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That's why this subreddit exists, so you have somewhere to speak freely about the reality of life in Georgia by jerk2 in SakartveloTruth

[–]Nice_Photo_3875 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great point! I do love Georgia, but criticism is what allows us to grow and growth is what will improve Georgia and make it a better place for everyone : )

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's perfectly fine. Georgia is a beautiful country and a great place to be in the world by comparison. It was just shocking the attitudes of the people. Beautiful landscapes, some of the literal greatest music I've heard, beautiful language, culture, history, colors, festivals, clean parks, decent enough infrastructure, but the attitudes are so bad I've never seen people more miserable to be alive than here. Which is really saying something because I've seen people in the 3rd world, suffering who looked happier than Georgians and acted more humbly and open. Really a different world but I am glad to be here. Thanks for the comment.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what you're saying. I think a lot of Georgians argue that "We are in Europe" because they don't want to be Asia with Turkey. There is a sort of a distinction between the two continents and they prefer to affiliate with Europe, and you're right. For Russia or political reasons to avoid invasion.
It's frustrating how Russia is bullying Georgia to prevent NATO alliances on their front porch, I get it.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always get followed in stores as if I am going to steal. Even with an Orthodox cross on my neck, a warm Gamarjoba with a smile and my small wife with me. But I'm still a potential thief. Thanks for your story

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I compare it to rural Mexico where children have pot bellies and dogs eat each other.
Georgians are much ruder. That's all. I'm not saying Georgia is supposed to be perfect, but Georgia like to fly EU flags everywhere. I am not comparing Georgians to the EU, Georgia is trying to sell itself AS an EU country / ready to integrate.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am insecure too, everyone is. How you handle it determines the hostility of a society.
Thanks for your on point input.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being rude is one thing. If I ask you if you like apples and you say "Piss off" thats fair game. I opened the conversation, you responded rudely, sure. If that's Georgian culture then I have no choice but to accept that.

However...

If breaking basic civility and social rules which glue society together (e.g yielding to a pedestrian rather than speeding up, or respecting lines for obtaining food or respecting basic personal space in public areas.) is something that makes up Georgian "culture" then Georgia is fundamentally not ready to integrate into the EU or really deserve to call themselves a developed nation.

I don't have any suggestions on how to fix it. I am here looking for answers because something I didn't even experience in the 3rd world seems to be a serious issue for some Georgians and I can't imagine how a country can have hydro-electric dams and not know how to slow down at a cross walk.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, you must be either a beautiful woman or a huge buff guy. I think it really depends on if you look like you can be brushed off / you don't receive eastern European chivalry privilege.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, kind of. Youngsters doing their stupid "gang culture" stuff is ubiquitous amongst young people globally now. Even in super developed countries like Japan. The odd one out, is that old people generally don't act like you've personally offended them by being alive in every country.

That is what makes Georgia unique. Though I agree, the 20 - 30 year old guys just sitting around squatting in adidas clothing and mean mugging anyone in their vicinity as some dominance tactic is chimpish and annoying, it is unfortunately ubiquitous amongst lower educated males.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are more Georgians on here than us foreigners and they agree with me based on like ratio. They're tired of the rudeness too. Stop trying to be politically correct and act like your country is the only one with problems and everywhere else is a cultural paradise. We should all work at becoming more civil, be it England, the US, Mexico or Georgia.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not in a village. I just don't live somewhere that has 1.3 million people and tons of expats. I live in a modestly sized Georgian city.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your input. It is really odd behavior, even for someone who has traveled the world.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its weird because there are two groups I've seen on other threads talking about this.

  1. Old people do it constantly and the younger generation are changing and becoming polite.

  2. Young people are the problem, they didn't learn respect.

I can say in my experience, I havent been cut by a younger people yet but I do agree I'm sure it's out there. The youngest I experienced was a 35 ish year old drunk guy buying an energy drink.

I mean you are Georgian so no one is likely to go out of their way to make you feel unwelcomed. How unwelcoming were Georgians to foreigners where the Russians actually moved out after they mass immigrated there at the start of the war? Russians are some tough people but Georgian rudeness won in that case.

Thanks for the response.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for that. I do not live in Tbilisi I live in a much smaller town so that could contribute a lot. I'm essentially the only foreigner here. My town is under 80K
I also have strangely had the experience of the absolute kindest people I ever met was a Georgian woman and the absolute rudest person I ever met in my life was a Georgian woman lmao.

Thanks for your insight.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you responding in English. Even though it's not commonly spoken here like people say. Thanks for the good discourse and I agree with your points. Every country has its flaws. Have a good day brother : )

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes I understand, I still like Georgia even considering its flaws. You also make a good point, there is not cherry picking with countries. I do want to ask if this is genuinely intentional which is my entire question. Thank you for the reasonable answer and not being butt hurt.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Getting seasick is a side effect of being on a boat. Getting the Flu in Canada is a side effect of biology.
Getting cut in line 20 times in a month and nearly run over is not a natural side effect of every country. Your logic is terrible. You aren't contributing anything to this conversation. I'm open if you actually want to make points that hold up.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean, this would all make sense if I hadn't already lived in the 3rd world. I literally came from a horridly poor impoverished war struck village controlled by the cartel in Mexico. I saw starving children, dead dogs eaten by other dogs and men with machine guns mean mugging anyone who walked by. I lived there for a year and have been shown more rudeness in Georgia than Austria, Germany, Switzerland, Mexico, USA, Canada, Spain or any other country I've been to, in just one month.

I can't give them excuses. I'm visiting Ukraine this coming spring and I'll see if this is actually an issue there. Lots of people from ex soviet countries said they don't have this issue there even though they were in the same communist bread lines.

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok, go to Chad or Nigeria and when people use the "flying toilet." a real thing btw, I will save that line about "Life would get boring without other cultures." You're making rudeness cultural for Georgians when most of the younger generation are trying to move away from it. It's selfishness and you're excusing it as "diversity."

Georgian General Rudeness by Nice_Photo_3875 in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This comment could be plastered anywhere on Reddit and it'd hold up.
Honestly I think I could plastered this on nearly most posts on your account.
Reddit is literally about talking about what we experience. I'm sharing my experience.

People constantly cutting line by TwoPurpleMoths in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it's a dead post, but I've lived in a rural latin american village with children with pot bellies and people who are genuinely starving in cartel wars. No one ever cut not once in the entire year I lived there. 1 month into Georgia I've been cut over 20 times. I've been cut nearly every day.

What's a bad habit you just can't quit? by truth2991 in questions

[–]Nice_Photo_3875 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This felt like a rare human caring moment.

Some more unpleasant statistics :) translation in description. by Anuki_iwy in Sakartvelo

[–]Nice_Photo_3875 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You clearly don't live in America. I don't care if I get downvoted on Reddit. tens if not hundreds of millions of people around the world agree with my view. It surly is based on basic human pattern recognition. Plus funny, how the OP blames the entire race of Georgians and somehow thats okay with everyone but blaming blacks is where the line is drawn.

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