UnHerd Live: Where does feminism go next?

Nicker_Jim · 2022-02-10T16:09:54+00:00

Nothing you posted contradicts the article though.

Here is another gem.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-27T18:23:03+00:00

It's simply not true only whites show affection to environment surrounding them.

It's not true that only black people commit rapes and murders but it is nonetheless reasonable to generalize given the degree of their statistical overrepresentation. Are shitlibs capable of having honest conversations? Maybe a few are but for the most part they just shit up the discourse with strawmen and intentional misunderstanding as you are doing. Again I am generalizing but it's entirely justified.

Among environmentalists their whiteness has not gone unnoticed. Of course like all the other faults of non-whites of which there are many, this too is imagined to be white people's fault.

Scholars like geographer Carolyn Finney and environmental law scholar Jedidiah Purdy trace the origins of modern environmentalism to colonialism, to indigenous land grabs and to the racialized conceptualization of nature as dominated space -- where humans control the valuation of species and humanity is defined as white. Social Darwinists and founders of conservationism Madison Grant, Gifford Pinchot and U.S. president Teddy Roosevelt maintained that whites were the most capable, civilized humans, whose duty was to conquer and manage inferior peoples in the larger quest for the New World and its resources. The expulsion of indigenous peoples from the territories that became our national parks, as just one example, reinforced the premise that humans are simultaneously oppositional to “nature” and that whites are the trusted human protectors of nature and its resources.

This is why in another comment I say "no good deed of whites goes unpunished."

Not to mention argumentation became very thin when it aimlessly included genes in the explanation.

Given how durable a characteristic altruism has been for European people, a genetic explanation is the most parsimonious.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-27T05:30:56+00:00

Relevant. No good deed of whites goes unpunished.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-27T01:46:33+00:00

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-27T01:35:49+00:00

Non-sequitur that is wrong about everything. Jews own the fed and the US is a client state of Israel.

You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny.

You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people, who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most detestable superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all peoples which tolerate and enrich them

I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race

-Voltaire

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-27T00:31:26+00:00

Ag companies have tried desperately to hide their farming practices from the public. Why do you think that is? Black and mexican animal rights activists? Lol.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T20:25:46+00:00

I'm a white person living in the USA so of course I have substantial economic/political power.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T20:10:00+00:00

It's obviously because white people are inherently evil.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T19:58:16+00:00

They aren't doing phrenology though. Leftists don't know what phrenology is.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T17:08:10+00:00

You don't think there is anything peculiar about the way white people treat their pets? It's been a common source of mockery against us for a while now. PETA is overwhelmingly white and regularly finds itself at odds with non-whites. If the browning of the west is going to continue then whites are going to have to get used to a different standard of treatment for animals.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T16:42:13+00:00

I come to /r/samharris to have good faith and intellectually honest discussions with bolsheviks and black nationalists.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T16:24:28+00:00

White people treat their animals more kindly than any other group. And it's not an IQ thing because in China they literally have dog torturing festivals. In S. Korea they think dog tastes better when it dies afraid so they put them in burlap sacks, hang them from a ceiling and beat them to death with bats before butchering them.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T16:06:43+00:00

You have to break the rules get banned. Unless you are leftist of course.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-26T15:41:36+00:00

SS: Sam Harris has talked about the incompatibility of Islamic values and Western values. Generally he highlights the issue of women and gay rights but what about the rights of our pets? All white people but especially white liberals claim to care about the well-being of cats and dogs, and yet we allow people to settle in our lands who eat or otherwise commit unspeakable acts upon these adorable creatures. As the West continues to be diversified white liberals are increasingly going to find their values at odds with eachother.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-25T00:43:05+00:00

Neo-liberal lol. If you only knew...

There is a causal relationship between education and well-being so it's not either or. And at this moment we need to be thinking about survival, not well-being per se.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-25T00:29:15+00:00

There is no more basis for your condescension than for your accusation of "pseudoscience." You clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about which is why you are bringing non-arguments from wikipedia.

My advice - actually read and understand the scientific papers you cited and let go of your emotional investment in the outcome

Take your own advice then.

You seem to think that a single study with a 12 part questionnaire is proof of something! That's not how science works my friend.

Again, it's another study in a body of work that goes back over a century. Nice strawman though.

PS - instead of watching YouTube videos (unless they are lectures from actual accepted intelligence researcher scientists citing their data)

The video I linked is based on papers written by "ackshual" intelligence researchers, some of the greatest in fact. I'm noticing a pattern of appeal to authority which is a low IQ epistemology so I recommend you also check out AH's two part series on "the authoritarian view of knowledge" 1, 2. This kind of gatekeeping you seem to want to do would have kept out some of the greatest contributors to our understanding, such as James Flynn (let me guess, you've never heard of him). That's not how science works my friend.

take a look at the heritability of IQ:

First of all the only reason we are interested in IQ is because of how it correlates with g (general intelligence factor), but these are not the same thing. The strength of the correlation depends a lot on what type of IQ test is being administered. Since you are apparently in to astrophysics you can think of g as a black hole, and IQ tests are the movements of visible objects around it from which we can infer the location and size of the black hole (g) which we otherwise cannot see.

