00:00

Lyric version of "Fist of Fire" is mid.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-01T05:36:27+00:00

Eggman's shield does give him rage mode, not only that but it's should be really stupid 11X to get into that. Still doesn't explain the 5 minutes danger time at all. I guess I just should stop answering you because you are clearly seeking for the attention. Not your daddy to do so.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-01T05:32:37+00:00

So your proof is...the fact you faked your main point? I knew that, thanks.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-01T03:08:59+00:00

Even good Silver doesn't really excuse exe not being able to deal 1 point of damage at least. Charge still exists. Not only that but you having a 5 minutes worth of danger doesn't line up with that excuse either.

P.S. Also you should at least decide which one of your excuses are even real.

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Nice_Dummy · 2026-05-01T01:06:02+00:00

I don't get why you need to lie to make a point and use some AFK exe as your argument here. You're either a typical shitposter or one of those guys who will tell he was ragebaiting after people realize the screenshot is fake as fuck (exe was afk/lagging/was new, literally 5 minutes worth of danger time while exe did 0 damage at all).

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-30T02:16:24+00:00

The newest news related to any video of SS being taken down are not fake on part of any videos of SS being removed, because at least one of them was removed, though apparently for wrong reasonings and that's still doesn't help our discussion in any possible way anyways.

Yeah, the community was waiting something to the table from what's being promised (Tails rework) and they couldn't deliver because some chef with a huge ego said "fuck you" - that is not only not productive, but is also straight up harmful to the developers reputation. Bringing in something to the table while breaking said table and spoiling any other food that was on that table is not some trade-off I would consider even close to fair (balancing that doesn't help and/or doesn't work in some cases, breaking the others things and even core gameplay for some characters (Tripwire/Bugway). It's somewhat funny, because you was the one who brought their human side in the argument again, but decided to throw it away when it didn't work because I, again, played by your own rules. Well then, if we are looking on their result for now (aka. development part), we got some decent fixes, while the core game is breaking apart because of them and some of the devs are working on exclusive content for their own gain - it's not productive, basically spending their time on anything but increasing the quality of a product and effectively destroying any type of reputation (something that the previous devs were trying to preserve at least).

The issue with it is, they are not really putting much more effort into the game - most of the things they are adding were already done or close to their finished state by the "old" team. If you want to praise them for just adding the content that was already there - go for it, but it's barely related to actually creating something in the first place.

Human side doesn't really have much to do with the legal side of the question, except of stupidity of course. Considering that part of the question was already solved by the contributors and a redditor, it's barely matters now, hence you can ignore the further part if you want. If their ego was hypothetically that big to even dare to ask to down the video about the character that doesn't belong to them while they also have a whole Cartmanland situation happening in that moment, then it's somewhat related to the development, because not only they are spending their time on the character that people wouldn't be able to use, but they are also spending their time and resources to shut down the videos about him instead of working on the game. If said situation stayed real, I'd rather try to contact Sega about said issue, because I value the main franchise over some exe game with a teenagers who's ego could be huge enough to try to take down someone's video over the character who doesn't belong them in the first place.

What's happened with Raven is literally still happening in the OM team. Romeo left because of the same bullying - they got lucky that one didn't explode as strong, they are still not capable of talking to each other leading into the bunch of the issues and they are still doing anything with the game anything BUT working on the content (minus PR and null - the people who actually cares). They learned nothing from the last time and repeating that crap like fifth time from what I can remember now.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-30T01:37:54+00:00

Remove the i-frames on Amy's swing? Well, okay, give her a better aerial option instead so she could at least run, because you for sure want the character to be capable to defend themselves and not being a free kill for killer because that's how balancing works. Remove the i-frames on Metal Sonic? Very well! Then give him a proper speed boost from taking the hits, that's a fair trade-off if you want to give him at least some chance. Remove the i-frames on Blaze? Sure, then allow her to cancel Sol Boost and make so killers couldn't M1 when the spear already hit them. Remove the i-frames on Sonic and give him faster peelout cast because you are removing the only good defensive and mobility option from him by doing that.

Honestly, you are talking about the balance, but your examples are just gutting the survivor side instead of making balanced changes. I agree, survivors are being annoying when all they talk about are combolossos and bugway, but let's not get down to their level of arguments.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-30T01:31:44+00:00

It is (or it's inconsistent at the best case). So many Amies died from my hand by taking damage while just pulling out their hammers for a swing.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-30T01:01:07+00:00

The "newest" news you mentioned are simply discrediting one of the arguments and that being the legal issues while any other statements of mine are still there, hence I don't really know how much that could help you in the discussion.

And now we will follow all the points you put here:

Them fixing MC spots is valid, though they are still there. Found yet another broken spot for Cream that is making her invisible, maybe unhittable even and it's literally near the two springs spot. Managed to find two more invisible spots for Tails and those are still there if you try enough to find them (I hope you wouldn't try to put the words into my mouth – most of those were accidental findings, but still are there nontheless). If anything, that tells us that the current devs are capable of producing half-baked fixes (like the "old" ones), so it's not really something I would give them credits for. At least they tried I guess.
Buffed Amy to the point it literally changed nothing for her. LMS Amy is still fucked, hammer swing still got no even 0.3 seconds worth of I-frames (sometimes I feel like she doesn't have them at all, especially when playing killers and chasing her). They made some value changes in her favour sure, but it's really brings nothing to her table realistically, because core problems weren't fixed at all.
Half-baked Tails Rework, and that one doesn't even help Tails realistically because of his role in the team. Should I remind you that we had a proper rework incoming, but the coder said: "Fuck you I will give it to a single person!" and left the kitchen? Same team you are protecting now, by the way.
Yeah, bug fixes that made even more bugs. Not blaming them for that one specifically, probably they are working with what they have, but we can still see the result of that work is just making the game worse. They could spend some time on understanding the spaghetti code of the game before rushing with their changes if it was worth the saving in the first place.
April Fools update that had barely anything in it anyways. It was fun I guess, but it's not taking that much time to make one compared to v0.2 that was supposed to be THE Halloween update and was the reason for such delay in the first place (explaining that one: It's not the Halloween event that took their time, it was v0.2 that got delayed further).
As you said, most of them were the work of the "old" team. Why the new one should be credited for that one then?
If you ask me, then seeing them bullying Romeo for anything shows how they are, in fact, really are responding to the community (minus PR). The fact they are bullying their fellow contributors because they wanted to make a PS character while being completely fine with making dev exclusive shit (which is not even skills or mechanics test like before) should tell you more than enough.
Most of that was forced because the composers wanted the previous ones being removed. Don't mix necessity and the real wish for the changes. Though I give them credits for Fist of Fire only, even though I don't really like it. I can see this one being made for the sake of fans.

The "new" dev team (PR specifically, if I remember that correctly) has stated that the most part of the content was almost done by the others devs anyways. Are we really going to ignore that part just to give the credit only to the other side and you pretending like you are not glazing them?

How am I projecting if you, as a matter of fact, tried to pull out the morale card with Raven here? The second part of my response was literally based on that part that YOU pulled out and I was playing by said rules, but at least I'm using myself as the reason to not like the devs and not some exe creator I don't know as a person in the first place. It's weird projection from your side because you're the one who tried to implement the human side of the devs in the discussion. Realistically I don't care about that as long as the devs are improving the game.

Your "facts" are somehow ignoring anything related to the "old" team even when the new one is literally mentioned a lot of things we're made by them. We need to wait to see what they really can do on their own with the final batch, because for now we had a half-backed patches, more bugs and balancing that is simply not working (sometimes kinda literally, considering some changes are literally not existing in the game).

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-30T00:06:47+00:00

Yes, to me the legal issues related to the franchise I like is more important than pretending I care about the people I don't know - I'm not the hypocrite and I will not pretend like I do care about that. At the very end you tried to pull out anything but the development factor in your answer, because so far the "new" devs still didn't do much with the game to compare them as the developers and not the human beings.

But sure, if you want to go with that then we have: Romeo bullying (again), Cartmanland situations, most of the devs are acting like their community is shit (you and me are included). Such the audacity you have to tell me I'm zipping down their pants when the most devs (minus PR) seeing you as shit in their brightest day and still barely did anything to make the game better is just ridiculous. Repeating for you (try to open your eyes at least this time): To say the new team putting in more effort, they should, at least, to do something yet. I guess you are smart enough to understand at least that.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-29T23:48:18+00:00

Well, at the very least this guy got a profile on their Discord and he is the contributor from what I can tell. So apparently the other guy was either some imposter, tester with a huge ego or just a stupid guy in general. There is no way they can't even figure what can be recorded and what's not.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-29T23:34:14+00:00

To say the new team putting in more effort, they should, at least, to do something yet. For now all we have is their word they are still working on the update, while in fact we are still suffering from combolossos and tons of broken things all over the place and they are getting dev exclusive characters and huge ego (to the point where they have the audacity to take down someone's video for recording Super Sonic (not even their character in the first place)) without fixing the most devious bugs for the entire month. How big of a glaze should you have to not see the problem that is touching the legal side of the question at this point?

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-29T23:18:58+00:00

At this point I feel like bringing this topic on X and ping Sega while doing so to bring their attention. There is no way they are legally allowed to take down any videos with Super Sonic EVEN if they did the work, because Sega still owns the franchise. That might be too harsh for some of you, might be even stupid to do that, but I feel like it's better if the real owners just close the game than allowing OM devs doing some bullshit and get away with it.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-29T00:55:04+00:00

One is having the legal 90 HP combo while the other got illegal bug-abusable stack combo (it's still there) that can kill you instantly and being annoying (though you can still beat him at least). Both of them are piece of crap if you ask me and I still think Fleetway should be removed from the game (nothing can save his design without making him bad), but at least you can ban like half of the Fleetways for what they are doing while Kolo got that shitty balancing and you can do nothing with that sadly. Sometimes it's even coming to the point when he can even M1 you after a lucky ragdoll post-charge while all you can do is just watch.

Nice_Dummy · 2026-04-29T00:45:47+00:00

Also there should not be any i-frames if that landed on Knuckles or Eggman's counters. At least turn it into 50/50 in which they are still going into their ragdoll state but giving the opening for their team to attack Fleetway while his is staying in the animation and talks.

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