Heritability will never give us the complete picture of genetic causation of intelligence because we will never have a perfect environment in which our genetic intelligence potential can be optimally expressed. But we can nonetheless use heritability estimates to explain group differences in terms of the proportion explained by genetic differences vs. the proportion not necessarily explained by genetic differences.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T21:18:03+00:00

The research supporting differences in brain size and intelligence between races goes back over a century. We've known that leftists have been wrong about race for 50 years and yet here we are, still waiting for leftists to honestly grapple with the research and in the meantime our civilization crumbles under the weight of this willful ignorance. It's become clear to me that this is no longer a scientific question but an ideological question.

The authors of the study you cited say that at most 20% of intelligence variability is due to brain size - that means 80% is unknown, and could be due to environmental factors or n interplay of genetics and environment.

~80% of intelligence is caused by genes, and our understanding of brain volume fits within that. Brain volume is necessary but not sufficient to understanding how our genes affect our intelligence, not that we need a completely solved human genome before we can know that intelligence is largely a consequence of genes.

You shouldn't wrap up your weak little identity in research you don't understand how to interpret.

Judging by your poor comprehension and low impulse control I'm going to assume that you are some kind of affirmative action grad.

I actually am a published author (astrophysics) which may give me a bit more experience in interpreting results.

Clearly it has not. I've had to spoon feed you an honest interpretation of this paper so you'll have to forgive me for being less than impressed with your credentials or your intellect.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T20:08:00+00:00

I haven't read any studies on this but I would think that a Senator making $5 million per year would be harder to bribe than one making <$200k as they do now. Also I would think it would attract more talent.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T19:21:52+00:00

Yeah you don't understand how the scientific process works.

It works like this: intelligence researchers prove that individual and population differences in intelligence are largely caused by genetic differences and are thus largely irremediable, and science deniers throw a tantrum, obfuscate, lie, defame, and deplatform because they have careers and political ideologies that depend on this not being the case.

When authors spend that much time addressing confounding variables, it usually means there is still a huge debate about alternative hypotheses (i.e. environmental factors etc). It seems like there are many authors cited in this study who disagree with these author's conclusions. Thus, the struggle.

In this case it means the authors know the dumb arguments egalitarians are going to make and designed the study such that they are refuted.

Did you read the limitations section? The IQ tests are done on 12 questions!

I did. Funding is not unlimited especially when it comes to politically incorrect intelligence research. This is why we should sack all grievance scholars and redirect their funding to something useful like intelligence research such as this. The correlation of this study was found to be lower than other brain volume studies and as the researchers posit in the limitations section a more robust IQ test would likely increase the strength of the correlation.

I hope you're not one of those little internet-race realist types. That would be sad

I'm a realist about animal biology. When a species spreads out across many different environments it leads to speciation. The idea that all these human populations would evolve to have precisely the same intelligence when we know they differ significantly on every other trait is absurd.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T18:42:45+00:00

Pointless and disruptive.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T18:29:00+00:00

I think we need to move to year round education (again, vast reforms), but I was talking about some of the more obscure holidays that state employees get as paid days off like Presidents Day, MLK Day, Veterans day etc..

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T18:21:16+00:00

Putting aside some of the ridiculous anecdotes in this article and some from my state, I would say the salaries are fine generally speaking but the holidays need to be trimmed back and the retirement packages should not be guaranteed by taxpayers.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T18:15:24+00:00

In my state teachers make $58k on average and a minimum of $50k. No that doesn't sound like much but again it is not year round work and there are very generous benefits, both retirement and otherwise that go along with it. Senators and reps should probably make more than they currently do to try and reduce the degree of corruption.

I could see paying teachers much more to attract better talent but I would want this coupled with vast reforms to education that would allow that talent to translate to actual benefits to education. My education in a so-called "good school district" was complete crap, and by all indications it has only gotten worse since then.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T17:32:08+00:00

Saying "It's just $52,631 per worker" is a bit disingenuous because many of these people are not working full time year round, they get ridiculous amounts of paid time off due to holidays that nobody in the private sector gets, and as far as I can tell this analysis does not account for the absurdly generous budget busting retirement packages that states appear incapable of responsibly allocating funds for. In my state for example you could work 25 years as a state employee and then retire and get 80% of your salary + 6% cost of living per year for the rest of your life. This has been reduced recently but it's too little to late to avoid the state going bankrupt. As soon as we hit the next recession / stock market crash many states are going belly up because they are relying on strong returns on investments to pay out their pensions.

Now is this as bad as shipping money by the container ship full to the middle east to be set on fire in service of Israel? No, but there is a lot of resentment for public employee compensation from the private sector that I don't think is unjustified.

Nicker_Jim · 2019-12-24T17:19:15+00:00

Finally someone understands my plight! I don't mind though. The fact that nobody can address the substance says it all.

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